Roseanne Barr tweets racist comment; her show is canceled (1 Viewer)

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

Caveat- I was never a fan. The wife was, but I thought the show was stupid (like most sitcoms) and I was never a fan of her either. I was slightly amused by her rendition of the National Anthem, particularly because of the outrage from overly pious people (a lot of the same types that claim to love her now.) During the years between her show and now, she showed up once in a while to make a new outrageous statement only to disappear into obscurity again. Which was fine with me.

So now she reappears with a second version of her show, and a new gimmick: being a Trump fan- and suddenly I’m seeing article after article where Roseanne is “representative of the new America!” She gets a ton of ratings and praise from Trump and Trump Jr.

I’m tired of this decade already. How soon until the next one?

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/03/28/roseanne-revival-is-a-wake-up-call-for-hollywood/amp/

John Podhoretz- the Roseanne revival is a wake up call for America.

This is the same message we’ve been hearing since 2016- we need to pay attention to the white working class in the heartland. But I’ve never understood what this means, exactly. Are we all supposed to become anti-free trade? Nativist? Anti-immigrant? Screw that.

Meanwhile Trump is gloating about Roseanne’s ratings.

SaintsInDome2006 · Mar 30, 2018

Roseanne Barr is a tv reality star who ran for president under an extremist platform, I seriously doubt anyone like that will have a political impact.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

SaintsInDome2006 said:
Roseanne Barr is a tv reality star who ran for president under an extremist platform, I seriously doubt anyone like that will have a political impact.

I had forgotten that she ran for President.

In any case, her high ratings from the other night are being touted by Trump supporters as proof that they still dominate the Midwest (where the show did very well).

Sinn Fein · Mar 30, 2018

Given how strongly people feel about respecting the National Anthem, I am surprised any of the Trumpers would watch her show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c

ETA - maybe its just when black people "disrespect" the anthem :shrug:

Hawkeye21 · Mar 30, 2018

Sinn Fein said:
Given how strongly people feel about respecting the National Anthem, I am surprised any of the Trumpers would watch her show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c

Time heals all wounds. They've long forgotten that as there have been plenty of other things to get mad at and boycott over the years. It won't be long before they're all huge NFL fans again too.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

Sinn Fein said:
Given how strongly people feel about respecting the National Anthem, I am surprised any of the Trumpers would watch her show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c

ETA - maybe its just when black people "disrespect" the anthem

No they were outraged at the time. I can clearly remember.

But now she’s a Trump fan so all is forgiven.

fatguyinalittlecoat · Mar 30, 2018

Maybe turn the outrage meter down a few notches Tim.

apalmer · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/03/28/roseanne-revival-is-a-wake-up-call-for-hollywood/amp/

John Podhoretz- the Roseanne revival is a wake up call for America.

This is the same message we’ve been hearing since 2016- we need to pay attention to the white working class in the heartland. But I’ve never understood what this means, exactly. Are we all supposed to become anti-free trade? Nativist? Anti-immigrant? Screw that.

Meanwhile Trump is gloating about Roseanne’s ratings.

Meh, it was curiosity/nostalgia from those who watched her 30 years ago. Personally, I love how Podhoretz stresses that the show "blew away" Will & Grace by 3 million viewers, but fails to notice that it had 4 million less viewers than the Stormy Daniels 60 Minutes interview. Maybe Trump should gloat about that.

JuniorNB · Mar 30, 2018

Trump failed to call a single parent of those killed in Parkland but quickly called Roseanne after her show aired to congratulate her on her ratings. You read that right.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Maybe turn the outrage meter down a few notches Tim.

Moi?

I’m not outraged. I’m annoyed. And not even so much at Roseanne herself. I don’t like her, but I suspect this is a highly successful attempt to self-promote.

I’m annoyed at these political pundits rushing into print and TV to lecture us on how this is yet again proof that we shouldn’t ignore “the heartland”.

fatguyinalittlecoat · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
Moi?

I’m not outraged. I’m annoyed. And not even so much at Roseanne herself. I don’t like her, but I suspect this is a highly successful attempt to self-promote.

I’m annoyed at these political pundits rushing into print and TV to lecture us on how this is yet again proof that we shouldn’t ignore “the heartland”.

OK, how about cutting back on the political punditry then?

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

Roseanne was always pretty loved. That’s how her show ran for nine seasons. It was groundbreaking and pretty incredible. Of course, the main character was a working class woman who was a die-hard Democrat and hated Republican policies. But Roseanne Barr always hated Hillary Clinton with a passion. And she’s always been fairly crazy. Not really a surprise she voted Trump. Somewhat of a surprise she’s gone quite as crazy as she has.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

fatguyinalittlecoat said:
OK, how about cutting back on the political punditry then?

If it bothers you to discuss it, don’t open the thread. It’s a free country (for now).

fatguyinalittlecoat · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
If it bothers you to discuss it, don’t open the thread. It’s a free country (for now).

If it bothers you to read/watch political pundits talk about Rosanne, don't read/watch them.

