2018 rookie pick 2.08 post combine (1 Viewer)

The purpose of these polls is to get an idea of who the majority of voters prefer at a specific pick in a rookie draft. These drafts assume that all 2018 rookie players are available. For the 2QB poll there may be some variance in scoring. Some may be standard, others PPR. I think a lot of 2QB leagues may involve IDP as well so these differences are not accounted for here. Only looking at the offensive skill players in the two most common formats and also 2QB leagues, to get a sense of where the QB are valued relative to other positions, when there is actually scarcity at the QB position. The polls assume 12 teams and likely 24-26 roster spots as the most common format for dynasty. Short bench dynasty leagues should only care about the top 6-12 rookie players.

If a player isn't listed that you would vote for please vote other and then post the name of the player that you voted for so that player can be added to the next poll. Also please suggest players not listed that you would vote for soon, even if not on the particular poll that is active.

I will be using this list compiled by miqws that looks good for populating the poll.

Discussion welcome.Thanks for voting.

Previous polls

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1.07

1.08

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Results

Standard

Sanquon Barkley 83.9% with 57 votes

Derrius Guice 67.4% with 51 votes

Nick Chubb 52.2% with 48 votes

Sony Michel 34% with 54 votes

Rashaad Penny 32% with 60 votes

Ronald Jones 48.3% with 65 votes

Courtland Sutton 27.8% with 57 votes

Royce Freeman 41.2% with 58 votes

Kerryon Johnson 33.3% with 63 votes

Calvin Ridley 44.9% with 59 votes

DJ Moore 28.6% with 55 votes

Christian Kirk 25.6% with 46 votes

James Washington 28.7% with 40 votes

Equanimeous St. Brown 23.8% with 48 votes

Dallas Goedert 17.1% with 47 votes

Michael Gallup 20% with 41 votes (Tie with Josh Rosen broken by Gallup winning the PPR poll)

Josh Rosen 18.9% with 40 votes

Anthony Miller 15% with 42 votes (Tie with Mayfield broken by Miller winning PPR poll before Mayfield)

Baker Mayfield 17.1% with 36 votes (Tie with John Kelly broken by Mayfield also being involved in a tie on the previous poll)

PPR

Sanquon Barkley 91% with 57 votes

Derrius Guice 63% with 51 votes

Nick Chubb 34.8% with 48 votes

Sony Michel 42.6% with 54 votes

Ronald Jones 43.4% with 60 votes

Rashaad Penny 41.7% with 65 votes

Courtland Sutton 38.9% with 57 votes

Calvin Ridley 39.2% with 58 votes

Royce Freeman 22.2% with 63 votes

Kerryon Johnson 26.5% with 59 votes (close to a tie with Christian Kirk)

Christian Kirk 32.7% with 55 votes (DJ Moore won the run off poll)

DJ Moore 43.6% with 46 votes

James Washington 43.2% with 40 votes

Equanimeous St. Brown 40.4% with 48 votes

Dallas Goedert 24.4% with 47 votes

Michael Gallup 22.9% with 41 votes

Anthony Miller 32.4% with 40 votes

Mike Gesicki 25% with 42 votes

DJ Chark 22.9% with 36 votes (editors note  )

