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5 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I think the Dems would be wise to run Amy Klobuchar for President.  She has moderate Democratic appeal, , is very smart, and likable.   I live in MN and most of the people here love her.  She has a much better chance of beating Trump than the too far left leaning candidates such as Harris, Sanders, Booker and Warren.

Folks, if JohnnyU and I actually agree on something I humbly suggest you also consider it.

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26 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I think the Dems would be wise to run Amy Klobuchar for President.  She has moderate Democratic appeal, , is very smart, and likable.   I live in MN and most of the people here love her.  She has a much better chance of beating Trump than the too far left leaning candidates such as Harris, Sanders, Booker and Warren.  While we're at it, she's a better choice than Beto also.

ETA:  As a Republican and if I had to be satisfied with a Democrat President, it would be Amy Klobuchar.

 

they'd all beat him, assuming he even runs.  but i agree, she's my favorite right now.

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16 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I think the Dems would be wise to run Amy Klobuchar for President.  She has moderate Democratic appeal, , is very smart, and likable.   I live in MN and most of the people here love her.  She has a much better chance of beating Trump than the too far left leaning candidates such as Harris, Sanders, Booker and Warren.  While we're at it, she's a better choice than Beto also.

ETA:  As a Republican and if I had to be satisfied with a Democrat President, it would be Amy Klobuchar.

She seems intelligent and a very nice person, but as I mentioned in another thread, she is pretty much lacking in charisma. I find her rather colorless (so to speak). If she would be the nominee I have trouble seeing Democrats getting that fired up over her, outside of the fact that she is not Trump. I don't think she would generate the enthusiasm a candidate like Beto would (or perhaps Harris).

I could see Beto generating excitement among younger people similar to what John Kennedy did in 1960. I have talked to people who were young Democrats then, and they viewed JFK as one of them and candidate of generational change and he inspired hope in them for the future and drove them to the polls. It remains to be seen in Beto can pull off that trick as he is relatively untested on the national stage (not sure how much to count his race/campaign against Cruz).  

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33 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I think the Dems would be wise to run Amy Klobuchar for President.  She has moderate Democratic appeal, , is very smart, and likable.   I live in MN and most of the people here love her.  She has a much better chance of beating Trump than the too far left leaning candidates such as Harris, Sanders, Booker and Warren.  While we're at it, she's a better choice than Beto also.

ETA:  As a Republican and if I had to be satisfied with a Democrat President, it would be Amy Klobuchar.

 

I am sure Tim will love her.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/joe-biden-i-m-most-qualified-person-country-be-president-n943411

Joe Biden: 'I'm the most qualified person in the country to be president'

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday said his decision on whether to enter the 2020 presidential race will rest on a whether he and his family are "ready," even as he argued that his strengths as a potential candidate far outweigh any perceived liabilities.

Biden’s comments came during a brief tour promoting the paperback release of his 2017 memoir, "Promise Me, Dad," in which he details how the death of his eldest son, Beau, from brain cancer kept him out of the 2016 presidential race.

"I think I’m the most qualified person in the country to be president. The issues that we face as a country today are the issues that I’ve worked on my whole life — the plight of the middle class and foreign policy," Biden told an audience in Montana, according to The Missoula Current. "But my family and I need to decide as a unit whether we’re ready — we do everything as a family."

Biden was asked about factors that may hurt him if he runs — his reputation for gaffes among them.

"I may be a gaffe machine, but my God, what a wonderful thing compared to a guy who can’t tell the truth," he said. "No one doubts what I say, the problem is I sometimes say all that I mean. The question is what kind of nation are we becoming?"

Biden said his decision would come in the next six weeks to two months, according to a CNN report, in line with the timeline he offered when discussing his plans on Election Day.

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Emails from top GOP officials reportedly hacked before midterms:

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The email accounts of four top National Republican Congressional Committee officials were surveilled for several months and the break-in was discovered in April.

 

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While there’s no official word on who was responsible, officials privately told the news site they believed it was a foreign agent.

“The NRCC can confirm that it was a victim of a cyber intrusion by an unknown entity. The cybersecurity of the Committee’s data is paramount, and upon learning of the intrusion, the NRCC immediately launched an internal investigation and notified the FBI, which is now investigating the matter,” said Ian Prior, a former Justice Department official now employed by Mercury Public Affairs, the outside firm the NRCC hired to handle the hack.

