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Supreme Court Rules Sports Betting Legal (1 Viewer)

Great news for states, excellent revenue stream for them on money that their residents were already spending. Suck it bookies.

 
Anyone seen a site/map/whatever that indicates what states are liable to offer legal wagering in light of this?

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Anyone seen a site/map/whatever that indicates what states are liable to offer legal wagering in light of this?
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https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/01/09/sports-betting-gambling-legalize-states-bills

From the article

"The report listed 11 states as having a good chance of enacting sports betting bills this year: Massachusetts; Rhode Island; New York; New Jersey; West Virginia; Ohio; Michigan; Illinois; Oklahoma; Kentucky and Indiana.

It also listed states where the introduction, much less adoption, of a sports betting bill is considered unlikely: Tennessee; Alabama; Arkansas; Texas; Kansas; Nebraska; North and South Dakota; Wyoming; Utah; Idaho; Alaska and Hawaii."

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What is the name of the case? Trying to understand why the U.S. Supreme Court would have heard a case about sports betting ... but I can look up the case and read the background.

 
From the SI article linked upthread:

The U.S. Supreme Court this year will decide a case brought by New Jersey that seeks to overturn a ban on sports betting in all but four states: Delaware, Montana, Nevada and Oregon. A favorable ruling in that case could open the floodgates in terms of states adopting a new form of gambling.

“Assuming a Supreme Court decision or action by Congress permits it, we could see the largest simultaneous expansion of regulated gambling in U.S. history with sports betting in 2018,” said Chris Grove, the company’s managing director.

The court is expected by June to decide New Jersey’s case, which seeks to overturn a ban on sports betting by any state that did not meet a 1991 deadline to legalize it. States and private companies in the U.S. and abroad are already moving quickly to position themselves for a favorable ruling.
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I hadn't realized there was a federal ban on sports betting -- thought for sure that was regulated solely at the state level.

 
Smack Tripper said:
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/01/09/sports-betting-gambling-legalize-states-bills

From the article

"The report listed 11 states as having a good chance of enacting sports betting bills this year: Massachusetts; Rhode Island; New York; New Jersey; West Virginia; Ohio; Michigan; Illinois; Oklahoma; Kentucky and Indiana.

It also listed states where the introduction, much less adoption, of a sports betting bill is considered unlikely: Tennessee; Alabama; Arkansas; Texas; Kansas; Nebraska; North and South Dakota; Wyoming; Utah; Idaho; Alaska and Hawaii."

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From the article..

Pennsylvania and Conn have already passed bills.

 
can some one unpack this for me?

Does this mean gambling will be controlled by the states(like the lottery) or does it mean private business can legally start up and just be regulated by state law?

 
NewlyRetired said:
can some one unpack this for me?

Does this mean gambling will be controlled by the states(like the lottery) or does it mean private business can legally start up and just be regulated by state law?
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As I understand it, that will be a state by state issue to decide.  From what I've heard in Jersey, the plan is to have it first and maybe only at gambling facilities which includes atlantic city but also Monmouth Park Horse Track and presumably the Meadowlands Racetrack.  However, the meadowlands may be murky due to the literal proximity to MetLife where the Jets and Giants play.  I'd hazard a guess if they follow the vegas model, you won't be able to bet the Jets and Giants at all there, at least when they're home?   Perhaps the NFL will be able to put the Kibosh on it all.

 
Smack Tripper said:
and obvoiusly nevada was legal, and I think they said there was sports betting currently in Montana and Delaware for the record
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States were limited to the sports betting they had legalized prior to the 1991 federal law, which is why Delaware can currently offer only those crappy parlay cards. Delaware will be moving fast to go with full-on sports books

 
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Smack Tripper said:
As I understand it, that will be a state by state issue to decide.  From what I've heard in Jersey, the plan is to have it first and maybe only at gambling facilities which includes atlantic city but also Monmouth Park Horse Track and presumably the Meadowlands Racetrack.  However, the meadowlands may be murky due to the literal proximity to MetLife where the Jets and Giants play.  I'd hazard a guess if they follow the vegas model, you won't be able to bet the Jets and Giants at all there, at least when they're home?   Perhaps the NFL will be able to put the Kibosh on it all.
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You have to think states will move to offering the ability to bet online, seems like wasted revenue not to get there as soon as possible.

 
NewlyRetired said:
can some one unpack this for me?

Does this mean gambling will be controlled by the states(like the lottery) or does it mean private business can legally start up and just be regulated by state law?
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That will probably be left up to the states.  If it is like the lottery, which I think is most likely, then this is not going to make a difference for the serious sports bettor, because of the high juice.

For example, Canada has "sports lottery".  They make you parlay 2 or 3 games depending on the bet type, and the juice is something like -140.  They do post the odds at the beginning of the day, so occasionally you get a good line, but they can take any game off the board that they want.

 
The actual name of the case is Murphy vs NCAA. It was a lot harder to dig up than I expected -- had to go to scotusblog.com. No news article about the ruling seems to refer to Murphy at all.

 
CNN said controlled by states now unless Congress steps in and decides to regulate.

When is SCOTUS going to rule on who's hottest?

 
I would assume Michigan would legalize it at casinos and maybe tracks for horses pretty soon since we already have all the infrastructure basically in place.

 
Ilov80s said:
I would assume Michigan would legalize it at casinos and maybe tracks for horses pretty soon since we already have all the infrastructure basically in place.
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Judging by how they treated Hazel Park racetrack, I would guess the big casino "influence" makes them the best bet to get the prize.

 
Thorpe said:
That will probably be left up to the states.  If it is like the lottery, which I think is most likely, then this is not going to make a difference for the serious sports bettor, because of the high juice.

For example, Canada has "sports lottery".  They make you parlay 2 or 3 games depending on the bet type, and the juice is something like -140.  They do post the odds at the beginning of the day, so occasionally you get a good line, but they can take any game off the board that they want.
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I think what states do might vary but New Jersey it is going to be full on sports books. 

The Canada model is what they have in Delaware (but only because that is what was legal under the old law - the 4 states that were allowed to have sports gambling were restricted to what they had previously offered - which in Delaware's case was though parlay style tickets and nothing else.

Vegas books will feel a hit on this for sure

-QG

 
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