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Jaylen Samuels - Steelers RB/TE Hybrid - Dynasty (1 Viewer)
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habsfan
Footballguy
I feel like Gronk, Kittle and Ebron are the only tough decisions. No way I would start him over Kelce and Ertz, and no way I wouldn't start him over any other TE.
With Gronk in particular, I'm not sure I'd have the stomach to bench him, but I totally get why you would. (Also, I haven't been riding the emotional rollercoaster all season.)
habsfan
Footballguy
Unscientific but I have decided that I would rather live with the consequences of a "classic Gronk" on my bench than another "lately Gronk" game in my line-up.
Longtucky Lemmings
Footballguy
I'm considering it.
In a large league (72 teams - six 12-team divisions, playoffs involve top teams from all six divisions). Second round of the playoffs. It's a RB-bonus league (RB's get 0.15 points per yard compared to 0.1 ppy for all other players). So, I have to start 4 of the following:
Gurley, Mixon, Lindsey, Ekeler, Josh Adams, Rashaad Penny, and Jaylen Samuels
Oakland is such a dumpster fire against the run......Ekeler might lose touches to Jackson, Penny is as unpredictable as they come (and Minnesota has a tough defense), Adams playing in a tough matchup......
Asslete
Footballguy
rick6668
Footballguy
I'm debating the same thing. Tough decision to bench Gronk, but he really hasn't helped my team this year as I thought he would. in a 16 team league where you must start a TE he was supposed to be a huge advantage. I'm leaning towards Samuels in this spot as this is a Yahoo league.
Retweeted by Schefter “RB Jaylen Samuels said he will start Sunday’s game against the Raiders but that he and Stevan Ridley will split time. Samuels will get a package, then Ridley will go, per Samuels.”
Thats a nice game plan there... it would be a shame if actual game time messed it up... my guess is that this will generally be true for carries but not in passing situations or two minute drills. Still think Samuels is a solid rb2/3 start with rb1 upside and definitely a te1
Thats a nice game plan there... it would be a shame if actual game time messed it up... my guess is that this will generally be true for carries but not in passing situations or two minute drills. Still think Samuels is a solid rb2/3 start with rb1 upside and definitely a te1
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Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Yeah, he's my guy in the one league I have Conner in. Over Ingram and Jordan Howard. Not in love with the decision though.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
starks
Footballguy
Anyone think that if they were playing the pats or ravens this week Conner would be a go? But because it's the raiders they will likely drop Ben back 50 times if need be and beat them by calling back Jerome Bettis if that were an option?
I just have the feeling this a "bye week" for Conner to save him for the stretch run and it isn't as serious as most think.
*full disclosure I spent the remainder 34% of my faab with a week 14 bye on Samuels and a Conner owner
I just have the feeling this a "bye week" for Conner to save him for the stretch run and it isn't as serious as most think.
*full disclosure I spent the remainder 34% of my faab with a week 14 bye on Samuels and a Conner owner
In general, I'm skeptical that teams think that way as often as people assume they do. But in this specific case, it's even less likely. The Steelers have lost two straight winnable conference games (after pulling the Jax game out of their ###es) and are only a half game up on the Ravens. Their two games after this one are NE/@NO. They absolutely can't afford to blow this one on the road.
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I actually think the opposite. I think its only slightly better than 50-50 we see Conner again this season. I think its a high ankle sprain, which is often at least a 3-4 week injury, and I think its entirely possible the Steelers don't make the playoffs, as they likely have 2 losses coming up. Is 9-6-1 gonna make it?
rockaction
Footballguy
High ankle sprains do take a while. I had one once. Took a month to get back on the ice, even. And that's with a boot for support.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Maybe its a kiddie rollercoaster. Gives you a bit of a thrill but not that feeling in your belly when coming down from that big drop.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Roto take
In situations where Ridley is in the game, they expect to see Samuels get time on the field as a TE. Depending on how Tomlin gameplans this, we may see true Swiss Army knife usage from "Flex" Samuels.
rick6668
Footballguy
Guess which way I went. Unreal, Freaking Gronk puts up his highest total of the year and they're not done yet.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Depending on what you used him as (RB or TE) he wound up with an good line. Got vultured twice by Ridley and a risky pass that nearly was an INT. Notably unless I missed it he didn't play any snaps as a planted TE, but he was utilized as a WR and a "move TE".