Hawkeye21 · Mar 30, 2018

I grew up watching Roseanne. My family really enjoyed it back then. My parents have always been more aligned in the middle politically, slightly to the left. I though about watching the show again just for nostalgia, nothing to do with political belief. I still can't stand Trump.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

fatguyinalittlecoat said:
If it bothers you to read/watch political pundits talk about Rosanne, don't read/watch them.

I enjoy discussing things that bother me. That’s why I’m in this forum.

Ditkaless Wonders · Mar 30, 2018

Never a fan of fat slovenly woman has contempt for life shtick. Never found her remotely amusing and feel the same for Melissa McCarthy, this generations Roseanne Barr.

I am disturbed that the President of the United States spends any time with his attention on her.

Me. I cannot take her even in limited doses in the commercials for her show. When one comes on, my hands, of their own volition it seems, automatically change the channel. I like that about my hands.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

Ditkaless Wonders said:
Never a fan of fat slovenly woman has contempt for life shtick. Never found her remotely amusing and feel the same for Melissa McCarthy, this generations Roseanne Barr.

I don’t know much about Melissa, but other than the fact that they’re both heavy women who are comedians, not seeing a real comparison.

Ditkaless Wonders · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
I don’t know much about Melissa, but other than the fact that they’re both heavy women who are comedians, not seeing a real comparison.

Their comedy is based on whining.

Grace Under Pressure · Mar 30, 2018

Didn't Trump and Roseanne have some notorious Twitter feud? And now she loves him, and her re-booted show is coming out, which happens to be a show that fits Trump's demographic perfectly? What a coincidence.

JuniorNB · Mar 30, 2018

Big fan of the old show. Won't watch this one

parasaurolophus · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
I enjoy discussing things that bother me. That’s why I’m in this forum.

I suppose after 17 billion posts you eventually would run out of actual things to discuss so we have moved into new made up outrage.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

Grace Under Pressure said:
Didn't Trump and Roseanne have some notorious Twitter feud?

I think you mean Rosie O Donnell

Grace Under Pressure · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
I think you mean Rosie O Donnell

They're not the same person?

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

parasaurolophus said:
I suppose after 17 billion posts you eventually would run out of actual things to discuss so we have moved into new made up outrage.

it’s all over the news. And I’m not outraged

bagger · Mar 30, 2018

Her show was always about white trash, not some model family to look up to. So of course that white trash fsmily is going to be pro trump in the show. She is smart enough to know that will resonate with a base of people who have not cut the cord streaming media and watch primarily network tv, which are not surprisingly also trump fans.

good for her. If people like the show it will stay on, if not it will be off the air. Like every other show. :shrug:

Politician Spock · Mar 30, 2018

timschochet said:
I enjoy discussing things that bother me. That’s why I’m in this forum.

That's weird. Pretty sure there's a psychological term for that. I was going to say it's masochist, but I'm not sure if your joy is sexual.

Ilov80s · Mar 30, 2018

Original show was funny and was indeed original. I’ll pass on the new episodes-not because of the Trump stuff- but because these reunions are never good.

Hawkeye21 · Mar 30, 2018

Politician Spock said:
That's weird. Pretty sure there's a psychological term for that. I was going to say it's masochist, but I'm not sure if your joy is sexual.

If people didn't enjoy discussing things that they like and dislike then forums would not exist. I can't imagine you've never discussed things that bother you on here.

Politician Spock · Mar 30, 2018

Hawkeye21 said:
If people didn't enjoy discussing things that they like and dislike then forums would not exist. I can't imagine you've never discussed things that bother you on here.

Of course I have.... but not because I get joy from it.

Hawkeye21 · Mar 30, 2018

Politician Spock said:
Of course I have.... but not because I get joy from it.

People have made careers off of discussing things that bother them. Look at half the crap that's on TV. I see no issue with it.

Politician Spock · Mar 30, 2018

Hawkeye21 said:
People have made careers off of discussing things that bother them. Look at half the crap that's on TV. I see no issue with it.

Or just look at Tim's post count.

timschochet · Mar 30, 2018

Politician Spock said:
Or just look at Tim's post count.

Fake news!

whoknew · Mar 30, 2018

I watched the first two episodes. It was a lot of back and forth between Roseanne and Jackie - fighting about politics. Jackie hates Trump.

It was fine. I didn't think it was particularly funny, but it was in character that Roseanne would vote for Trump.

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

Ditkaless Wonders said:
Never a fan of fat slovenly woman has contempt for life shtick. Never found her remotely amusing and feel the same for Melissa McCarthy, this generations Roseanne Barr.

I am disturbed that the President of the United States spends any time with his attention on her.

Me. I cannot take her even in limited doses in the commercials for her show. When one comes on my hands, of their own volition it seems, automatically change the channel. I like that about my hands.

I’m back and forth on Roseanne Conner (the character) but I’d watch John Goodman in just about anything.