Mattis, just over this last week, said the Russians were still actively meddling about during the midterms.

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3 hours ago, squistion said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/joe-biden-i-m-most-qualified-person-country-be-president-n943411

Joe Biden: 'I'm the most qualified person in the country to be president'

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday said his decision on whether to enter the 2020 presidential race will rest on a whether he and his family are "ready," even as he argued that his strengths as a potential candidate far outweigh any perceived liabilities.

Biden’s comments came during a brief tour promoting the paperback release of his 2017 memoir, "Promise Me, Dad," in which he details how the death of his eldest son, Beau, from brain cancer kept him out of the 2016 presidential race.

"I think I’m the most qualified person in the country to be president. The issues that we face as a country today are the issues that I’ve worked on my whole life — the plight of the middle class and foreign policy," Biden told an audience in Montana, according to The Missoula Current. "But my family and I need to decide as a unit whether we’re ready — we do everything as a family."

Biden was asked about factors that may hurt him if he runs — his reputation for gaffes among them.

"I may be a gaffe machine, but my God, what a wonderful thing compared to a guy who can’t tell the truth," he said. "No one doubts what I say, the problem is I sometimes say all that I mean. The question is what kind of nation are we becoming?"

Biden said his decision would come in the next six weeks to two months, according to a CNN report, in line with the timeline he offered when discussing his plans on Election Day.

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Thank's Joe, but you are probably on the bottom of people I will support in the Primary.  But I would vote for him in a general against Trump.

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On 11/30/2018 at 11:34 AM, JohnnyU said:

I think the Dems would be wise to run Amy Klobuchar for President.  She has moderate Democratic appeal, , is very smart, and likable.   I live in MN and most of the people here love her.  She has a much better chance of beating Trump than the too far left leaning candidates such as Harris, Sanders, Booker and Warren.  While we're at it, she's a better choice than Beto also.

ETA:  As a Republican and if I had to be satisfied with a Democrat President, it would be Amy Klobuchar.

 

She would be a solid, non-controversial choice.   Exactly what they need to bring in independents and anti-Trump Republicans.   I disagree with liberals that want to head the party in a more progressive direction with a presidential candidate.   Get the presidency so you can get work done...let the house and senate set the direction of the country's legislation.  

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1 hour ago, -fish- said:

She would be a solid, non-controversial choice.   Exactly what they need to bring in independents and anti-Trump Republicans.   I disagree with liberals that want to head the party in a more progressive direction with a presidential candidate.   Get the presidency so you can get work done...let the house and senate set the direction of the country's legislation.  

I don't necessarily like it, but I'm onboard with this.  Not necessarily Klobuchar but the overall idea.

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Beto O'Rourke, weighing whether to mount a 2020 presidential bid, met recently with ­Barack Obama at his post-presidency offices in Washington.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/beto-orourke-met-with-barack-obama-as-he-ponders-a-2020-presidential-campaign/2018/12/04/fa895cc8-f7fb-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html?utm_term=.625e13229a6f

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I'm not tied in to the Democrat circles ..... do ya'll see the 2020 nomination for Democrats being like 2016 was for Republicans, 10-12 or more candidates running ?

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On 11/30/2018 at 1:34 PM, JohnnyU said:

 

ETA:  As a Republican and if I had to be satisfied with a Democrat President, it would be Amy Klobuchar.

 

Assuming your vote mattered (it wouldn't here in MN) and it was a race between Klobuchar and Trump, who would you vote for? Would it matter if it appeared that democrats would also take over senate control and hold the house?

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3 hours ago, Stealthycat said:

I'm not tied in to the Democrat circles ..... do ya'll see the 2020 nomination for Democrats being like 2016 was for Republicans, 10-12 or more candidates running ?

It all depends who runs and how many stupid decisions the DNC makes.  Beto, Biden and Sanders all have the financial backing and enough voter support to make bids through the convention.   If they don't all run, it opens up a path for Klobuchar, Booker, Harris, Inslee, or others.   You'll probably have 8-10 serious candidates through Iowa and New Hampshire, but money starts running dry pretty quickly if the more well-organized candidates have engaged their fund-raising machines and you're just trying to gain name recognition.   

