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@Duckboy I think I took your pre-selection

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Nice turn duckboy...miller with a full season of Watson should be nasty...i was gonna take him but he shares a bye w dalvin cook....

Bass......not sure about that doyle pick

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1 hour ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Nice turn duckboy...miller with a full season of Watson should be nasty...i was gonna take him but he shares a bye w dalvin cook....

Bass......not sure about that doyle pick

just IMO....I think Foreman will be the back to own in HOU this year...

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7 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

just IMO....I think Foreman will be the back to own in HOU this year...

Nah. Coming off. Torn achilles is a death blow to rbs

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11 minutes ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Nah. Coming off. Torn achilles is a death blow to rbs

I could be wrong for sure...but what little I saw of Miller last year wasn't that great....I think the team was ready to pass the torch before Foreman got hurt.....to me Miller seems to have hit the wall and there is chance he gets cut after June as he is scheduled for $14 million over the next two years and HOU can save 5.25 mil cutting him in June...and quite honestly I have always liked Alfred Blue's game and he has played pretty well at times/better than Miller....I guess thats a long round about way of me saying MIller is kind of on my avoid list and definitely not something I would look at at the 4-5 turn....I am actually kind of surprised HOU didn't take a dart throw at RB in the draft with Miller struggling and most of the other RB's on the roster dinged up in some way...

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Well due to the watson trade they didnt have many picks...alfred blues game?  If donta was healthy id agree but that injury pretty much saps a rb of all his cutting ability

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3 hours ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Nice turn duckboy...miller with a full season of Watson should be nasty...i was gonna take him but he shares a bye w dalvin cook....

Bass......not sure about that doyle pick

Agreed on Watson. I went Wentz instead largely due to risk aversion (I think a sophomore slump by Watson is more of a risk than Wentz's injury) but was oh so close to taking him. Or cam for the Olsen/cam stack.

RBs suck here. So I'm going heavy on receiver with Antonio, Baldwin and D Thomas. 

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Probably a reach but I really like Cohen with Nagy especially in bestball and I couldn't guarantee he'd make it back to my 7th. 

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39 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

Probably a reach but I really like Cohen with Nagy especially in bestball and I couldn't guarantee he'd make it back to my 7th. 

He wouldn't 

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I almost took Edelman with my last pick....but i figured the qb run was comin

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Went for the ever popular my-backup-QB / backup RB serving as my rb1stack. :moneybag:

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Sorry I was slow on the pick on Saturday.  Son had an all-day try-out for lacrosse, so it slipped my mind and I was not on the phone much.

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I think eli is an,interesting pick....feels like goid value there

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Fournette, AJ Green, Del. Walker...IMHO, that was some pretty 'steady as she goes' drafting through opening 3 Rounds...

First tough decision came at 4.06/54th overall: I could feel the QB run coming. I hate that feeling because I hate drafting QB early, and I spend a lot of time evaluating mid level QB's with upside because of it...but with 20 picks between 4.06 and 5.11, I had to consider even some of those off-premium guys might be gone, because lately, that's just how these things go. Well, first I had to see if there was anything on the board that I'd be willing to make the sacrifice for...and truthfully, there wasn't...but I decided to gamble.

So I took Marvin Jones, who is no longer a sneaky WR3 who can give you WR2 value. I think he's come into his own, and I like the 1A/1B dynamic going on with him and Tate. Marvin seems to have more best ball potential to nut out here and there, vs Tate being more of a steady eddie...if I was waiting on QB until 5.11, that's what I was going to hang my hat on. Still felt weird taking Marvin Jones mid-Round 4. I wound up getting the QB1 I wanted in Rivers. I'm really enamored with him as that guy to wait on and grab. I am every year recently, and he's been part of every committee approach I've taken for several seasons, for better or for worse. This year, I think the Chargers D is going to do him a lot of favors, and I don't think the Chargers are built to ground and pound out a lead. I think they're geared to keep scoring. Hope I'm right.

