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You asked why undercounting African Americans and other people of color in communities would be a bad thing. If you don't want them to be counted, the inference is that bigotry or racism towards people of color is probably the reason - unless you can explain what else you meant by that comment (which you have refused to do).
Thanks for posting.
It sure sounded like racism to me too. But you can explain what you exactly meant and I’ll accept it; otherwise, forgive us for making what is a pretty obvious assumption.
This is the first time I'm reading jiffy's work so maybe I'm being too generous but it sounds like he's saying the census is pointless - I'm guessing if you asked him if they undercounted <insert group here> he would say he doesn't care.
See that is what is wrong with today's society. Everyone immediately jumps to the negative. Guilty until proven innocent.
posty, I believe.
Is that his argument? That the census is pointless? Damn. I’d probably respect him more if he were simply a racist.
Maybe a more accurate argument is he doesn't care if groups aren't counted. At this point I went ahead and put him in ignore so I'll never know - just guessing on a slow Friday afternoon.
Careful, Tim, he gets upset when people puts words in his mouth. He did not give that or any other reason for why AAs being undercounted would not be a bad thing.
I think it's more: Count whoever wants to be counted and don't worry about the rest. Not sure what happens after that, but that's where we are right now.
Why are you assuming he's not ok if it's white people? I didn't say minority group, I said group. Again, I don't know this poster so maybe he has a history I'm not aware of.
In our quest to understand his full argument, I don't think he's saying "minority group". He's just saying "group". It could be a majority group. And, really, I think he's saying the whole group, all humans, can be undercounted and he's fine with that. Not sure where he stands on non-humans.
It wouldn't be OK to say you'd be happy if white people got screwed over either. Not in this context, at least, when you're talking about having fair representation in government. If you're talking about not being able to say the N word or something, that's a different story.
you said it was a generous reading of what he said. All I was doing was giving my read on things - that was he seemed to not care which groups are underrepresented in the count. I didn't give an opinion on his stance - I think it's stupid no matter his reasoning. I just didn't understand why people jumped to him being a racist - but again, I don't know who this poster used to be or if he's new. That makes no sense if you go back to the original post to which he responded.
I think it's posty --> trident --> jiffy.
At first, no. But, if you followed it up with "I mean, is hockey even needed any more?" and then followed it up with posts that indicate that you think hockey should be done differently for all people than it currently is, then I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that your initial attempt to communicate your point wasn't the best and that you don't hate Asians.
You said it, GB. I'll find any silly argument I can to pass the time at this point.
I agree. They should take the time to fill out the information and not be so self-involved thinking that the world revolves around them.
Why do I need the Census when I can just go to Google to get the population of my state!
That level of jackassery seems to be very common when I see quotes from posters on my ignore list.
Good but it wouldn't be shocking if they put the question on there anyway. There's no consequences for breaking the law or trampling on the Constitution.
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BREAKING: Supreme Court blocks citizenship question on 2020 census for now. The court says the administration's explanation for it was insufficient.
7:44 AM - 27 Jun 2019
Trump asks lawyers if census can be delayed, calls Supreme Court decision ‘totally ridiculous’Sheriff Bart said:
