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Dynasty: Michael Gallup Puns Galore (2 Viewers)
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Living in the DMV, I used to hate how Cowboys players would get taken early by Cowboys fans (and sometimes Redskins fans trying to snipe the Cowboys fans). Basically ruined them as value picks.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I am not a fan of Mike Williams and I think he was drafted too high by the Chargers, even so I think your trade makes sense and good luck to you.
Would you have done the same deal for John Ross?
the lone star
Footballguy
Who thinks he will be the receiving leader for the Cowboys this season?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
the lone star
Footballguy
I'm picking Hurns, but we'll see what happens. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Gallup or Beasley.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Hurns should be the big favorite to lead Dallas in receiving, IMO.
Very interested to see what Gallup can do, though.
If guys like Gallup, Rico, & Austin (or Thompson) come through, the Cowboys will have a vastly improved receiving corps.
Very interested to see what Gallup can do, though.
If guys like Gallup, Rico, & Austin (or Thompson) come through, the Cowboys will have a vastly improved receiving corps.
Football Jones
Footballguy
If Beasley leads us in receiving, we're in deep, DEEP do-do, LOL.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Football Jones
Footballguy
I cringe when I hear that.
Things were different in 2016. Dez was more Dez, Witten was more Witten, Dak was magical as a rookie, etc.We don't have a true #1 receiver & if Beasley leads us in receiving again in 2018, we're absolutely screwed, IMO.
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az_prof
Footballguy
I expect Hurns to lead the team this year in receiving. Hurns has done it before and the last two years he has been hampered by some injuries. But he is capable of leading a team. I like Gallup too and it wouldn't surprise me if he led the team, but I don't expect it.
the lone star
Footballguy
the lone star
Footballguy
I hope that Gallup = more WR screens. That'd be cool.
I'd like to see more RB screens too.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm not saying Gallup won't be a great draft pick, but in most leagues I had to decide between Gallup and Miller and chose the latter. No way was I going to get both, so I ended up with Miller in several leagues and Gallup in none. I hope that doesn't come back to bite me.
the lone star
Footballguy
He reminds me a little of Torrey Smith tbh.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think Hurns may be capable of leading this team but I am not sure that is saying much considering the WR corps around him.
Chaka
Footballguy
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
the lone star
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Of course, to a degree but that didn't seem to do much for Eli Rogers or Sammie Coates or DHB. If the talent isn't there the QB can only do so much, heck that's true even if the talent is there (see: Bryant, Martavis).
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
2016 ROY, ran for his life last yr with oline issues. If the line is healthy this yr he'll be fine imo
az_prof
Footballguy
I did the same. Gallup has a great opportunity but he doesn't look like a dynamic playmaker. He doesn't look like a guy who will ever be a WR1 but more of a complementary receiver.
I don’t necessarily disagree with this, but is that saying that you see differently in Miller?
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Was gonna say the same. Only guy i see with potential #1 ability is Moore personally. Return yardage leagues i like Pettis as well.
foxco
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Football Jones
Footballguy
I loved the pick in round 3. Great value, IMO.
I'm leery of him ever being a #1, but Gallup has some upside.
I'm leery of him ever being a #1, but Gallup has some upside.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Has there been any news about Gallup, positive or other, coming out of mini camps? Haven’t seen nor heard anything.
Dak is the kind of QB who needs to have perfect conditions(WRs that are Dak friendly, top 5 o-line, elite RB playing) to be a respectable fantasy QB and I am not really into that
Chaka
Footballguy
With the exception of maybe 5 QBs doesn't that hold true for everyone?
23 passing TDs in 2016, 22 in 2017, 6 rushing TDs each season, 343 fewer passing yards, 75 more rushing yards. The only glaring difference is 9 more INTs but anyone who anticipated a career 0.9 INT% was delusional. If you want to hold onto a sub 1.5 INT% you end up with Alex Smith.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
This is such lazy analysis. If you’re just going to reverberate the same crap that anonymous media personalities are going to spew than you might as well not even post this drivel.zeeshan2 said:
The kid lost three of hist starting five offensive linemen, a top three runningback and his receivers dropped numerous passes, at least four of which turned into pick sixes and you want to blame this guy and say he has to have the perfect surrounding cast? SMH, lazy, just lazy.