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

whoknew said:
I watched the first two episodes. It was a lot of back and forth between Roseanne and Jackie - fighting about politics. Jackie hates Trump.

It was fine. I didn't think it was particularly funny, but it was in character that Roseanne would vote for Trump.

I’m not sure I agree. It’s in direct opposition to at least one seminal episode in the series - if for no other reason than Roseanne explicitly opposed Republican policies and, in particular, corporate tax incentives.

fatguyinalittlecoat · Mar 30, 2018

Henry Ford said:
I’m not sure I agree. It’s in direct opposition to at least one seminal episode in the series - if for no other reason than Roseanne explicitly opposed Republican policies and, in particular, corporate tax incentives.

I'm not seeing how that's inconsistent with a typical Trump voter.

whoknew · Mar 30, 2018

Henry Ford said:
I’m not sure I agree. It’s in direct opposition to at least one seminal episode in the series - if for no other reason than Roseanne explicitly opposed Republican policies and, in particular, corporate tax incentives.

Maybe you are right. But it seems like his populist, nativist rhetoric worked with people in Roseanne's economic status.

Ditkaless Wonders · Mar 30, 2018

Henry Ford said:
I’m back and forth on Roseanne Conner (the character) but I’d watch John Goodman in just about anything.

I liked him in Big Lebowski and in O Brother Where Art Thou, otherwise I can take him or leave him.

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

whoknew said:
Maybe you are right. But it seems like his populist, nativist rhetoric worked with people in Roseanne's economic status.

Not in Elgin, IL I don’t think.

squistion · Mar 30, 2018

fatguyinalittlecoat said:
OK, how about cutting back on the political punditry then?

Yes, let's cut back on political punditry in the Politics Sub Forum - that is completely out of place here.

wikkidpissah · Mar 30, 2018

bagger said:
Her show was always about white trash, not some model family to look up to. So of course that white trash fsmily is going to be pro trump in the show. She is smart enough to know that will resonate with a base of people who have not cut the cord streaming media and watch primarily network tv, which are not surprisingly also trump fans.

good for her. If people like the show it will stay on, if not it will be off the air. Like every other show.

Let's be clear - there's was nothing good to say about American govt when Trump came along. Obama had wasted a huge legacy & 8 years without reversing a single portion of Dubya's travesties and did no more than slop the cold porridge of ACA in our healthcare bowls and Congress has done nothing but profiteer since 9/11. The people most upset about Trump are largely as pathetic as those who elected President Drunkuncle. Wont watch the show because i wasnt a fan the 1st timne, but if Roseanne wants to explore what made this all possible, more power to her. It's not like we're delaying The Answer by attempting to understand how we got the President that America deserves.

Jackstraw · Mar 30, 2018

Ditkaless Wonders said:
I liked him in Big Lebowski and in O Brother Where Art Thou, otherwise I can take him or leave him.

He was great in Barton Fink. Cohen brothers movie.

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

wikkidpissah said:
Let's be clear - there's was nothing good to say about American govt when Trump came along. Obama had wasted a huge legacy & 8 years without reversing a single portion of Dubya's travesties and did no more than slop the cold porridge of ACA in our healthcare bowls and Congress has done nothing but profiteer since 9/11. The people most upset about Trump are largely as pathetic as those who elected President Drunkuncle. Wont watch the show because i wasnt a fan the 1st timne, but if Roseanne wants to explore what made this all possible, more power to her. It's not like we're delaying The Answer by attempting to understand how we got the President that America deserves.

He might not have changed any of the things you wanted changed, but that doesn't mean he didn't reverse anything terrible from Bush.

Ditkaless Wonders · Mar 30, 2018

What is the % chance the show is trolling everyone and will have a huge gotcha moment in the season finale?

wikkidpissah · Mar 30, 2018

Henry Ford said:
He might not have changed any of the things you wanted changed, but that doesn't mean he didn't reverse anything terrible from Bush.

Didnt argue it then, wont argue it now - far as i could see, the foxes were running more henhouses when he left than when he came. An eloquent excuse factory for greater proliferance of corruption & fecklessness was and is my assessment of the Obama White House.

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

Ditkaless Wonders said:
What is the % chance the show is trolling everyone and will have a huge gotcha moment in the season finale?

Not high.

Thunderlips · Mar 30, 2018

bagger said:
Her show was always about white trash, not some model family to look up to. So of course that white trash fsmily is going to be pro trump in the show. She is smart enough to know that will resonate with a base of people who have not cut the cord streaming media and watch primarily network tv, which are not surprisingly also trump fans.

good for her. If people like the show it will stay on, if not it will be off the air. Like every other show.

To be fair, they're not white trash. They're a moderately realistic representation of a huge swath of working class America.

Henry Ford · Mar 30, 2018

wikkidpissah said:
Didnt argue it then, wont argue it now - far as i could see, the foxes were running more henhouses when he left than when he came. An eloquent excuse factory for greater proliferance of corruption & fecklessness was and is my assessment of the Obama White House.

These kinds of statements come off better without any made-up words.

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