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Terrell Owens to Skip HOF Induction Ceremony

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That's bogus.

Is it called "The Hall Of Fame" or is it called "The Hall Of Fame But Only If You Show Up".

Don't sink to TO's level. Honor the man just like you'd honor anyone else who wasn't there.

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I've moved firmly into the "I Don't Give a Crap Either Way" camp.

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I approve of this.

Don't want to show up because you are being a crybaby, then you don't get recognized.  Works for me. 

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On 6/8/2018 at 8:54 AM, Dr. Octopus said:

With the NFL only five players can go in during each class of inductees. Owens is without a doubt a Hall of Famer but having had to wait until his third year is hardly a slight.

Backlogged position or not, when statistically you're in a far and distant top 3 all-time, he has a legitimate gripe. IMO.

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8 hours ago, ShamrockPride said:

Backlogged position or not, when statistically you're in a far and distant top 3 all-time, he has a legitimate gripe. IMO.

Absolutely. He could be argued as the best receiver of all time. When you look at his peak years, the QBs he was stuck with, what he did in the SB on one leg, and even his final season it clearly puts him ahead of Moss. Rice was just as dominant, did it longer, and didn't disrupt the team but he had better QB to work with. 

I mean at age 37 he was on pace for like a 1200/10 season before getting hurt. Who was the other WR on that team? He was basically a dominant WR1 at age 37. Rice pulled some of these super human feats off too but Moss did not. Moss quit when he had to play with terrible QB. TO never quit.  

 

TO will regret not going to the HOF ceremony but he no doubt should have been a 1st ballot HOF so he has a legit gripe. 

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11 minutes ago, Milkman said:

Absolutely. He could be argued as the best receiver of all time. When you look at his peak years, the QBs he was stuck with, what he did in the SB on one leg, and even his final season it clearly puts him ahead of Moss. Rice was just as dominant, did it longer, and didn't disrupt the team but he had better QB to work with. 

I mean at age 37 he was on pace for like a 1200/10 season before getting hurt. Who was the other WR on that team? He was basically a dominant WR1 at age 37. Rice pulled some of these super human feats off too but Moss did not. Moss quit when he had to play with terrible QB. TO never quit.  

 

TO will regret not going to the HOF ceremony but he no doubt should have been a 1st ballot HOF so he has a legit grip. 

Not sure he has a 'legit grip' on anything.

:P

 

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25 minutes ago, identikit said:

Not sure he has a 'legit grip' on anything.

:P

 

lol ooops

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11 hours ago, Ghost Rider said:

I approve of this.

Don't want to show up because you are being a crybaby, then you don't get recognized.  Works for me. 

If I throw a party and one of the main invitees does not want to show up, the most polite thing would be not to even mention his name.

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HoF acting like a buncha third graders.

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It's almost like a "Seinfeld" routine:

Jerry (T.O.): "I won't be attending the event."

Store Manager (HOF): "May I ask why?"

Jerry (T.O.): "For spite."

Store Manager (HOF): "I'm afraid that 'spite' doesn't fit into any of our reasons for not attending."

Jerry (T.O.): "Well, so fine, then. Then......I have a prior commitment...and that's why I won't be attending!"

Store Manager (HOF): "You already said 'spite'. Too late!"

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In my experience, people who tend to act like d-bags usually get treated like d-bags. Not saying the NFL shouldn't take the high road, but it shouldn't be a surprise to T.O. if the NFL leaves him out of the ceremony if it is a ceremony that he chooses not to attend.

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1 hour ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

This thread is proof that people will argue anything and everything. Our world is in a sad state. Does anyone work for a living? 

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4 hours ago, Chaka said:

HoF acting like a buncha third graders.

This may be the most ironic statement in the history of irony.

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5 hours ago, Chaka said:

HoF acting like a buncha third graders.

They managed to make TO a sympathetic figure. Not easy.

They could have easily issued a brief statement, saying they respected his decision, and will still honor him, and yada yada yada.  Defuse it, make the focus be how childish TO is, and win the PR battle.

So dumb.  

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I don't get the controversy here. TO was voted in to the HoF. He is refusing the induction ceremony therefor won't be part of the induction ceremony. What is the confusion here? 

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2 hours ago, TripItUp said:

Both parties come off terrible here.

I expected more from the NFL, even though I shouldn't have.

 

The HoF was going to give him the jacket and the spotlight he so badly craves to make a speech in front of the crowd and on TV and he gave them the middle finger.  I said it before - you reap what you sow.  He’s getting his just desserts.  There’s one person to blame here, as it always is with him - himself.