It wasn't time to take a 2nd TE with Walker already on board and no Flex, even with TE premium. I like Marvin significantly better than any other non QB drafted between him and my 5.11 Rivers...as much as I like Rivers, there are non-premium QB's I would have liked more, who didn't fall - Cousins and Big Ben...but I could have taken Brady or Brees at 4.06...

Others thoughts on 2018 Marvin Jones? 

I got my steady eddie in the 6th, with Randall Cobb. I was impressed with Adams last year, and I think Jordy being out of there actually clears up some WR roles. Cobb just screams weekly 6-77-.5 at me, for whatever reason.  Steady WR3 with periodic WR2 upside in a 16-Team format, I think. Had Alex Collins fallen to me, I would have taken him. If Robert Woods hadn't gone a pick before mine, I would have strongly considered him vs Cobb...was hoping Dion Lewis would fall to me in Rd 7. I'm excited about the talent/opportunity matrix of Royce Freeman in Denver, though. Outside of Barkley, he's the RB I'm most eager to see play pro football. Hope I'm right.

Held my breath as I watched Hogan fall. Trying to grab him everywhere in best ball.

Could be doing better, but I'm doing OK.

 

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1 hour ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

I think eli is an,interesting pick....feels like goid value there

I was very close to picking him a few picks earlier, but felt the RB talent after Duke Johnson was getting really thin.  And yes, I am intrigued by him too.

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1 hour ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

I think eli is an,interesting pick....feels like goid value there

If I had known that he or Case Keenum would still have been there at the end of 7, I would not have gone back to back QB in 5 and 6.

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have Newton/Cousins on board....but at 8.13 with (7) teams (including Bass and Duckboy right behind me) only having 1 QB I seriously considered adding Dalton as a 3rd QB....I realize most of those (7) have a solid starter, but Dalton seemed the last of a steady QB2... 

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6 hours ago, Stinkin Ref said:

have Newton/Cousins on board....but at 8.13 with (7) teams (including Bass and Duckboy right behind me) only having 1 QB I seriously considered adding Dalton as a 3rd QB....I realize most of those (7) have a solid starter, but Dalton seemed the last of a steady QB2... 

I've considered that strategy too. But with being so light at RB it felt like sacrificing my own team. 

Hopefully Cohen, Lynch and Jamaal Williams are good enough with strength elsewhere.

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Shadowfax, you lucky bastard.

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QB - R. Wilson Sea (7)

RB - Alex Collins BLT (10), T. Coleman ATL (8) & Crowell NYJ (11)

WR - J. Jones ATL (8), M. Thomas NO (6), A. Robinson CHI (5) & P. Richardson WSH (4)

TE - C. Brate TB (5) & B. Watson NO (6)

Nice foundation with backups at all positions except quarterback and no bye week issues. That last turn fit my needs perfectly. I am a big fan of Richardson in Washington and Watson, although a little old is a smart and gritty player that excelled previously in New Orleans. Feel like I salvaged tight end position pretty well for waiting for Brate at TE15 & 7.16 and Watson at TE22 & 10.1. Obviously still need some depth at QB, RB and WR as well as DST & PK, but like this squad at this point.

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Good morning, comet...you dick.

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33 minutes ago, nittanylion said:

Good morning, comet...you dick.

 

Hey Nit.... You ###### :)

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Lol...nice smack talk....

QB  - Matt ryan. Jamies winston

RB - Dalvin cook. Jay Ajayi. Corey Clement

WR - Kenan Allen. Martavius bryant. Marqis goodwin. Josh doctson

TE - Jimmy graham

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4.14    Newton, Cam CAR QB7   
5.03    Cousins, Kirk MIN QB9   

Haven't gone QB early really in many of the survivors so thought I'd switch it up.  Being at the top end of the draft kind of dictates that you make the QB move at 4-5 turn if you want to have two above avg/no questions/solid guys.  Would have taken Rodgers in the third if Bass didn't and then probably waited. Would have also taken Brady or Watson in the 4th. This combo should be alright. Need to get above avg ROI here.