TenMidgets
Footballguy
Would anyone start him over Kelce at TE in yahoo?
Elevencents
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
TenMidgets
Footballguy
TenMidgets
Footballguy
Should've listened to my gut.
How? 7-61 isn’t bad, Samuels literally still has a chance to not even play much if Conner is active. Benching the top TE in fantasy for a backup RB would have been dumb even if Samuels does end up scoring more then him this weekend
TenMidgets
Footballguy
Everything I am reading suggests Conner playing is unrealistic and I believe it 100% since he has a high ankle sprain.Bfrahm3 said:
Kelce has been held down by the Chargers for the last 5 games and knowing Derwin James was going to defend him most plays, I was very hesitant.
Samuels is the lead back on a powerhouse offense, at home in a must win and possesses dual threat skills with a great chance to score. I just regret not using the crucial loophole of playing a bellcow RB at the TE spot. Could cost me the semifinal matchup...
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This is my favorite part of fantasy football, tracking a player all year, seeing him get his chance at playoff time, and betting on him and watching him succeed. Great game today.
I regret letting him go in my dynasty, but using him in the playoffs elsewhere
Football Jones
Footballguy
I missed all the games today due to reffing a wrestling tournament, but I can’t wait to watch Samuels on GamePass when I get home.
He look good?
He look good?
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jerseys finest
Footballguy
honestly, here's hoping they rest connor until the playoffs after that big win over NE, but i doubt it. 
If Connor can play, i think he plays. If the ravens weren't right on the steelers heels, i could see them resting Connor, but with only a 1/2 game lead in the division with 2 games to play, Pitt has to put its best players on the field. Although, Samuels played exceptionally well while Connor was out.
If Connor can play, i think he plays. If the ravens weren't right on the steelers heels, i could see them resting Connor, but with only a 1/2 game lead in the division with 2 games to play, Pitt has to put its best players on the field. Although, Samuels played exceptionally well while Connor was out. BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Conner and Samuels are going to become a full-tilt 2-headed combo.
There is no reason for the Steelers not to unless Conner cant handle a time-share. Samuel did it as a collegiate with no issues being very valuable as such.
There is no reason for the Steelers not to unless Conner cant handle a time-share. Samuel did it as a collegiate with no issues being very valuable as such.
Milkman
Footballguy
I see a scenario where it starts like that but Samuels out performs Conner and pushes his way into the starting line up........
Elevencents
Footballguy
100%. Sometimes it’s the system. Like you said, no doubt Bell is a talented back but I think a lot of guys would have success in Pittsburgh moreso than somewhere else.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Its better for the team to utilize two backs, if they have the talent. Even if it tilts a bit one way or the other.
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Milkman
Footballguy
Are the Steelers a team that does uses RBBC though? I see a bit of a fight to the death between the two backs with Samuels winning out in the end.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Depends on the talent. Bell had everyone crushed for several years. The year before he arrived they split Dwyer and Redman. And a bit before that it was Bettis and Staley/Zeroue.
The Frankman
Footballguy
This is going to be a headache situation to monitor. If Connor plays Samuels might be unplayable at RB, but if he gets 3rd down usage+, he could be playable at TE.
Willie Parker and Rashard Mendenhall mostly had the backfields to themselves as well.
I thought Samuels looked awesome today. Small sample size, but I don't think they have missed Conner any more than they have missed Bell. Another argument for the RB is essentially meaningless crowd.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Jaylen looked good, but I'd tap the breaks a bit. This is a historically bad NE rush D. Think they gave up 9ypc to Miami and like 7ypc to Vikings week before that. Even Ridley ripped off a 15-yarder.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
This was my thinking in preseason but after seeing Conner and him being better then I thought he would I don’t really believe this anymore. As I Samuels owner in multiple dynasty I’d be fine with it tho lol
He did great running the ball but my favorite play was easily the third down catch late in the game where he made a play that im not sure many later round rookies make. Didn’t have anyone to pass block and saw Ben was running out of time, took off and got past his guy and then went 5-6 yards past the marker and made himself available for Ben to throw too. Most guys might have kept moving to pick up extra yardage but Samuels stopped so Ben had an easier throw plus it didn’t take him towards more defenders.
