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Terrell Owens to Skip HOF Induction Ceremony

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1 minute ago, Hankmoody said:

That was the voters, not the organization itself.  You do realize that 46/48 of the voters are sportswriters, not people affiliated with the HOF?

Right and the writers regularly blasted him. Since they're the voters, they're an extension of the HOF. The 53 or so employees at the HOF mean little really.

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11 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

I’m just not seeing how the Hall it Fame disrespected him. I mean they are inducting him after all. It took many many players multiple years to finally get in - mostly because there is a backlog. Only five players/coaches/excutives can get in with each class. He wait was relatively short all things considered. He’s still a young man and will now be a HoFer for a long long time.

You can't see it because there is nothing to see.  Of course the HOF didn't disrespect Terrell Owens, and it is asinine for anyone to suggest that they did. 

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3 minutes ago, Slider said:

Right and the writers regularly blasted him. Since they're the voters, they're an extension of the HOF. The 53 or so employees at the HOF mean little really.

Except that the HOF employees, not the voters, are the ones that put on the presentation. 

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29 minutes ago, Hankmoody said:

Except that the HOF employees, not the voters, are the ones that put on the presentation. 

I'm done here. 

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I don't understand the reconsider argument.  He declined the invitation.  To me that means the invitation is no longer open. 

 

If I invite you to something and you R.S.V.P. that you are not attending you do not then get to decide that yes, after all you are coming.  the invitation is no longer open.  It is not up to you, it is now up to me to re-extend the invitation if I care to do so.  Is this invitation open after being declined?

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19 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

I don't understand the reconsider argument.  He declined the invitation.  To me that means the invitation is no longer open. 

 

If I invite you to something and you R.S.V.P. that you are not attending you do not then get to decide that yes, after all you are coming.  the invitation is no longer open.  It is not up to you, it is now up to me to re-extend the invitation if I care to do so.  Is this invitation open after being declined?

Pretend for a moment it's not someone you despise.  That's how true professionals work.  They don't hold petty grudges.  Of course the invite isn't rescinded it would be bush league to do so and only a buffoon would uninvite someone out of spite to try to save face.  There are 7 other guys being inducted, they can proceed with all of the activities as normal and announce TO at every step.  If he's not there the only difference is there's no one standing there waving to the crowd or putting on a jacket or giving a speech.  If this was your brother that declined coming to a family reunion you're not going to accept him if he later determines he can?  What would you expect, that he calls you up and asks you to formally re-extend the invite so he can formally accept?  And under what supernova black hole would you refuse to do so?  C'mon man.

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Assuming his party will be held on the star on the 50 yard line at Jerry World

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On ‎6‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 4:18 PM, Slider said:

I love TO. His biggest problem is he can't stand people that don't put in the effort he does. That's also his right. He won't have many friends but the few he has will be gold. 

He doesn't beat women, do drugs or anything close. He just worked hard and gets more hate for his attitude than anything else. He's confused inside because he knows he hasn't done anything terrible but is perceived as a total jerk by so many. Sad but that's how it is.

 

Agreed and I don't think the lack of ring is necessarily his fault.  He played his guts out in the Super Bowl vs the Pats, on one good leg.  Had McNabb shown the same intestinal fortitude they'd likely both have rings.

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1 hour ago, Pipes said:

Agreed and I don't think the lack of ring is necessarily his fault.  He played his guts out in the Super Bowl vs the Pats, on one good leg.  Had McNabb shown the same intestinal fortitude they'd likely both have rings.

I see what you did there.

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On 6/7/2018 at 4:36 PM, efactor said:

As a  49er fan, I just don't care...............

you dont care enough to skip the only thread weve had on him i 4 years?

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I’m still trying to figure out how anyone gives the guy a complete pass for the damage he did to teams in the locker room and on the sideline.  He gets to be a total **** and tear apart teams because he expects everyone to be gifted with as much talent as he had?  Total BS.  And what he did to Garcia was nothing short of utter cowardice and childishness - to what end exactly.

 

He was a great talent.  No argument there.  But he was also a total punk.  The concept of team meant nothing to him.  Nothing.

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I think the NFL is a big fraternity that most players are a part of. They look to each other as if having the same battles and battle scars. 

TO was often not part of the group either by his fault or others not extending the same hand they did. 

Sharing the moment with friends and family makes sense in this light. 

He has often spoke out of turn and often said things he regretted and often said harmless things that people spun to be harmful. I don't think he'd be comfy giving a speech or want to. I'm not sure he wants to give spinners one last chance to spin. Some HOF speeches are awesome some stink. I'd lean negatively toward how he'd do if he gave a speech. Since it is about performance and not speaking, I can imagine him letting his performance speak for itself. Ironically we often wished he did this

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Some people never learn. What a miserable guy

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Posted (edited)

On 6/8/2018 at 4:18 PM, Slider said:

I love TO. His biggest problem is he can't stand people that don't put in the effort he does. That's also his right. He won't have many friends but the few he has will be gold. 

He doesn't beat women, do drugs or anything close. He just worked hard and gets more hate for his attitude than anything else. He's confused inside because he knows he hasn't done anything terrible but is perceived as a total jerk by so many. Sad but that's how it is.