 

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3 hours ago, the rover said:

It all depends who runs and how many stupid decisions the DNC makes.  Beto, Biden and Sanders all have the financial backing and enough voter support to make bids through the convention.   If they don't all run, it opens up a path for Klobuchar, Booker, Harris, Inslee, or others.   You'll probably have 8-10 serious candidates through Iowa and New Hampshire, but money starts running dry pretty quickly if the more well-organized candidates have engaged their fund-raising machines and you're just trying to gain name recognition.   

 

reason I ask

Trump would have never made it beyond primaries had it not been for the fact so many were running ... instead of needing 40% to stay in , he only needed 23% or whatever right ?

just curious if that perfect combination that led to Trump being the nominee could replicate for the Democrats in 2020

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7 hours ago, Stealthycat said:

reason I ask

Trump would have never made it beyond primaries had it not been for the fact so many were running ... instead of needing 40% to stay in , he only needed 23% or whatever right ?

just curious if that perfect combination that led to Trump being the nominee could replicate for the Democrats in 2020

Regardless of how many candidates run, the Democrats won’t end up with s nationalist, racist, sexist, isolationist candidate.   So no.

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On 11/30/2018 at 2:02 PM, squistion said:

She seems intelligent and a very nice person, but as I mentioned in another thread, she is pretty much lacking in charisma. I find her rather colorless (so to speak). If she would be the nominee I have trouble seeing Democrats getting that fired up over her, outside of the fact that she is not Trump. I don't think she would generate the enthusiasm a candidate like Beto would (or perhaps Harris).

I could see Beto generating excitement among younger people similar to what John Kennedy did in 1960. I have talked to people who were young Democrats then, and they viewed JFK as one of them and candidate of generational change and he inspired hope in them for the future and drove them to the polls. It remains to be seen in Beto can pull off that trick as he is relatively untested on the national stage (not sure how much to count his race/campaign against Cruz).  

I disagree with you on saying she lacks charisma. I think she is very charming. I think she hit it out of the park at the Kavanaugh hearing.  I am prolife and voted GOP for every President since Ford (except for Trump) but would vote for Kloubacher over Trump. If it's Warren or Sanders I may have to just write in another candidate. The further to the left the candidate is the more likely many voters in the nation's heartland (even those who  can't stand Trump) will still vote for him. It would be deja vu 2016. Their thinking will be Trump is awful, but I will not vote for a progressive liberal. I live in conservative rural Minnesota and realize my opposition to Trump is absolutely an anomaly to this day. 

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I heard that a good looking ficus plant may run as an independent which could really throw a wrench into these predictions. Depending who the Dems throw out there, I might be inclined to lean ficus over either major party’s nominee.

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4 hours ago, lazyike said:

I disagree with you on saying she lacks charisma. I think she is very charming. I think she hit it out of the park at the Kavanaugh hearing.  I am prolife and voted GOP for every President since Ford (except for Trump) but would vote for Kloubacher over Trump. If it's Warren or Sanders I may have to just write in another candidate. The further to the left the candidate is the more likely many voters in the nation's heartland (even those who  can't stand Trump) will still vote for him. It would be deja vu 2016. Their thinking will be Trump is awful, but I will not vote for a progressive liberal. I live in conservative rural Minnesota and realize my opposition to Trump is absolutely an anomaly to this day. 

Being charming or personable is not the same as having charisma or being charismatic. JFK had it. Reagan had it. It is the quality of being able to light up a room when you enter it. I am sure I would find her very likable if I were to meet her, but charismatic, she is not IMO.

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There’s going to be a lot of people here. 

One of the theories behind Trump’s rise in 2015 is that when you have this many people running with no clear front runner, it’s much easier for an extreme or wild candidate to take over the race. We’re going to find out, in real time, if there’s anything to this. 

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There are a couple of paths to the presidency against Trump. One is to fire up young people and get them to vote (Beto path). The other is to get the 30% of people in the middle that despise Trump to vote against him (Klobuchar path).

I am unsure which has the greater chance of success. I like the Klobuchar as president with a Beto as vice personally. 

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3 minutes ago, the moops said:

There are a couple of paths to the presidency against Trump. One is to fire up young people and get them to vote (Beto path). The other is to get the 30% of people in the middle that despise Trump to vote against him (Klobuchar path).