1.03    Johnson, David ARI RB3    
2.14    McKinnon, Jerick SFO RB14   

DJ should be the focus and receive a massive amount of touches.  My eyebrows raised when I saw McKinnon go to a Shanny offense and then it really got my attention when they did nothing in the draft at RB.  Should be in line for a high volume of carries and receptions. Pulling the trigger early here allows to forget about the position for a bit and just try to scrape together a couple of flyers later. Will need above avg ROI here as well. 

3.03    Diggs, Stefon MIN WR13    
7.03    Bryant, Dez DAL WR36    
8.14    Sanders, Emmanuel DEN WR46    
9.03    Moore, D.J. CAR WR48

Kind of all over the place here.  Diggs should be fine.  Bryant will sign somewhere and probably play with a serious chip on his shoulder wherever it is, I'll gamble in the 7th. Sanders should return to form with better QB play.  Hope to hit pay dirt with the rookie/Newton combo a few times. There were safer picks, but said screw it. The news about CJA also broke while I was OTC here so I could have went that direction but with Dez a ? I needed to WR.  Going RB 1-2 made CJA a luxury I couldn't afford. 

6.14    Burton, Trey CHI TE11  

I think there is a reason Nagy targeted Burton even though the team already had Shaheen and Sims. .

Sniped several times by Bass and Shadowfax.  First was Hill, then Rodgers, then Watson, then Eifert.

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QB - Trubisky and Wentz

Should challenge for the top QB duo. I think Mitch steps up in his 2nd year and gets a much better offensive coordinator, along with new tools.  Wentz should challenge for MVP again.

RB - Lynch, Cohen, Jamaal Williams

Ugly. But Cohen and Williams should have a few good games. Hoping Lynch has legs left and his line play better than last year.

WR - Brown, Baldwin, DT, Hurns

Probably one of the best quartets. I'm not 100% sold on Hurns being the top receiver in Dallas but the opportunity is there and had to take it in the 10th round.

TE - Olsen

If healthy he should be a top 5 TE. I'll add depth later. 

Overall - my backs are ugly. Any of those guys make a good rb2 or 3 but not a 1. The rest of the team makes up for it on paper. I think....

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1 hour ago, -OZ- said:

QB - Trubisky and Wentz

Should challenge for the top QB duo. I think Mitch steps up in his 2nd year and gets a much better offensive coordinator, along with new tools.  Wentz should challenge for MVP again.

RB - Lynch, Cohen, Jamaal Williams

Ugly. But Cohen and Williams should have a few good games. Hoping Lynch has legs left and his line play better than last year.

WR - Brown, Baldwin, DT, Hurns

Probably one of the best quartets. I'm not 100% sold on Hurns being the top receiver in Dallas but the opportunity is there and had to take it in the 10th round.

TE - Olsen

If healthy he should be a top 5 TE. I'll add depth later. 

Overall - my backs are ugly. Any of those guys make a good rb2 or 3 but not a 1. The rest of the team makes up for it on paper. I think....

Thankful that you drafted WR in the fifth (as well as other folks selections) so I cold get Collins and T. Coleman at the 5/6 turn

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Brew, you are a real pain in the Bass.

Lockett and Ginn?!?!?! Swell...

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13 hours ago, nittanylion said:

Brew, you are a real pain in the Bass.

Lockett and Ginn?!?!?! Swell...