2 QB

Sanquon Barkley 67.9% with 57 votes

Derrius Guice 28.3% with 51 votes

Nick Chubb 17.4% with 48 votes

Sony Michel 17.8% with 54 votes

Sam Darnold 13.2% with 60 votes

Josh Rosen 23.3% with 65 votes

Baker Mayfield  20.4% with 57 votes

Josh Allen 19.6% with 58 votes

Lamar Jackson 20.4% with 63 votes

Ronald Jones 20.4% with 59 votes

Courtland Sutton 18.4% with 55 votes

Rashaad Penny 25.6% with 46 votes

Calvin Ridley 24.3% with 40 votes

James Washington 11.9% with 48 votes

Mason Rudolph 12.2% with 47 votes

DJ Moore 22.9% with 41 votes

Royce Freeman 21.6% with 40 votes

Christian Kirk 15% with 42 votes

Kerryon Johnson 25.7% with 36 votes

TE Premium

Sanquon Barkley 71.4% with 57 votes

Derrius Guice 47.8% with 51 votes

Nick Chubb 30.4% with 48 votes

Sony Michel 34% with 54 votes

Ronald Jones 24.5% with 60 votes

Rashaad Penny 35% with 65 votes

Courtland Sutton 22.2% with 57 votes

Calvin Ridley 29.4% with 58 votes

Royce Freeman 18.5% with 63 votes

Mike Gesicki 18.4% with 59 votes

Dallas Goedert 14,3% with 55 votes

DJ Moore  13.5% with 46 votes (Tie with Mark Andrews resolved by DJ Moore going ahead of Andrews in PPR poll)

James Washington 10.8% with 40 votes (Tie with Mark Andrews resolved by Washington going ahead of Andrews in PPR poll)

Kerryon Johnson 19% with 48 votes (interest in Andrews seems to have faded.. Hurst tied with him in this poll)

Mark Andrews 14.6% (Broke tie with Hayden Hurst based on Andrews having already tied in two previous polls)

Hayden Hurst 14% with 41 votes (4 way tie between Rosen, Hurst, Kirk and Kelly broken by Hurst almost winning previous poll)

Christian Kirk 24.3 with 40 votes

Equanimeous St. Brown 17.5% with 42 votes

Michael Gallup 11.4% with 36 votes (Tie with Josh Rosen broken by Gallup being higher in PPR poll)

My other for PPR is Kallen Ballege. See him as good 3rd down back and able to pound for TD. Might not be bell cow but he has the tools but he could be special secondary guy with hands and size. 

Crippler said:

My other for PPR is Kallen Ballege. See him as good 3rd down back and able to pound for TD. Might not be bell cow but he has the tools but he could be special secondary guy with hands and size. 

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Its early I will go ahead and edit him in.

I had him in some of the earlier polls. He is the next player to add after Callaway on miqws list. 

^^

Ballage underrated. I haven’t been in the last couple pick threads, do you not like chark or happy he is there? I guess I can go back and read the comments.

Snorkelson said:

Ballage underrated. I haven’t been in the last couple pick threads, do you not like chark or happy he is there? I guess I can go back and read the comments.

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I haven't really watched Chark. 

He is one of the biggest risers after the combine is what I find funny about it because pre combine ranking for Chark was very low. You know when just based on watching him play.

In miqws February list Chark was the 37th player overal and the 17th WR. In more recent list  from April Chark is now 21st overall and WR 9.

The poll where he won was PPR at 19 so a little earlier than the list. He was WR 9 in that poll the same as miqws list.

Bump

This may be the last poll based on the pace of voting.

22 votes so far

Is it just my lack of clarity or is the drop from 1.07 to 2.08 not that significant? 

-OZ- said:

Is it just my lack of clarity or is the drop from 1.07 to 2.08 not that significant? 

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For which poll?

Biabreakable said:

For which poll?

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All except the 2qb. 

-OZ- said:

All except the 2qb. 

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Hmm well this implies that there is a big six. So for those 3 polls that would be Barkley Guice Chubb Michel, Jones and Penny.

I think Freeman and Kerryon Johnson belong in the same tier as those guys, so for RB it would be a big 8 in my view, with some other good RB still after them.

There are some receivers in these that I would consider tier two, while some of the big 8 may be tier two also, but some of them could be tier one, if drafted high enough and the fit is good.

Unless one of these WR is drafted top 13 or something I do not see any of them moving to tier one, so in that sense we may be seeing things similarly.

