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10 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

I thought I had it all figured out with Philly, but they were so abysmal this week that I'm having second thoughts. I also have Buffalo, and I grabbed KC off the WW.

I feel like KC is finally gaining some momentum. And Drew Lock is going to regress now that other teams have game film of him.

Same boat.  Have Phi and KC leaning Phi cause Haskins is terrible.

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3 hours ago, steelwind said:

Same boat.  Have Phi and KC leaning Phi cause Haskins is terrible.

Keep going back and forth on these two, and SEA. No decision in sight for me.

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Deciding between Bills, Bucs, Eagles. This is one of the tougher weeks I can remember streaming D's. Did not miss this aspect of redraft after years only playing dynasty (with no D/ST or K). 

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On 12/12/2019 at 12:48 PM, steelwind said:

Same boat.  Have Phi and KC leaning Phi cause Haskins is terrible.

Looks like Denver's starting RG and RT have been ruled out. Can't be good for Lock.

And for anyone thinking about SEA, Clowney has been ruled out and S Griffin is questionable.

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Saw something about half of 49ers starting defense out this week. Is this true?

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I’m seeing packers ranked high here and elsewhere.  They’ve put up single digits every week since week 3.  What gives?  Do people think Chicago is THAT bad?

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3 hours ago, unckeyherb said:

I’m seeing packers ranked high here and elsewhere.  They’ve put up single digits every week since week 3.  What gives?  Do people think Chicago is THAT bad?

I don't rank Packers high this week.   I'm starting them because they are the best that I have available.   

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8 hours ago, shadyridr said:

Saw something about half of 49ers starting defense out this week. Is this true?

Yes it is. Feeling like I have to play the Eagles now. Who’s still starting the Niner D?

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2 hours ago, DocHolliday said:

I don't rank Packers high this week.   I'm starting them because they are the best that I have available.   

Gotcha.  Would you rank Cleveland or Minn above them?  

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1 hour ago, Judge Smails said:

Yes it is. Feeling like I have to play the Eagles now. Who’s still starting the Niner D?

I'm leaning toward starting Tampa Bay over the 49ers, but I won't decide for sure until tomorrow.

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4 hours ago, Judge Smails said:

Yes it is. Feeling like I have to play the Eagles now. Who’s still starting the Niner D?

I have them in right now but thinking about TB.  I will sleep on it and sort it out in the morning.  I am worried about Julio against the backups, but I do think SF can pressure Ryan and his mediocre line.

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I'm all in on the Tampa Bay defense. I was on the Bills and I can see them stopping the Steelers from scoring much but not generating sacks and turnovers. I think Tampa's defensive front will wreak havoc on the Lions offense and a third string QB wont help matters.

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2-4 inches of snow expected in KC today. Upgrade for Chiefs defense? 

Denver will obviously try to pound the run and limit Lock’s throws, so it’s up to KC to make them force the issue with passing by putting points on the board. Weather conditions might make it low scoring all around, so maybe not. Then again, rookie QB making his third start in Arrowhead is hard enough. Adding in a snowstorm only ratchets up the degree of difficulty, so it should favor KC D.

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14 hours ago, unckeyherb said:

Gotcha.  Would you rank Cleveland or Minn above them?  

I would rank Cleveland higher.   Not sure which Mitch is going to show up against GB.   Lately, Mitch has been playing well.  

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9 hours ago, dmac37 said:

I'm all in on the Tampa Bay defense. I was on the Bills and I can see them stopping the Steelers from scoring much but not generating sacks and turnovers. I think Tampa's defensive front will wreak havoc on the Lions offense and a third string QB wont help matters.

Interesting.  A buddy of mine brought the same thing up last night.  I’m intrigued; I also don’t have any good options.

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10 hours ago, dmac37 said:

I'm all in on the Tampa Bay defense. I was on the Bills and I can see them stopping the Steelers from scoring much but not generating sacks and turnovers. I think Tampa's defensive front will wreak havoc on the Lions offense and a third string QB wont help matters.

Same exact situation, same exact thought process for me. Let's hope we're right. 

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5 hours ago, Johnny Utah #9 said:

2-4 inches of snow expected in KC today. Upgrade for Chiefs defense? 

Denver will obviously try to pound the run and limit Lock’s throws, so it’s up to KC to make them force the issue with passing by putting points on the board. Weather conditions might make it low scoring all around, so maybe not. Then again, rookie QB making his third start in Arrowhead is hard enough. Adding in a snowstorm only ratchets up the degree of difficulty, so it should favor KC D.

I would think so. They got 9 sacks in the first matchup too. With more DEN linemen out, could be a tough day for Lock.

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6 hours ago, Johnny Utah #9 said:

2-4 inches of snow expected in KC today. Upgrade for Chiefs defense? 

Denver will obviously try to pound the run and limit Lock’s throws, so it’s up to KC to make them force the issue with passing by putting points on the board. Weather conditions might make it low scoring all around, so maybe not. Then again, rookie QB making his third start in Arrowhead is hard enough. Adding in a snowstorm only ratchets up the degree of difficulty, so it should favor KC D.

It's either KC or SEA for me. Flip flopping.

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17 hours ago, NotSmart said:

I'm leaning toward starting Tampa Bay over the 49ers, but I won't decide for sure until tomorrow.

Super tough choice but I decided to go with SF.

Hopes are SF gets a sizable lead and forces Atl into lots of passing.

Even with the injuries, it's hard to overlook the season long track record of SF Def.

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TB ended up being the right choice of the three I was choosing between, unless the Bills go off. Thanks to those who went back and forth on it

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9 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Same exact situation, same exact thought process for me. Let's hope we're right. 