May have reached on Meredith earlier. Wanted Ginn to lock up the weekly NO wr2 production. There will be plenty of better picks like whoever gets Jax wr1 but I couldn’t afford a swing and miss after neglecting WR early in the draft

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Would have taken McDonald but Ref screwed ne there

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On 5/8/2018 at 8:54 AM, Reaper said:

 

Hey Nit.... You ###### :)

We're even, Ty Montgomey 

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QB - R. Wilson Sea (7)

RB - Alex Collins BLT (10), T. Coleman ATL (8) & Crowell NYJ (11)

WR - J. Jones ATL (8), M. Thomas NO (6), A. Robinson CHI (5) & P. Richardson WSH (4)

TE - C. Brate TB (5) & B. Watson NO (6)

PK - Lutz NO (6) & Tucker BLT (10)

In the 18-man roster, I love the advantage of two solid kickers early in the pre-season. Anything can happen and one of these guys could get the boot, but feel like the percentages are lower with these two than many other PKs drafted later. Tighter squads with only 18 and minimal room for error. Also thought that it was awesome getting these two right after Butker and Butt were selected.

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and before I can return to update my draft dominator file, five straight PKs drafted. Get them while they are hot and for sure before they are not.

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13 minutes ago, Stephen Holloway said:

and before I can return to update my draft dominator file, five straight PKs drafted. Get them while they are hot and for sure before they are not.

meh...good try...I'm not going to fall for it and be a part of letting all the good stuff fall back to you now that you just hammered out back to back picks on them...but please everybody else keep picking them....

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19 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

meh...good try...I'm not going to fall for it and be a part of letting all the good stuff fall back to you now that you just hammered out back to back picks on them...but please everybody else keep picking them....

Up to six in a row and 9 out of the last 13 picks. 

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Holloway, while I have you here, I'm a HUGE fan of Razorbacks Men's basketball, since the late 80's-early 90's. Assuming you are, as well, do you have any inside local scoop on why CJ Jones and Darius Hall transferred out, especially after lots of minutes were created with so many Seniors graduating? Man, am I going to miss the Macon/Barford/Beard backcourt. So glad Gafford decided to return for his Sophomore season...was really hoping those two were going to be a big part of 2018.

Thanks!

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Up to 8 in a row and 11 of 15, but Sweet Love ended the fun with a hope and a prayer for targets in Tennessee

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4 minutes ago, nittanylion said:

Holloway, while I have you here, I'm a HUGE fan of Razorbacks Men's basketball, since the late 80's-early 90's. Assuming you are, as well, do you have any inside local scoop on why CJ Jones and Darius Hall transferred out, especially after lots of minutes were created with so many Seniors graduating? Man, am I going to miss the Macon/Barford/Beard backcourt. So glad Gafford decided to return for his Sophomore season...was really hoping those two were going to be a big part of 2018.

Thanks!

I am an Arkansas alumnus class of 1977, so I was in school when Coach Eddie Sutton turned the program around a put us on the basketball map. I will always cherish memories of the triplets (Sidney Moncrief, Ron Brewer and Marvin Delph) all from Arkansas seen in person while in school. I just don't like basketball as much as I once did and perhaps it is because our team that was so good has not been above mediocre in a long time. I don't really have access to local stories since I moved out of state, but even though Coach Anderson is seen to be a good recruiter, there have been really good in-state players leave for other SEC schools. And I just don't see player growth or teaching going on. In Arkansas, we just don't have that many talented high schoolers to allow the cream of the crop to leave. And those two you mentioned transferring out when playing time appeared to be coming is not good. Most say we again had a very good recruiting season so perhaps there is hope.

I used to be excited for basketball in October. Since I moved out of state and we have not been as good, I really don't pay attention till conference play starts in January. Lately, I have watched a game or two at the most before the tournaments. I still like the game, but I just don't see us playing smart. It has been so long since we had a team that could execute in the half court. If we are not making steals and fast breaking or hitting threes, we are down and out.

When and how did you become a Razorback basketball fan?

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Moar kickers!

:shrug: I needed one and the running backs are barely dart throws now.

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22 hours ago, -OZ- said:

Moar kickers!

:shrug: I needed one and the running backs are barely dart throws now.

But the QBs were better than dart throws. I could resist for worse or much worse

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