I am thinking Lamar Jackson is tier one for fantasy unless he is drafted much later than I expect he will be. He seems to be a lock for the 1st round and maybe early first round. He hasn't even won a poll yet. I am sure some think some of these other QB will be better than Jackson as well,  According to the 2 QB poll 4 of them will. I can't say I agree with that, but I can see it I suppose with Rosen or Mayfield. I just see them as perhaps less risk than Jackson, not as much upside. This is fantasy we are talking about, this guy can run.

I haven't watched the WR enough to have very strong opinions about them. I am pretty much going to let draft position decide a lot for me there. Ridley, Moore and Sutton seem most ikely to be the first WR taken in the NFL draft, to me they are all pretty much the same tier of players. so this gets us to a top 9 then a deep tier of everyone else in my view. I will likely rank some of the WR ahead of the RB in the top 8 who fall the furthest in the NFL draft.

If I were to try to read this just based on the results of the poll, then I would say there is a top 2 who at least half of the people voted for,  then the next group of 4 RB then the next group of players, but it varies because Sutton and Ridley are getting similarly high votes as the RB before them, not really a drop in tier yet. I could view the PPR poll as the first two players then picks 3-12 all being the next tier. In standard it looks like the top 3 then 4-11 as the next tier. The TE premium poll is harder to read as not enough people voting other than DNP but this looks similar to the standard poll, a top 2 then 3-8 as the next tier. Freeman, Johnson RIdleys support gets defused more by people voting for the TE as well at that point unlike the other two polls.

Biabreakable said:

Hmm well this implies that there is a big six. So for those 3 polls that would be Barkley Guice Chubb Michel, Jones and Penny.

I think Freeman and Kerryon Johnson belong in the same tier as those guys, so for RB it would be a big 8 in my view, with some other good RB still after them.

There are some receivers in these that I would consider tier two, while some of the big 8 may be tier two also, but some of them could be tier one, if drafted high enough and the fit is good.

Unless one of these WR is drafted top 13 or something I do not see any of them moving to tier one, so in that sense we may be seeing things similarly.

I am thinking Lamar Jackson is tier one for fantasy unless he is drafted much later than I expect he will be. He seems to be a lock for the 1st round and maybe early first round. He hasn't even won a poll yet. I am sure some think some of these other QB will be better than Jackson as well,  According to the 2 QB poll 4 of them will. I can't say I agree with that, but I can see it I suppose with Rosen or Mayfield. I just see them as perhaps less risk than Jackson, not as much upside. This is fantasy we are talking about, this guy can run.

I haven't watched the WR enough to have very strong opinions about them. I am pretty much going to let draft position decide a lot for me there. Ridley, Moore and Sutton seem most ikely to be the first WR taken in the NFL draft, to me they are all pretty much the same tier of players. so this gets us to a top 9 then a deep tier of everyone else in my view. I will likely rank some of the WR ahead of the RB in the top 8 who fall the furthest in the NFL draft.

If I were to try to read this just based on the results of the poll, then I would say there is a top 2 who at least half of the people voted for,  then the next group of 4 RB then the next group of players, but it varies because Sutton and Ridley are getting similarly high votes as the RB before them, not really a drop in tier yet. I could view the PPR poll as the first two players then picks 3-12 all being the next tier. In standard it looks like the top 3 then 4-11 as the next tier. The TE premium poll is harder to read as not enough people voting other than DNP but this looks similar to the standard poll, a top 2 then 3-8 as the next tier. Freeman, Johnson RIdleys support gets defused more by people voting for the TE as well at that point unlike the other two polls.

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That's probably our biggest difference. I don't think either of those guys being with the top 6. Obviously I could be wrong but I have them in the 3rd tier.  (Barkley being one, then the next 5 with guice slightly above).

-OZ- said:

That's probably our biggest difference. I don't think either of those guys being with the top 6. Obviously I could be wrong but I have them in the 3rd tier.  (Barkley being one, then the next 5 with guice slightly above).

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Yeah thats just my personal opinion. The polls do not agree with my view. Which is fine.