I am unsure which has the greater chance of success. I like the Klobuchar as president with a Beto as vice personally. 

More important than the progressive vs moderate divide: we need a Reagan. In other words, we need someone charismatic with a positive, optimistic outlook. This can’t be all about how awful Trump is; it has to be about a future vision of America that makes people feel good. 

The easy to defeat Trump is to counter his negativity with positivity. If Beto can do that, perhaps he is the guy; we’ll see. 

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34 minutes ago, squistion said:

Being charming or personable is not the same as having charisma or being charismatic. JFK had it. Reagan had it. It is the quality of being able to light up a room when you enter it. I am sure I would find her very likable if I were to meet her, but charismatic, she is not IMO.

 

I'll go with this dictionary's version. 

char·is·mat·ic

adjective

1.

exercising a compelling charm that inspires devotion in others.

"a charismatic leader"

synonyms:charming, fascinating, strong in character

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2 minutes ago, lazyike said:

char·is·mat·ic

adjective

1.

exercising a compelling charm that inspires devotion in others.

"a charismatic leader"

synonyms:charming, fascinating, strong in character

Kloubacher is fascinating? Okie Dokie Pokie.

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3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Kloubacher is fascinating? Okie Dokie Pokie.

One  synomyn of charismatic is charming. I get your point but can we really say any human is fascinating? 

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I’ll support Kloubacher in a heartbeat if she is the nominee, but I’m not sure running another white female non-charismatic policy wonk is the right strategy.  She obviously doesn’t have the long term baggage Hillary had, but is there any doubt that the FoxRush machine will turn Kloubacher into a socialist psychopath before Nov 2020? 

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11 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said:

I’ll support Kloubacher in a heartbeat if she is the nominee, but I’m not sure running another white female non-charismatic policy wonk is the right strategy.  She obviously doesn’t have the long term baggage Hillary had, but is there any doubt that the FoxRush machine will turn Kloubacher into a socialist psychopath before Nov 2020? 

The right wing media will try to turn any Democratic nominee into a monster.  The question is how believable that portrayal will be.  Lots of people were predisposed to think the worst of Hillary.  I'm not that knowledgeable about Klobuchar but it seems like it might be harder for them to demonize her.

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3 hours ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

The right wing media will try to turn any Democratic nominee into a monster.  The question is how believable that portrayal will be.  Lots of people were predisposed to think the worst of Hillary.  I'm not that knowledgeable about Klobuchar but it seems like it might be harder for them to demonize her.

When I'm doing election math in my head (yes, I have no life), I sometimes wonder how many of those third party votes in '16 were strictly "anybody but Hilary" votes. And I wonder how many of those voters could come back to the Dems with another candidate who hasn't been ripped apart by Fox and Donald for the last decade. Because that group could be a big part of the difference in '20.

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4 hours ago, tommyGunZ said:

I’ll support Kloubacher in a heartbeat if she is the nominee, but I’m not sure running another white female non-charismatic policy wonk is the right strategy.  She obviously doesn’t have the long term baggage Hillary had, but is there any doubt that the FoxRush machine will turn Kloubacher into a socialist psychopath before Nov 2020? 

Charismatic can mean a lot of things. Klobuchar is not charismatic in the sense of giving rousing speeches like Obama or inspiring a movement like Bernie, but she's charismatic in the sense that everyone who gets to know her seems to really like her, especially voters. She has what can only be described as "midwestern charm." The Marge Gunderson of politics. America gets to know its presidential candidates pretty well during a campaign, so you would think her charisma in that sense would come through.

I worry a little about her ability to inspire young voters and other irregular voters, which the Dems need, but embracing a couple popular progressive policies like forgiving student loan debt seems like it would do it. It's not like Sanders is an eloquent speaker or a magnetic personality (unless you're a Jew nostalgic for your grandfather). His ideas made him popular.

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28 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

Charismatic can mean a lot of things. Klobuchar is not charismatic in the sense of giving rousing speeches like Obama or inspiring a movement like Bernie, but she's charismatic in the sense that everyone who gets to know her seems to really like her, especially voters. She has what can only be described as "midwestern charm." The Marge Gunderson of politics. America gets to know its presidential candidates pretty well during a campaign, so you would think her charisma in that sense would come through.

