2018 rookie pick 2.01 post NFL draft (Closed) (1 Viewer)

The purpose of these polls is to get an idea of who the majority of voters prefer at a specific pick in a rookie draft. These drafts assume that all 2018 rookie players are available. For the 2QB poll there may be some variance in scoring. Some may be standard, others PPR. I think a lot of 2QB leagues may involve IDP as well so these differences are not accounted for here. Only looking at the offensive skill players in the two most common formats and also 2QB leagues, to get a sense of where the QB are valued relative to other positions, when there is actually scarcity at the QB position. For the TE premium poll this assumes the scoring format is PPR because that is what these leagues almost always are. The polls assume 12 teams and likely 24-26 roster spots as the most common format for dynasty. Short bench dynasty leagues should only care about the top 6-12 rookie players.

If a player isn't listed that you would vote for please vote other and then post the name of the player that you voted for so that player can be added to the next poll. Also please suggest players not listed that you would vote for soon, even if not on the particular poll that is active.

I am populating the polls based off of miqws list

Discussion welcome.Thanks for voting.

Results

Standard

Saquon Barkley 79.6% with 50 votes

Derrius Guice 52.7% with 63 votes

Rashaad Penny 36.5% with 79 votes

Nick Chubb 65.2% with 51 votes

Ronald Jones 43.5% with 53 votes

Sony Michel 49% with 59 votes

Royce Freeman 44% with 54 votes

Kerryon Johnson 46% with 46 votes

DJ Moore 52.6% with 41 votes

Calvin Ridley 31.6% with 41 votes

Courtland Sutton 25.6% with 45 votes

Christian Kirk 44.1% with 39 votes 

Anthony Miller 28.6% with 46 votes

PPR

Saquon Barkley 95.5% with 50 votes

Derrius Guice 43.6% with 63 votes

Rashaad Penny 41.9% with 79 votes

Nick Chubb 43.5% with 51 votes

Ronald Jones 47.8% with 53 votes

Sony Michel 70.6% with 59 votes

DJ Moore 48% with 54 votes

Kerryon Johnson 29.7% with 46 votes

Royce Freeman 57.9% with 41 votes

Calvin Ridley 55.3% with 41 votes

Courtland Sutton 39.5% with 45 votes

Christian Kirk 61.8% with 39 votes 

Anthony Miller 38.1% with 46 votes

2QB Leagues

Saquon Barkley 69.4% with 50 votes

Derrius Guice 25.5% with 63 votes

Rashaad Penny 23% with 79 votes

Nick Chubb 19.6% with 51 votes

Baker Mayfield 18.6% with 53 votes

Lamar Jackson 11.8% with 59 votes

Josh Rosen 22% with 54 votes

Ronald Jones 24.3% with 46 votes

Sam Darnold 24.7% with 41 votes

Sony Michel 31.6% with 41 votes

DJ Moore 14% with 45 votes (Tie with Josh Allen broken based on miqws list)

Royce Freeman 29.4% with 39 votes (Curious that support for Allen waned)

Calvin Ridley 16.7% with 46 votes

TE Premium Leagues

Saquon Barkley 75.5% with 50 votes

Derrius Guice 38.2% with 63 votes

Rashaad Penny 41.9% with 79 votes

Nick Chubb 27.5% with 51 votes

Sony Michel 26% with 53 votes

Ronald Jones 41.1% with 59 votes

DJ Moore 24% with 54 votes

Kerryon Johnson 27% with 46 votes

Royce Freeman 39.5% with 41 votes

Mike Gesicki  23.7% with 41 votes

Christian Kirk 16.7% with 45 votes

Dallas Goedert 17.7% with 39 votes

Calvin Ridley 21.4% with 46 votes

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It doesn't get posted often enough, but thanks Bia for running these polls.  It's an extensive undertaking, and very valuable to our summer conversations here in the Pool.

What do people think of Dallas Goedert winning pick 12 in the TE premium poll over some very good WR such as Calvin Ridley and Anthony Miller still available? Also all of the QB still being available and 1st round pick Hayden Hurst also still available.

I would love to hear some thoughts on that from some of the folks who voted for Goedert in the previous poll.

I also found it interesting that support for Josh Allen didn't increase after he almost won the poll at pick 11 in the 2 QB poll. What I am guessing happened there is people were split in their support of DJ Moore and Royce Freeman (as well as Allen) but then when Moore won that poll by tie breaker those voters must have shifted to Freeman who won pick 12 poll two to one over Allen.

Biabreakable said:

What do people think of Dallas Goedert winning pick 12 in the TE premium poll over some very good WR such as Calvin Ridley and Anthony Miller still available? Also all of the QB still being available and 1st round pick Hayden Hurst also still available.

I would love to hear some thoughts on that from some of the folks who voted for Goedert in the previous poll.

I also found it interesting that support for Josh Allen didn't increase after he almost won the poll at pick 11 in the 2 QB poll. What I am guessing happened there is people were split in their support of DJ Moore and Royce Freeman (as well as Allen) but then when Moore won that poll by tie breaker those voters must have shifted to Freeman who won pick 12 poll two to one over Allen.

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i was surprised.  in my two 1.25 ppr te leagues he has gone pick 21 and 22

Goedert was my TE1 coming into the draft, but he's dropped to the second tier given the landing spot.  Can't see him getting the volume to compete in PPR formats with the likes of Miller or Ridley.  Very surprising.

I suspect a lot of poll voters see "TE premium" and overvalue TEs compared to what they'd actually pull the trigger on during a draft. 

Hurst's slip is understandable.  His 1st round value was diminished with the selection of a perceived better pass catcher later.  Shades of a Howard/Brate split would have me avoiding both of them till the safer WR tier is exhausted.

Arodin said:

Goedert was my TE1 coming into the draft, but he's dropped to the second tier given the landing spot.  Can't see him getting the volume to compete in PPR formats with the likes of Miller or Ridley.  

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Thats my view of this as well. 

For a player to really provide a marginal advantage over others at 2 points per game would mean Goedert would need 30 more receptions than the WR to achieve that. 

Unless Ertz is injured, I just done see how this is going to happen in the next 3 season.

If he gets 40 receptions at 1.5 per thats 60 points, which 60 receptions seems pretty achievable for Ridley or Miller, even as rookies. I think they have a better chance for more than that and more points than I see for Goedert 

In my TE premium, TEs are going much later. Case in point - ME.  I need TEs in the worst way, and still I drafted Nyheim Hines with the 2.04; and, I selected Antonio Callaway and John Kelly with 3rd round picks.

TE Picks in 2018 draft:

2.05 Gesicki, Mike MIA TE
2.11 Goedert, Dallas PHI TE
2.13 Hurst, Hayden BAL TE
3.11 Thomas, Ian CAR TE
3.12 Andrews, Mark BAL TE
4.08 Schultz, Dalton DAL TE


ETA: New owner received incentive picks 1.13, 2.13, 3.13 and 4.13 to take ownership of a crappy roster. Essentially, Mark Andrews was the 4.02 pick in this 12-team league.

I do like Dallas Goedert though. I nearly drafted him instead of Hines.