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WR James Washington, NO Saints (2 Viewers)
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BobbyLayne
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BobbyLayne
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I’ve been monitoring closely. He’s been limited in his play with the ones but I feel comfortable saying his potential is higher than Moncriefs. I don’t know what the Steelers are doing trying to jam in Moncrief who has no long term value to the club and will only be there in 2019. Ben saying good things and his play (which has been high in practice as well as games) leads me to believe Washington is going to come out on top sooner rather than later. I imagine Moncrief will get a few games and he’ll do what he does: disappear or get injured then it will be Washington’s chance.Â
squistion
Footballguy
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/08/25/Steelers-wide-receiver-James-Washington-Mason-Rudolph-NFL-exhibition-Tennessee-Titans-Mike-Tomlin/stories/201908250175?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_PGSportsNow
WR James Washington continues to impress for Steelers
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — If James Washington keeps this up, people are going to forget about that wide receiver with the Oakland Raiders.
Washington, last year’s No. 2 draft choice, continued his eye-opening preseason with his third catch of at least 40 yards, this time for a touchdown in the first quarter against the Tennessee Titans.
On the second play after quarterback Mason Rudolph replaced Ben Roethlisberger, Washington beat cornerback Kenneth Durden deep in the middle of the field for a 41-yard touchdown that gave the Steelers a 15-0 lead.
(video at link).
Washington came into the game averaging 20.2 yards on eight catches, including receptions of 43 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and 40 yards versus Kansas City Chiefs.
All three of his long catches have followed a similar pattern: They have come either on the first or second play of a series. That the first deep one with Rudolph, his former college teammate.
WR James Washington continues to impress for Steelers
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — If James Washington keeps this up, people are going to forget about that wide receiver with the Oakland Raiders.
Washington, last year’s No. 2 draft choice, continued his eye-opening preseason with his third catch of at least 40 yards, this time for a touchdown in the first quarter against the Tennessee Titans.
On the second play after quarterback Mason Rudolph replaced Ben Roethlisberger, Washington beat cornerback Kenneth Durden deep in the middle of the field for a 41-yard touchdown that gave the Steelers a 15-0 lead.
(video at link).
Washington came into the game averaging 20.2 yards on eight catches, including receptions of 43 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and 40 yards versus Kansas City Chiefs.
All three of his long catches have followed a similar pattern: They have come either on the first or second play of a series. That the first deep one with Rudolph, his former college teammate.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
 Nice preseason but didn’t catch anything from Ben, right? That 41 yard TD v the Titans was just silly coverage, no idea what the safety’s responsibility was but waving buh bye from 8 yards away was suboptimal.
Like his upside as he continues to develop his craft this year. They’ll run a lot of 3 WR sets so I’m not too worried about snap count. He was basically free at 14.03 (Moncrief went 10.06) so bonus if he contributes, easy drop if he doesn’t.
Like his upside as he continues to develop his craft this year. They’ll run a lot of 3 WR sets so I’m not too worried about snap count. He was basically free at 14.03 (Moncrief went 10.06) so bonus if he contributes, easy drop if he doesn’t.
rockaction
Footballguy
This has really only gotta be a matter of a few weeks, doesn't it?
I mean Moncrief and the others deserved no tread with the ones, and Washington was the only one getting separation at all. I have a hard time believing that Moncrief retains his role given his utterly disastrous showing last night. (Disastrous in the sense that he wasn't catching balls hitting him in the hands.)
I mean Moncrief and the others deserved no tread with the ones, and Washington was the only one getting separation at all. I have a hard time believing that Moncrief retains his role given his utterly disastrous showing last night. (Disastrous in the sense that he wasn't catching balls hitting him in the hands.)
grateful zed
Footballguy
diontae in his rear view mirror.
James Washington lead the league in air yards and aDot... try again. He’s going to blow up in the next few weeks.
And I should care about air yards and aDot, why? I'm more interested in who is a better WR.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
rockaction said:
There are other things besides getting open that Moncrief may do better than Washington. Such as blocking?
To be honest I thought the Steelers looked phased and out of synch the whole game. Credit to the Patriots defense and game plan as a part of that, but it seemed that JJSS not as good as Brown and Ben needs Brown more than Brown needs him.
But maybe Washington earns more snaps moving forward.
Game 1
Moncrief had as many snaps as JJSS 90% of the Steelers plays.