I worry a little about her ability to inspire young voters and other irregular voters, which the Dems need, but embracing a couple popular progressive policies like forgiving student loan debt seems like it would do it. It's not like Sanders is an eloquent speaker or a magnetic personality (unless you're a Jew nostalgic for your grandfather). His ideas made him popular.

I think she'd make a very good President. But I can't imagine her sticking out in a crowded primary. That will be her main issue.

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1 minute ago, timschochet said:

I think she'd make a very good President. But I can't imagine her sticking out in a crowded primary. That will be her main issue.

Yup, I agree.  Great general election candidate, but the path to the nomination is steep. Her best bet is probably to push like hell in Iowa because it's similar to her home state in a lot of ways, and hope for a win that moves her to the forefront. Forget about New Hampshire for now.

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29 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

 It's not like Sanders is an eloquent speaker or a magnetic personality (unless you're a Jew nostalgic for your grandfather). His ideas made him popular.

They also make him unpopular.

I write this with trepidation, knowing the blowback it's probably going to get me from progressives: we cannot afford to have anyone on the ticket who calls themselves a Democratic socialist. Yes, I am well aware how popular the specific ideas of democratic socialism have become in this country. I am aware how popular Bernie's ideas are, especially among the base. 

But the problem is not the ideas, it's the word "socialist." The American public at large isn't ready for it, and may never be ready for it. The possibility of a self-declared socialist, Democratic or otherwise, as President will I fear swing the center back to Trump, and give him his best shot of winning re-election.

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It's sounds like Joe Biden wants to run.

if Obama came out relatively early and endorsed Biden, would that seal the deal for him? I think it might.

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Just now, timschochet said:

They also make him unpopular.

I write this with trepidation, knowing the blowback it's probably going to get me from progressives: we cannot afford to have anyone on the ticket who calls themselves a Democratic socialist. Yes, I am well aware how popular the specific ideas of democratic socialism have become in this country. I am aware how popular Bernie's ideas are, especially among the base. 

But the problem is not the ideas, it's the word "socialist." The American public at large isn't ready for it, and may never be ready for it. The possibility of a self-declared socialist, Democratic or otherwise, as President will I fear swing the center back to Trump, and give him his best shot of winning re-election.

I don't think this is gonna be an issue. Sanders is the only one as far as I know, and I think there's a lot of resentment of him among many Democrats left over from 2016, and also some resentment of the fact that he refuses to actually join the party. 

Also, while he's obviously far left on virtually every issue, he's a bit out of step with the current progressive movement on two of the main issues these days, gun control and immigration. Also the draw of Sanders in 2016 was that he was able to capture energy and enthusiasm that Clinton couldn't because he brought new ideas to the table after 8 years of Obama. That dynamic won't be in play in 2020.

And before anyone comes after me- I like him and would enthusiastically support him if he was the nominee and I think he'd be a great candidate to defeat Trump, even with the "socialism" tag.  This is just how I see it going.

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3 hours ago, timschochet said:

It's sounds like Joe Biden wants to run.

if Obama came out relatively early and endorsed Biden, would that seal the deal for him? I think it might.

A Biden/Obama ticket would win.  

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Sanders really shouldn’t run. He’s too old and he already lost to Hillary. That’s disqualifying. He did better than expected in the 2016 primary — mainly because his opponent was rather unpopular, IMO — but the fact that he couldn’t win in 2016’s sparse field means that he should have no chance in what ought to be 2020’s exceptionally robust field.

Also, Biden should go the way of Avenatti, and Warren should just keep being a Senator.

Leave the primary race to Harris, Booker, O’Rourke, Klobuchar, maybe Gillibrand, maybe Bloomberg, and obviously Dwayne Johnson. That’s enough for now.

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The Dems should be wary of what happened to the GOP in 16, which is too many candidates bled out the quality and ended up with a complete #######. Yes Trump won but he was lucky in the Dem draw too. Some pleasant middle ground between the GOP pellmell and the Dem preannointed candidate would be good. People complain about party machinations but I think some is needed here to keep the dwarves out.

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1 hour ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

Sanders really shouldn’t run. He’s too old and he already lost to Hillary. That’s disqualifying. He did better than expected in the 2016 primary — mainly because his opponent was rather unpopular, IMO — but the fact that he couldn’t win in 2016’s sparse field means that he should have no chance in what ought to be 2020’s exceptionally robust field.

