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I don't think they can just go best available QB...they need to get "their guy"...if there are 3 QBs between Mayfield/Allen/Darnold/Jackson that they are comfortable with being "their guy" than can do Barkley at #1...but the bottom-line is no matter how good Barkley is the Browns are not gonna move forward until they solve their long-term QB issue...they can not get cute...they need to hit on the QB...
I think its possible it could take QB off the board in round 1 in general. Taylor is a pretty big get. If they just wanted a bridge QB, they could have brought McCown back, or maybe ponied up for Bradford.
I'd be really surprised if the Eagles dealt Foles. If they do, it likely won't be until training camp I'd guess.
Waaaay too rich a pick for him. Even if he weren't on the last year of his deal.
I know the Browns have a lot of draft capital, but don't just throw it away. 65 is a prime pick and with the money he was owed, seems they could have gotten him much cheaper.
I like getting TT and booting Kiser who is always going to be a turnover machine. I don't care for the price much but definitely wouldn't say they screwed up today.
I'd take kizer on rookie deal over Taylor no question. Neither are the future. Neither knows how to read coverage or how to throw with anticipation. Kizer will try to make something out of nothing. Tyrod won't throw the ball unless the wr is running wide open. I'd have went mccown reunion.
He won’t throw the ball except to wide open guys. No anticipation or tight window throws. His stats look better than watching him play.
Most underrated QB in the NFL. Solid B, maybe even B+ starter, just does it differently than most.
He is definitely a humble guy that is incredibly professional and a great team leader. He is also maligned unfairly at times. He is an elite QB in some areas...BUT...he also has significant limitations in other areas as well.
Browns are still drafting a QB. Tyrod will get them a few wins which will be more than the browns have had in years.
Do you think they are getting one with their first 2 picks?
We’ll see. I would hope they do but I could see them doing any number of things. They could easily trade back, take defense with both picks, take barkley and Nelson, take def and barkley, trade back at both spots. If Denver misses out on cousins, do they go all in for their pick of qbs? Would cle be in terrible shape if they did any of the above? They could move back from 1 and pick up a 2019 1st and probably more, they could move back from 4 and pick up another and more. I know at some point you have to field a team to win, but I were a browns fan and they went this route and picked at say 5 and 11 (that ms Arizona I think) and pick up more early 2nds and picks for next year, they still add talent and have more ammo to load up in talent, much like the harbaugh led 49ers we’re doing before the divorce. I know this isn’t a dynasty league, but you can parlay those blue chip picks into more and more down the road you end up in good shape, theoretically. I suppose if we see Tyrod get an extension in the next week or two we will have a signal towards what they do in the draft.
I know the browns have a ton of picks - and I defended them in the Landry thread for that reason- but this deal makes no sense. Why give a valuable pick for a below average QB when they could have just signed a bridge QB in fee agency?
Having two top 4 picks and coming away with Tyrod Taylor as your franchise QB would fall in line with how they did things in the past - also know as “the Browns being the Browns”. I would hope Dorsey is better than that.
That's the part that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. There are going to be quite a few average-ish QBs in free agency, (and would have probably included Taylor in a week), that they could have grabbed as bridge QBs and given up no draft picks for.
They don't think McCarron or Taylor are franchise QBs. They traded a 3rd to get a starter on a 1-year deal. What is worse, giving Mike Glennon 45m to start a couple games or giving up a 3rd to get Taylor on a cheap deal. If Taylor works out (by works out I mean they are 500 or a wild card team) they can franchise him next year, still cheaper than signing McCarron.
They don't want to compete in free agency because they are taking a rookie QB #1 and only needed a bridge who they don't have to extend or throw more money to than three or four other teams competing for their services in FA.
Tyrod Taylor IS an improvement over this:
I think the doesn't throw to WR's thing is a myth. He hasn't had WR's who have been able to stay healthy at any point. Watkins was putting up high end WR1 numbers down the stretch in 2015. Gordon/Landry/Coleman is BY FAR the best trio he's had.