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3 hours ago, Bronco Billy said:

 

The HoF was going to give him the jacket and the spotlight he so badly craves to make a speech in front of the crowd and on TV and he gave them the middle finger.  I said it before - you reap what you sow.  He’s getting his just desserts.  There’s one person to blame here, as it always is with him - himself.

That doesn't negate the fact that the HOF and NFL come off equally childish.  They need to hold themselves to a higher standard.

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33 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

That doesn't negate the fact that the HOF and NFL come off equally childish.  They need to hold themselves to a higher standard.

He turned the induction down. If anything, they are respecting his wishes. 

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Owens has no quibble whatsoever. 

He wanted to be in the Hall of Fame. 

He is now in the Hall of Fame (or will be soon when it's official).

He is giving the Hall of Fame the middle finger by refusing to show up.

He is giving his fellow inductees the middle finger by doing his own personal induction clown show on the same day. 

Owens was always a me-first guy who did what wanted to do, regardless of how it affected others, so this is him staying true to form.  This is who TO is and has always been: a selfish jack ###. 

The sad thing is, given what an emotional guy he is, he probably could have won a lot of people with a heartfelt speech at the HOF where he thanked the many people who helped get him to where he ended up, the football HOF.  Instead, he is now a joke, a caricature, a laughingstock. 

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8 hours ago, TripItUp said:

That doesn't negate the fact that the HOF and NFL come off equally childish.  They need to hold themselves to a higher standard.

 

I disagree.  I think their reaction is spot on.

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It could be argued TO, when playing, was the most valuable player in this class......

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2 hours ago, Milkman said:

It could argued TO, when playing, was the most valuable player in this class......

Over Ray Lewis??!! Can I have what you’re smoking? 

Moss is another who I personally rank higher than TO but that one could be argued. However, TO more valuable than Ray Ray??  Nah. I can’t see an argument for that. 

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10 hours ago, Milkman said:

It could argued TO, when playing, was the most valuable player in this class......

 

If your only qualifier is stats, maybe.  There’s a lot more to football than that, though.  

 

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Getting exactly what he deserves and he'll still never get it. Has to be miserable living like that. Friendless and alone. 

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7 hours ago, flapgreen said:

Getting exactly what he deserves and he'll still never get it. Has to be miserable living like that. Friendless and alone. 

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.  Owens fit that description to a 't.'  Must be hell living with himself. 

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Seems like a decent guy every time I've met him (3). Seems ok on Twitter too. That he goes against authority isn't very rare. If I put 110% into my job and some pencil pushers decided I was not worth anything I would probably not be associated with them either. Live your life TO just like they do. 

Neither of these took the high road. One went low and the other went lower. Nobody wins and their continued hatred of TO will only make their life more miserable too I guess.

TO was first ballot worthy and they made their pedestrian point and made him wait. He responded how he knows. They all got what they deserved. Don't think for a minute a lot of these Hof people won't carry this to their grave. 

TO will move along to the next disagreement and forget about this one.

 

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3 hours ago, Slider said:

Seems like a decent guy every time I've met him (3). Seems ok on Twitter too. That he goes against authority isn't very rare. If I put 110% into my job and some pencil pushers decided I was not worth anything I would probably not be associated with them either. Live your life TO just like they do. 

Neither of these took the high road. One went low and the other went lower. Nobody wins and their continued hatred of TO will only make their life more miserable too I guess.

TO was first ballot worthy and they made their pedestrian point and made him wait. He responded how he knows. They all got what they deserved. Don't think for a minute a lot of these Hof people won't carry this to their grave. 

TO will move along to the next disagreement and forget about this one.

 

The voters are different from those who run the Hall of Fame and organize the ceremony.  HTH. 

TO will move to the next disagreement?  Of course he will, because he is not happy unless he is playing the victim and crying about something.   Knowing Owens, had he been voted in two years ago, he would have decided not to go once he found out that Brett Favre was going on stage after him, because, as always, he is not happy unless he is an axe to grind. 

Also, voting someone into the Hall of Fame means you think they are worth nothing?  That is quite a hot take. :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

The voters are different from those who run the Hall of Fame and organize the ceremony.  HTH. 

TO will move to the next disagreement?  Of course he will, because he is not happy unless he is playing the victim and crying about something

Also, voting someone into the Hall of Fame means you think they are worth nothing?  That is quite a hot take. :lol: 

Yeah, it's writers that are on the selection committee. Pencil pushers

How do you know he isn't happy and thrives on the disagreements?

And yeah, making him wait a year was clearly just an abuse of power and pedestrian. It's what caused his reaction.

