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Space Force: Trump directs creation of sixth military branch (1 Viewer)
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whoknew
Footballguy
For the record, I don't think its a stupid idea in general.* I just think:
1) Trump will #### it up and
b) He will set it up so that he personally profits from it somehow.
*I mean, who the #### doesn't want a space force? That's awesome.
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Did the Russian "Space Force" deploy the satellite? Do we not have the means to investigate or deal with this without establishing another branch of the military?
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
It's actually not funny.whoknew said:
msommer
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Unless this is going to include laser cats, I have zero interest. Zero.
squistion
Footballguy
Trump backed the 'space force' idea after months of lobbying by officials with ties to the aerospace industry, according to the LA Times.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-space-20180817-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-space-20180817-story.html
bueno
In a class by himself
The problem with treaties is they only last so long as they are in each signatories best interests.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Is this part of his ongoing investigation to find Obama's real birth certificate?
Van Dyman
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
Eagerly awaiting the creation of the SPACE FORCEC ACADEMY. First class will be an event
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Third paragraph is very true, huge technology leaps were made during the Apollo and Space Shuttle programs. Huge obstacles had to overcome.
The Space Service is as important to advance our technological edge, that was damaged by Buh and Obama.
It is also a great platform for weapons development and deployment as well as reconnaissance.
squistion
Footballguy
Vice President Mike Pence @VP 34m34 minutes ago
Today, @POTUS Trump will direct the @DeptofDefense to establish a Combatant Command that will oversee all of our military activities in space. This Space Command will be the 11th Combatant Command in the U.S. military.
https://twitter.com/VP/status/1075065384921849856
Today, @POTUS Trump will direct the @DeptofDefense to establish a Combatant Command that will oversee all of our military activities in space. This Space Command will be the 11th Combatant Command in the U.S. military.
https://twitter.com/VP/status/1075065384921849856
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Ridiculous waste of money but then when it comes to stupidity, this administration is tops.
squistion
Footballguy
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[scooter]
Footballguy
This reminds me of one of my favorite Twitter parody accounts -- @realGulDukat
"Gul Dukat @realGulDukat
Crooked Captain Sisko was weak on borders & security. Let Klingons & Maquis-13 gang members poor across Badlands. The Klingons are not sending their best, believe me. We're going to build a big, beautiful Subspace Graviton Field & Bajor is going to pay for it!
9:10 PM - 6 Feb 2018"
Dickies
Footballguy
The more I think about it, the more I disagree. I fully expect the Trump's plan to be half-baked, but I think it would be wise to prepare for what the military's role in space will look like moving forward.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
Yeah, I thought there treaties signed to that effect, that space will not be weaponized.
Dickies
Footballguy
I guess I should re-phrase that, because I'm not talking about spaceships with lasers shooting at aliens. I'm thinking more in terms of something like a Coast Guard in space that can make sure space debris is not destroying our satellites, cleaning up space debris, and also being prepared to launch emergency rescue missions to the ISS or other space stations in the future. NASA said the next mission where people land on the moon would be one where permanent structures are established. Maybe that is 50 years off, but the rate at which we are exploring outer space seems to be rapidly expanding.
Dickies
Footballguy
Correct, and no states may lay claim to any bodies in space, such as the Moon or Mars, etc.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Right, we already have an agency that does (or could be doing) all the stuff you're talking about. We don't need another one.
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OrtonToOlsen
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Did I mention that the wife and I went as Space Force troopers? Took first place in the bar contest. :huffsonknucckles:
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Dickies
Footballguy
And it's one of the first things the GOP wants to slash with budget cuts. If it was re-branded as a branch of the military imagine what we could accomplish.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Trump has visions of Star Destroyers patrolling the solar system, which is absurd, but I don't think the general concept is that far-fetched. I'm no expert, and maybe everything at this time would be redundant, but in WWI and WWII there was no official Air Force and all military aviation operated under the other branches of the military.
Leave NASA to explore and research, and have a "space force" (ideally an international coalition) to defend and regulate space weapon-free.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
There's a whole lot of people in this admin looking to get off the planet in a few months.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I'm more than okay for the government to accommodate them.
Step right this way for boarding our new Space Force prototype "Rocket to the Sun."
Henry Ford
Footballguy
msommer
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
To be honest I think other countries would/could try to “attack” our satellites, more likely with a software attack than shooting a gun at them. How do we secure our sattellites? Could the Chinese launch a small rocket with some sort of small intercept device to latch onto it and steal signal, jam, or otherwise disrupt it? While I think the “space force” is ridiculous, I do see credible threats and it would be foolish to assume our enemies can be trusted to live up to their end of the treaty.
msommer
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
msommer
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
Given the way the UN and NATO work we'd be paying for the vast, vast majority, anyway.
While the name is beyond stupid, turning our thinking toward this area of foreign weaponization isn't awful. Certainly isn't the worst thing that this admin has proposed.
Sand
Footballguy
There is definitely foreign (Russia, China) weaponization going on. Not sure who you want to be the lead - Dept. of Transportation?
It shouldn't be. But, as is typical, the US is left to lead.
msommer
Footballguy
These two sentences seem at odds to each other. If the US must lead, it follows no one else is doing it?
[scooter]
Footballguy
Also, if the US is left to lead, doesn't that contradict the isolationist philosophy of Trump and his supporters?
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Max Power
Footballguy
I listened to the Rogan podcast with Neil DeGrasse Tyson the other day and Neil said he recommended a space force to G.W. Bush back in 2001. So he is all in favor of it. He had an interesting take about getting ahead of the curve, so maybe this idea isn't as dumb as think.
He also highlighted that this doesn't have to be a country vs country thing and space force could lead the way in meteor protection.
He also highlighted that this doesn't have to be a country vs country thing and space force could lead the way in meteor protection.
msommer
Footballguy
Pray tell, why is the militarization of space a good idea?
Why not give more money and tasks to NASA - to ensure no one is triggered into a country to country race
dschuler
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Really? I would think the spread of fall-out would be far more reaching instead of isolated in one large area.dschuler said:
msommer
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
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