Also, Biden should go the way of Avenatti, and Warren should just keep being a Senator.

Leave the primary race to Harris, Booker, O’Rourke, Klobuchar, maybe Gillibrand, maybe Bloomberg, and obviously Dwayne Johnson. That’s enough for now.

I agree with his stance on candy #####, but what if he turns heel?

I feel the same about Sanders, for pretty much the same reasons you stated above. What are your thoughts on Adam Schiff? I’ve been pretty impressed with him over the last couple of years. 

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9 minutes ago, The Football Freak said:

What are your thoughts on Adam Schiff? I’ve been pretty impressed with him over the last couple of years. 

I like Schiff, but I don’t think he has a shot in this field. It’s pretty hard to go from the House directly to the White House. (I would tell him to run for Senate or Governor first, but that’s pretty tough in California ... although not tougher than running for President.)

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On 12/4/2018 at 8:34 AM, squistion said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/joe-biden-i-m-most-qualified-person-country-be-president-n943411

Joe Biden: 'I'm the most qualified person in the country to be president'

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday said his decision on whether to enter the 2020 presidential race will rest on a whether he and his family are "ready," even as he argued that his strengths as a potential candidate far outweigh any perceived liabilities.

Biden’s comments came during a brief tour promoting the paperback release of his 2017 memoir, "Promise Me, Dad," in which he details how the death of his eldest son, Beau, from brain cancer kept him out of the 2016 presidential race.

"I think I’m the most qualified person in the country to be president. The issues that we face as a country today are the issues that I’ve worked on my whole life — the plight of the middle class and foreign policy," Biden told an audience in Montana, according to The Missoula Current. "But my family and I need to decide as a unit whether we’re ready — we do everything as a family."

Biden was asked about factors that may hurt him if he runs — his reputation for gaffes among them.

"I may be a gaffe machine, but my God, what a wonderful thing compared to a guy who can’t tell the truth," he said. "No one doubts what I say, the problem is I sometimes say all that I mean. The question is what kind of nation are we becoming?"

Biden said his decision would come in the next six weeks to two months, according to a CNN report, in line with the timeline he offered when discussing his plans on Election Day.

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Lol at this, he could not step up to the plate last time, need someone new 

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17 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

Sanders really shouldn’t run. He’s too old and he already lost to Hillary. That’s disqualifying. He did better than expected in the 2016 primary — mainly because his opponent was rather unpopular, IMO — but the fact that he couldn’t win in 2016’s sparse field means that he should have no chance in what ought to be 2020’s exceptionally robust field.

Also, Biden should go the way of Avenatti, and Warren should just keep being a Senator.

Leave the primary race to Harris, Booker, O’Rourke, Klobuchar, maybe Gillibrand, maybe Bloomberg, and obviously Dwayne Johnson. That’s enough for now.

Sanders is too old but Bloomberg is not?

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3 minutes ago, Marauder said:

Sanders is too old but Bloomberg is not?

We can also add Maurile's take on Schitt, that he shouldn't run because it is hard to go directly from the House to the White House, yet he is advocating for a Beto run

:)

 

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21 minutes ago, the moops said:

We can also add Maurile's take on Schitt, that he shouldn't run because it is hard to go directly from the House to the White House, yet he is advocating for a Beto run

:)

I hope that was an unfortunate typo on your part.

 

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1 hour ago, the moops said:

We can also add Maurile's take on Schitt, that he shouldn't run because it is hard to go directly from the House to the White House, yet he is advocating for a Beto run

Yeah, I think Beto may be able to do it. I don't think Schiff can.

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

I hope that was an unfortunate typo on your part.

 

I assumed he meant Roland Schitt, the mayor of Schitt's Creek from the TV show of the same name. A straight talker who would appeal to rural white voters, he's got a lot in common with our current president:
 

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Roland is highly attuned to the nuances of local politics, although he’ll rarely lift a finger to institute any actual change. He’s blunt, forthright, and will always tell you what’s on his mind, even if it didn't need to be heard.

He is always willing to go above-and-beyond for his family, so long as he gets to play video games and watch his Julia Roberts rom-coms.

 

 

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