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24 minutes ago, Slider said:

Yeah, it's writers that are on the selection committee. Pencil pushers

How do you know he isn't happy and thrives on the disagreements?

And yeah, making him wait a year was clearly just an abuse of power and pedestrian. It's what caused his reaction.

BFD. 

The Hall is loaded with players who felt like they should have been voted in earlier than they were. 

And guess what? Not a single one of them threw a fit and decided not to show up to the induction ceremony. 

The media sucks...yeah, most of us know that already.  But when you are voted into the Hall of Fame, you go, which is why every single player in NFL history (who was alive and well enough to attend) has gone...until now. 

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13 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

BFD. 

The Hall is loaded with players who felt like they should have been voted in earlier than they were. 

And guess what? Not a single one of them threw a fit and decided not to show up to the induction ceremony. 

The media sucks...yeah, most of us know that already.  But when you are voted into the Hall of Fame, you go, which is why every single player in NFL history (who was alive and well enough to attend) has gone...until now. 

I know from seeing your posts that you just like to argue. 

If every first ballot guy was made to wait until his second year because of some personality issue with a few writers, we would probably see quite a bit more of this. 

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38 minutes ago, Slider said:

I know from seeing your posts that you just like to argue. 

If every first ballot guy was made to wait until his second year because of some personality issue with a few writers, we would probably see quite a bit more of this. 

 

Owens was made to wait because of his own actions throughout his career.  I can’t think of one guy with his level of ability who displayed as much selfishness and divisiveness as Owens did - not even remotely close.  I wish people would stop making excuses for him or simply dismissing his incredibly poor behavior throughout his career.  He brought this on himself.  This isn’t some kind of random witch hunt.  Owens earned this all on his own.  

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1 hour ago, Slider said:

I know from seeing your posts that you just like to argue. 

No, I like a good discussion or even a good disagreement.  This is a discussion forum, after all.

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3 hours ago, Slider said:

Yeah, it's writers that are on the selection committee. Pencil pushers

How do you know he isn't happy and thrives on the disagreements?

And yeah, making him wait a year was clearly just an abuse of power and pedestrian. It's what caused his reaction.

Art Monk retired as the all-time leading receiver in NFL history. He waited 8 years. TO can go #### himself is his feelings are hurt about not being first ballot. 

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8 hours ago, Slider said:

Yeah, it's writers that are on the selection committee. Pencil pushers

How do you know he isn't happy and thrives on the disagreements?

And yeah, making him wait a year was clearly just an abuse of power and pedestrian. It's what caused his reaction.

An abuse of power? Wtf???? It’s their HOF. :lmao:

 

 

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On 7/14/2018 at 1:02 PM, Milkman said:

It could be argued TO, when playing, was the most valuable player in this class......

Sure it could be argued, but it would be wrong. T.O. wasn't even the most valuable player on his own team in this class. Dawkins was more valuable to the Eagles than T.O. The Eagles got to 5 conference championships and 1 Super Bowl with Dawkins. Yes, the year they went to the Super Bowl, T.O. was on the team, but remember he got hurt late in the season and didn't even play in the playoff games that got the Eagles to the Super Bowl. Dawkins was the ultimate "Team" guy, T.O. was not.

T.O. had 3 playoff games in his playoff career where he had at least 100 yards receiving. Two of those were great games, the 2002 game against the Giants, and the 2004 Super Bowl against the Patriots. In his other 9 playoff games, T.O. had 30 catches for 352 yards. That averages out to 3.3 catches for 38 yards a game. More often than not, he did not come up big when it mattered the most.

I think T.O. deserves to be in the HOF. He didn't get elected on the first ballot because he is a horse's ### to deal with. But so what? There is no special section in the Hall of Fame for first ballot inductees. You are either in the Hall of Fame or you are not. He is in. Most people, like myself, think he should enjoy that the way everyone else does. I think the HOF is leaving him out of the ceremony not necessarily to punish him, but out of respect for the inductees who will be honored. I am sure they would rather not waste any time in the ceremony honoring a guy who chose not to show up.

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Bad apple and he thinks everyone else is the problem. 

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I don't understand why people care so much if he shows up or not. Who cares?  It's his life and he's a grown man (maturity wise debatable) who's earned his place in the Hall of Fame.  If he doesn't want to be a part of the ceremony that's his decision to make even if the reasons are silly at best.  For the Hall of Fame to completely ignore his election to the Hall at the ceremony makes them equally as childish as TO.  You spend 30 seconds mention his name, his accomplishments and move on...be the bigger person(group) here. 

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