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Slider
Footballguy
Not really. I saw the same thing. He didn't step up one bit when he lost any of that. He folded. You're making excuses.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Chaka already stated his statistical Numbers last seasonwhich wasn’t horrific for a second your QB with no offense oline and by all accounts, the no receivers.
You can’t post statistics because they don’t favor your argument. Through two years he has one of the best statistical outputs of any player who’s ever played in this league.
I don’t think he’s ever going to be set testicle powerhouse like a Aaron Rodgers but the guy is and will continue to be a winner.
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It's not just me; it's multiple Dallas radio stations, including the one that is the home of the Cowboys. He was awful last year; so much so that the Dallas offense didn't crack 10 points for 3 straight games, which was a franchise record. That same offense the year before produced for him so I don't understand where the hate is coming from. 6 of his last 8 games were under 200 yards passing. Just read this article and tell me what you think:
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2018/2/18/17023746/who-is-the-real-dak-prescott
Add up a harder schedule, a vanilla offense with a HC that is predictable and doesn't respond to change quickly(see the ATL game) and pretty much all new recievers and new TE's and I am not sure how he gets back to his rookie year numbers.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I’ve read that. Do you have anything else to offer or are you just going to stand behind what A blogger wrote?
Also, I’m not sure which station you’re listening to because none of the guys that I listen to say these things.
Since you like random bloggers, here read this article
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I shouldn't use facts and stats to argue my point? Silly me. I mean the guy isn't a random blogger; he runs the Dallas Cowboys SBnation blog. The radio station I am alluding to is 105.3 the Fan in Dallas, which is where I live. I can clearly see you are a Dak-head so any slander of your boy is going to get called out.
From that article you posted(by the way, that chart has the likes of McCown, Tannehill, and Tyrod Taylor in front of Dak, LOL):
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Chaka
Footballguy
To be fair he had a mediocre year in 2017. But his fantasy output, which @zeeshan2 was referring to, was very close to what he did in 2016. The INTs were the only major difference between year one and year 2 from a fantasy perspective.
From an NFL perspective he was down in other key metrics, particularly yards per attempt which dropped precipitously from 8.6 Y/A to 6.5 Y/A which is a drop from uber elite to mediocre. However I don't know many fantasy leagues that award QBs points based upon Y/A
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
He isn’t a blogger, but he’s the head blogger. Lol, OK.
The kid is going into his third year and you guys are ready to write the narrative on him. Well some of you who can’t think for yourselves may not, others just reverberate things they’ve heard on local sports radio and blogs.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
The kid had a down year but there are a lot of reasons for it. Nobody wants to hear it and we will just have to wait and see after this season.
Chaka
Footballguy
It's not hate at all but it's also not what you originally said. Your original post specifically stated "fantasy" production and from a fantasy perspective there was only a minor drop-off from 2016 to 2017. Your analysis was lazy because, if I am reading you correctly, you did not make the distinction in your mind between fantasy production and NFL production, and yes there is a huge difference between the two.
Now you have moved the goal post and want it to be about NFL production, which is fine and I absolutely agree that he was not good from an NFL perspective in 2017. Just try to be a little more clear about the point you are trying to make in the future.
I didn't mean fantasy production but real life production. I am not sure why you would get fantasy numbers when I mentioned that this is a make or break year for him. Dak will get fantasy points because of his legs, I know that. As far as being an effective QB and leading the Cowboy offense, I think his cast like I mentioned above is the main factor if he will do well or not, which is debatable.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Who are all these quarterbacks not named Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady who can carry a team by themselves?
Chaka
Footballguy
This is why.
This is the post that both @STEADYMOBBIN 22 and I were responding to and you have since moved the goal posts, which is fine but I don't think you will find many people arguing that Dak didn't decline as an NFL QB from 2016 to 2017.zeeshan2 said:
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