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Nancy Pelosi made a comment recently that they need to focus on health care and not the Russian stuff. Almost immediately most of the MSM outlets were talking about health care and not the Russia stuff. Maddow did't do that and continues with it and her ratings are falling.
I don't watch our national MSM....at all (outside a breaking national event like 9/11 etc). It's an echo chamber I can't quite figure out why any of you participate in and I made my comment about this instance specifically. That doesn't negate any other instances. They are independent of one another. Don't know why that's incredible at all.
The operable words being "on MSNBC"On MSNBC, Andrew Sullivan Blasts MSNBC Analyst Malcolm Nance as a Conspiracy Theorist
"Jesus lord, you're recommending that guy?"
She reminds me of art help after the y2k hype was a bust. When you’re a prophet you gotta deliver
Are Fox's ratings down as well? I wouldn't be surprised if the average American is tired of all of this crap and has tuned out in general, not just from the liberal cable channels. I haven't watched any of them in years now.
Like Ghost said it would help if DC had a link - they don't - to show their numbers to get a comp.
That’s a fair point, I think Trumpites often use Maddow as the comp for Hannity but it’s really Sharpton.How does Al Sharpton still have a stranglehold on this network?I’m watching their coverage of the Democrat event in South Carolina and after every candidate speaks they run off stage and immediately give an interview to Sharpton.
I’d say Lawrence O’Donnell is closer. Even as a liberal that guy is hard to take.
She still has a show? Haven’t watched since she hyped up getting Trumps tax returns, only to go an entire show and only reveal a two page nothing burger from 2005.
I was just bumping this the other day because it had MSNBC in the title, but man you’re right. I just went back and reread this entire thread and it’s pretty much the same exact playbook the Democrats used last year literally to the week.
Crazy attracts crazy. He’s a perfect fit.How does Al Sharpton still have a stranglehold on this network?
I really like O’Donnell. I am a huge fan of The West Wing and he wrote most of the last season. Thoughtful guy.
Did you read this thread? You were the only one who at least admitted that MSNBC is a list cause. Everyone else seemed on board with the Nazi rhetoric and instead turned it on me.
Just speaking about their shows or MSNBC personas. Really don’t watch a ton of TV news so not even sure when Al is on but see him as a guest from time to time and he has been pretty much boilerplate Trump basher (fine by me) when I have seen him with his point of view obviously coming from the African American perspective.
) so I want to like the show but he just doesn’t add anything when I watch except ragging in Trump. I get that sentiment, but don’t need to spend time watching it.
O’Donnell is to the left what O’Reiily is to the right in this regard: an obnoxious personality who comes off like he knows everything.
Yeah. He has some Tucker Carlson smarminess in him as well. I agree with O’Donnell on majority of the issues but not a fan of his style.
They are all a lost cause. I don't know why you guys insist on using them as a gauge for anything but here we arejon_mx said:
I've heard O'Reilly recently is appearing on Hannity, Beck and other conservative outlets, yet is still pushing that he is "no spin". When on Fox, O'Reilly was at least interested in getting opposing viewpoints on, and was successful in getting Obama, Kerry, Schumer, and others on, and wasn't as crazy as the Hannity's, Beck's, Carlson's and Ingram's are, but was definitely right of center. In his last year on Fox, he was clearly behind Trump and just made excuse after excuse for Trump either lying about things or downplaying his daily controversy - that was sad to see because if Trump was a Democrat, he'd be throwing fits every night. Anyways, O'Reilly has $32M other problems these days
Jeez, just now seeing this. Did Katy Tur intentionally leave out the fact that the FBI was running this entrapment scheme on mentally ill men? Beyond the pale gross.
As bad or worse than FOX. If I watch 5 minutes of cable news a night it is too much.
That's simply not accurate. Fox, MSNBC, CNN, Vox, etc... - they are two sides of the same coin. That's not even debatable at this point.
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As with many of the "both sides" talking points in the Trump era, this too has been hoisted with their own petards.
Again, we're talking overall and not some specific point in time. They're all propaganda garbage. You can stop pretending the other side is so virtuous. They aren't and they aren't anymore or less than Fox. You're fooling yourself if you think Fox is the only bad guy in all this.
Overall doesn't matter anymore.
Yeah, I"m not sure what to tell you. I believe they're all trash. You think only Fox is.
As far as I know, Fox is the only national media outlet which downplayed the coronavirus threat to the point of using words like "hoax" and "impeachment".Yeah, I"m not sure what to tell you. I believe they're all trash. You think only Fox is.
Why do you insist that only Fox is the problem?
Nah, not really IMO. I respect your opinion but downplaying stuff and overplaying stuff happens on all networks and it's all just as bad. If you want to single out Corona-virus as the one that pushed you over the edge, that's fine. I'm okay with that.
Well...Trumps other favorite OANN claimed it was created in a lab in North Carolina.
What fear mongering? Have they been wrong about the spread of this?
The problem with this attempt at whataboutism is that Fox is now jumping on the fearmongering bandwagon.
Japan got an earlier jump on us with this virus and now they have a much fewer infections. They have not shut down as much as we have. They are not talking about marshal law or are not hoarding stuff. They are still playing ball minus the large crowds. You watch their news and they talk about normal stuff and the population is not living in nearly the fear we live it. I think the media has been terrible in fueling the fear. Shutting things down like schools for a while makes sense. Educating people about talking proper percautions makes sense. But we have gone too far in some areas and are shutting down too much. There are still only 6 out of 100,000 who have the virus, and then it is still unlikely to be fatal. I think we are going too far.