Switzer had the 3rd most 46 (67%)
Washinton the 4th most 36 (52%)
So first lets see if Washington can earn more snaps than Switzer before worrying about Moncrief.
aggie_dave
Footballguy
With all due respect (and not to just be contrary), but I’m not sure that is sound logic. Switzerland is never going to move past the slot, as that’s where his talents lie. Montcrief did look absolutely HORRIBLE in all phases last night. Not sure if it will be Washington or Diontae, but somebody’s going to be starting opposite JJSS really soon.Â
There are other things besides getting open that Moncrief may do better than Washington. Such as blocking?
To be honest I thought the Steelers looked phased and out of synch the whole game. Credit to the Patriots defense and game plan as a part of that, but it seemed that JJSS not as good as Brown and Ben needs Brown more than Brown needs him.
But maybe Washington earns more snaps moving forward.
Game 1
Moncrief had as many snaps as JJSS 90% of the Steelers plays.
Switzer had the 3rd most 46 (67%)
Washinton the 4th most 36 (52%)
So first lets see if Washington can earn more snaps than Switzer before worrying about Moncrief.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
What is wrong with the logic?
Facts are that the Steelers have played 3 or more WR more than any other team last season and that isn't likely to change. So there will be 3 WR on the field on the majority of all offensive plays (more than 3/4ths of them).
To get opportunities you have to be on the field. Switzer played more offensive snaps than Washington.Â
It would be a huge increase for Washington to be playing 90% of the snaps like Moncrief had. So I think of this in terms of baby steps. First he would need to play more than Switzer.
But your point is taken that perhaps it would be a large leap like this if you think Switzer is entrenched at the slot WR position.
I agree. Switzer needs off the field, period. JJSS should be in slot and some combo of Moncrief/Washignton/Johnson need to be on the outside. Ben needs to deal with it and get himself straight. I don’t agree with the Ben needing Brown more than the opposite. Let’s not forget that little ##### ran away from Derek Carr to get to the top QB/offense in the league. Ben has survived a long, long time and without AB. His decline is inevitable though and could even be past due.
PennStater77
Footballguy
With Ben now out and Mason taking over. Does Washington get a bump to almost a top WR for Pittsburgh over JUJu?
I expect Washington targets to raise and JuJu to drop.Â
I expect Washington targets to raise and JuJu to drop.Â
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
PennStater77
Footballguy
No real reason just on familiarity. I think JUJu will continue to get blanketed. Maybe more now.Â
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Because CBS just mentioned it on their Podcast - Rudolph and Washington played together in college and likely will lean on each other and have a trust factor. I could see this happening, even more so if Conner is out and less touches go that way.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Snap counts for Steelers WR week 2
JJSS 47 (86%) 8 targets 5 receptions
Washington 34 (60%) 3 targets 2 receptions
Johnson 27 (47%) 4 targets 1 reception
Moncrief 18 (32%) 1 target 0 receptions
Switzer 13Â (23%) 4 targets 1 reception
Progress?
JJSS 47 (86%) 8 targets 5 receptions
Washington 34 (60%) 3 targets 2 receptions
Johnson 27 (47%) 4 targets 1 reception
Moncrief 18 (32%) 1 target 0 receptions
Switzer 13Â (23%) 4 targets 1 reception
Progress?
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Yep agreed, and that chemistry continued in the preseason this year. Moncrief is battling a finger injury, had four drops last week and a brutal drop turned INT vs. Seahawks. I don't know how Steelers can continue to start Moncrief over Washington.
Washington is the epitome of a buy low candidate. Rudolph + for him, Conner injury + for him, Moncrief is terrible + for him. SF in w3 (Pitt should have to throw a lot), CIN in w4 (gave up 600yds to SF) and Mia w6 are 3/4 decent games coming up. Â
TripleThreat
Footballguy
IIRC all of Washington's TDs in the preseason were from Rudolf.Â
LakeCowboy
Footballguy
On 19 attempts, Rudolph targeted Washington once. Juju and VMac will get blanketed with targets.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
pick him up now before it is too late
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rockaction
Footballguy
Benches too short, too many other guys...
I drafted him, too, over Moncrief knowing he'd win the job and that the Pittsburgh WR2 is a bountiful position. Injuries are clogging my bench. I believe, though. I wish he and his GMs well.Â
rockaction
Footballguy
Back in.Â
Interseptopus
Footballguy
thank you to this thread for being ahead of the game and allowing me to trade him this offseasonÂ
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers really banged up right now.Â