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On 12/12/2019 at 9:48 AM, steelwind said:
On 12/12/2019 at 9:37 AM, [scooter] said:

I thought I had it all figured out with Philly, but they were so abysmal this week that I'm having second thoughts. I also have Buffalo, and I grabbed KC off the WW.

I feel like KC is finally gaining some momentum. And Drew Lock is going to regress now that other teams have game film of him.

Same boat.  Have Phi and KC leaning Phi cause Haskins is terrible.

Philly was hot garbage yesterday. I am giving serious consideration to starting Buffalo against the Patriots next week.

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Already picked them up on Sunday for this matchup regardless of who Car has as QB!

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1 hour ago, icehouse said:

Those with an open spot may want to grab the Colts for next week, in case Carolina benches Allen for Grier.

I did as well without even thinking Grier could start.

Any insight on Grier? Read a blurb today that he wasn't so hot in preseason. Maybe he isn't a dump off machine and he throws (some picks) downfield vs. Allen throwing to CMC twenty times a game.

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4 minutes ago, steelwind said:

Have both Den and Ind will decide between the two.  Leaning Den for now.

No brainer

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I own Minn & KC - have Denver, Seattle, Atlanta on the waivers. Tough call. 

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There's a lot of lower end Ds with good matchups this week. Ton to choose from:

* ATL vs JAX -- ATL D has come on last few weeks. Good showing against SF. Now faces Jax although they may get Chark back.

* WASH vs NYG -- D. Jones could be back and the Wash D has quietly been pretty decent.

* LAC vs OAK -- Gotta think OAK mails it in after that demoralizing defeat in the black hole against JAX.

I've already got KC (@CHI), Indy (vs CAR), and SEA (vs AZ) rostered. Thought they would be head and shoulders above the options listed above. Now not so sure.

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I happen to get rosters frozen in the playoffs and got Indianapolis going into it. :banned:

I'm also in the consolation bracket "finals" in that one. :(

Seriously, though, Indy plays a lot of zone, but they've gotta be worth at least a look even after last night.  

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21 hours ago, [scooter] said:

Philly was hot garbage yesterday. I am giving serious consideration to starting Buffalo against the Patriots next week.

Philly was hot garbage the week running up to the playoffs, too. Miami's better than they were at the beginning of the year, but not 38 points scored solely on offense better. 

The bolded is a tall order, though. Never wanna fade the Pats when they're fighting for the division and potential bye at home. It's all based on the front of the jersey, though; they've got nobody on offense that scares me in the least right now.  

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58 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I happen to get rosters frozen in the playoffs and got Indianapolis going into it. :banned:

I'm also in the consolation bracket "finals" in that one. :(

Seriously, though, Indy plays a lot of zone, but they've gotta be worth at least a look even after last night.  

Trying to dismiss last night but difficult.

Brees picked that zone apart. 

Grier is not Brees though and that zone could confuse him quite a bit.

Just not sure how motivated Indy is now. They are officially eliminated.

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2 hours ago, shadyridr said:

No brainer

Wasn’t sure if Stafford will be back.  Rumors that he wants to return 16 or 17.  That’s why I have Indy on standby.

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47 minutes ago, kyoun1e said:

Trying to dismiss last night but difficult.

Brees picked that zone apart. 

Grier is not Brees though and that zone could confuse him quite a bit.

Just not sure how motivated Indy is now. They are officially eliminated.

Good points, all. Not someone you want to be rolling out there if there are any other viable options. 

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22 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

I did as well without even thinking Grier could start.

Any insight on Grier? Read a blurb today that he wasn't so hot in preseason. Maybe he isn't a dump off machine and he throws (some picks) downfield vs. Allen throwing to CMC twenty times a game.

allen threw picks everywhere

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2 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

ATL vs JAX -- ATL D has come on last few weeks. Good showing against SF. Now faces Jax although they may get Chark back.

Rolling with the Falcons in their last game at home.

They are showing some real fight, and the Jags just don't scare me. Not to mention, Fornette is seemingly done....like he's running in wet cement.

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On 12/16/2019 at 1:18 PM, [scooter] said:

Philly was hot garbage yesterday. I am giving serious consideration to starting Buffalo against the Patriots next week.

Same here.  Also considering the Jets after what said Bills did against them Monday.

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On 12/12/2019 at 10:38 AM, Long Ball Larry said:

did the same last week

Me too.  Also have Niners vs Rams at home.  It all comes down to the QB.  Here's what I read today...

With starter Matthew Stafford expected to be fully healthy for the start of next season, this might be the Lions' best chance to get Sloter some reps, whether it's a couple series, a quarter or a full half, as they assess the team's backup competition heading into 2020. 

An undrafted free agent out of Northern Colorado, Sloter has spent much of his early career with the Minnesota Vikings. A preseason standout the past three years, he completed better than 72 percent of his passes each of the exhibition slates, including 76.5 percent for the Vikings this year. 

Additionally, in those 12 preseason games, he's thrown 11 touchdowns to one interception. 

"He's got the ability to make all the throws, all that stuff," Lions quarterback coach Sean Ryan said earlier this month. "I thought he was an athletic guy. He's got good size for the position. ... He's an accurate guy and it seems to me, without knowing the ins and outs (of the Vikings system), but understanding small amounts of his responsibility, I thought he made good decisions, got the ball out quickly and got the ball out accurately."

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14 hours ago, Faust said:

I used these articles to help me decide on Tampa Bay last week, worked out great. This week looking at the articles I decided to go with the Colts, hope they show signs of life after the Monday night disaster.

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35 minutes ago, dmac37 said:

I used these articles to help me decide on Tampa Bay last week, worked out great. This week looking at the articles I decided to go with the Colts, hope they show signs of life after the Monday night disaster.

I need some serious football analysis to go with Indy this week. They looked horrible against NO.

Zone scheme. Not sure if that's good or bad for rookie Grier.

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