 

This is all sorts of wrong. When you have to reach to "he doesnt best women or do drugs" to justify that he wasn't a bad guy, you know something is off. Guy threw so many people under the bus and broke so many teams apart it isn't funny.  Complete lack of loyalty to anyone around him. That's why he's all alone. And even now, he still doesn't get it. You can play the victim card all you want for him. Skipping the ceremony is yet another example of TO. 

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32 minutes ago, flapgreen said:

This is all sorts of wrong. When you have to reach to "he doesnt best women or do drugs" to justify that he wasn't a bad guy, you know something is off. Guy threw so many people under the bus and broke so many teams apart it isn't funny.  Complete lack of loyalty to anyone around him. That's why he's all alone. And even now, he still doesn't get it. You can play the victim card all you want for him. Skipping the ceremony is yet another example of TO. 

Nah. Everywhere he's been there's been drama but there's also been a lot of people that liked him. His detractors are just louder and they're probably 65/35. You obviously put a ton more into who he is rather than what he did to prepare for the game or what he did on the field. 

Btw, different is not wrong.

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I'm glad he's doing it. He should have been a first ballot HOFer. The voters let their personal feelings get involved and stuck it to him. He's just letting them have it back. Good for TO.

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That's bogus.

Is it called "The Hall Of Fame" or is it called "The Hall Of Fame But Only If You Show Up".

Don't sink to TO's level. Honor the man just like you'd honor anyone else who wasn't there.

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I've moved firmly into the "I Don't Give a Crap Either Way" camp.

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I approve of this.

Don't want to show up because you are being a crybaby, then you don't get recognized.  Works for me. 

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On 6/8/2018 at 8:54 AM, Dr. Octopus said:

With the NFL only five players can go in during each class of inductees. Owens is without a doubt a Hall of Famer but having had to wait until his third year is hardly a slight.

Backlogged position or not, when statistically you're in a far and distant top 3 all-time, he has a legitimate gripe. IMO.

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8 hours ago, ShamrockPride said:

Backlogged position or not, when statistically you're in a far and distant top 3 all-time, he has a legitimate gripe. IMO.

Absolutely. He could be argued as the best receiver of all time. When you look at his peak years, the QBs he was stuck with, what he did in the SB on one leg, and even his final season it clearly puts him ahead of Moss. Rice was just as dominant, did it longer, and didn't disrupt the team but he had better QB to work with. 

I mean at age 37 he was on pace for like a 1200/10 season before getting hurt. Who was the other WR on that team? He was basically a dominant WR1 at age 37. Rice pulled some of these super human feats off too but Moss did not. Moss quit when he had to play with terrible QB. TO never quit.  

 

TO will regret not going to the HOF ceremony but he no doubt should have been a 1st ballot HOF so he has a legit gripe. 

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11 minutes ago, Milkman said:

Absolutely. He could be argued as the best receiver of all time. When you look at his peak years, the QBs he was stuck with, what he did in the SB on one leg, and even his final season it clearly puts him ahead of Moss. Rice was just as dominant, did it longer, and didn't disrupt the team but he had better QB to work with. 

I mean at age 37 he was on pace for like a 1200/10 season before getting hurt. Who was the other WR on that team? He was basically a dominant WR1 at age 37. Rice pulled some of these super human feats off too but Moss did not. Moss quit when he had to play with terrible QB. TO never quit.  

 

TO will regret not going to the HOF ceremony but he no doubt should have been a 1st ballot HOF so he has a legit grip. 

Not sure he has a 'legit grip' on anything.

:P

 

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Who F’ing cares?! And did someone really say it could be argued that TO is the GROAT? Now THAT is laughable. 

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25 minutes ago, identikit said:

Not sure he has a 'legit grip' on anything.

:P

 

lol ooops

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11 hours ago, Ghost Rider said:

I approve of this.

Don't want to show up because you are being a crybaby, then you don't get recognized.  Works for me. 

If I throw a party and one of the main invitees does not want to show up, the most polite thing would be not to even mention his name.

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HoF acting like a buncha third graders.

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It's almost like a "Seinfeld" routine:

Jerry (T.O.): "I won't be attending the event."

Store Manager (HOF): "May I ask why?"

Jerry (T.O.): "For spite."

Store Manager (HOF): "I'm afraid that 'spite' doesn't fit into any of our reasons for not attending."

Jerry (T.O.): "Well, so fine, then. Then......I have a prior commitment...and that's why I won't be attending!"

Store Manager (HOF): "You already said 'spite'. Too late!"

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In my experience, people who tend to act like d-bags usually get treated like d-bags. Not saying the NFL shouldn't take the high road, but it shouldn't be a surprise to T.O. if the NFL leaves him out of the ceremony if it is a ceremony that he chooses not to attend.

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This thread is proof that people will argue anything and everything. Our world is in a sad state. Does anyone work for a living? 

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1 hour ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

This thread is proof that people will argue anything and everything. Our world is in a sad state. Does anyone work for a living? 

:oldunsure:

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4 hours ago, Chaka said:

HoF acting like a buncha third graders.

This may be the most ironic statement in the history of irony.

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5 hours ago, Chaka said:

HoF acting like a buncha third graders.

They managed to make TO a sympathetic figure. Not easy.

They could have easily issued a brief statement, saying they respected his decision, and will still honor him, and yada yada yada.  Defuse it, make the focus be how childish TO is, and win the PR battle.

So dumb.  

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I don't get the controversy here. TO was voted in to the HoF. He is refusing the induction ceremony therefor won't be part of the induction ceremony. What is the confusion here? 

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