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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (1 Viewer)
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Parrothead
Footballguy
you are giving this thread... a bad name
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Dont be dissin dokken.....Ghost Rider said:Are we doing Dokken tomorrow?
jwb
Footballguy
Slippery When Wet definitely brings back memories - I was 20 when it came out, all the girls loved it, it was on jukeboxes everywhere, etc. Someone else mentioned Def Leppard's Hysteria - those two were the absolute peak of hair metal - it was all downhill from there on out.
Some songs still work, and I get the album's importance to the genre, but it's not an album I'd reach for anytime soon.
Some songs still work, and I get the album's importance to the genre, but it's not an album I'd reach for anytime soon.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I will say that the song Heaven Sent has held up extremely well. I am a sucker for 80s music I grew up listening to and that one is a mainstay on my 80s playlist.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
My favorite Dokken song is When Heaven Comes Down. Lynch nails it. It is actually cool without a lot of the typical Dokken cheese and is not as wimpy as most Dokken songs.
I will say that the song Heaven Sent has held up extremely well. I am a sucker for 80s music I grew up listening to and that one is a mainstay on my 80s playlist.
timschochet
Footballguy
Stevie Wonder- Innervisions (1973)
Too High
Visions
Living For the City
Golden Lady
Higher Ground
Jesus Children of America
All in Love is Fair
Don’t You Worry ‘Bout a Thing
He’s Misstra Know-It-All
Whole lot of brilliance here. Long before Prince there was Stevie writing, playing nearly every instrument, and producing. Most of his work prior to this album had been focused on questions of romantic love, but here he turns to social issues and politics. The sad part is that most of his lyrics are still relevant. “Living for the City” could just as easily describe the urban plight of many black Americans in 2018 as it did in 1973. “Misstra Know-It-All” a song decrying the presidency of Richard Nixon, could apply as easily our current President. And so on. Wonderful record.
Too High
Visions
Living For the City
Golden Lady
Higher Ground
Jesus Children of America
All in Love is Fair
Don’t You Worry ‘Bout a Thing
He’s Misstra Know-It-All
Whole lot of brilliance here. Long before Prince there was Stevie writing, playing nearly every instrument, and producing. Most of his work prior to this album had been focused on questions of romantic love, but here he turns to social issues and politics. The sad part is that most of his lyrics are still relevant. “Living for the City” could just as easily describe the urban plight of many black Americans in 2018 as it did in 1973. “Misstra Know-It-All” a song decrying the presidency of Richard Nixon, could apply as easily our current President. And so on. Wonderful record.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Great record.
He's Misstra Know It All is easily my favorite Stevie song, and Living for the City is not far behind.
He's Misstra Know It All is easily my favorite Stevie song, and Living for the City is not far behind.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Did you give up talking about Bon Jovi because.....
...
Tommy and Gina won't back down?
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Tommy and Gina won't back down?
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I have no problem defending this as the greatest album of the Boomer/Classic Rock era.
Problem is, that he had at least three others were as good.
Stevie's 15 year run from Music Of My Mind through In Square Circle is unrivaled
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Everybody's got a thing
But some don't know how to handle it
Always reachin' out in vain
Just taking the things not worth having but
Don't you worry 'bout a thing
They say your style of life's a drag
And that you must go other places
But just don't you feel too bad
When you get fooled by smiling faces but
Don't you worry 'bout a thing
When you get it off your trip
Everybody needs a change
A chance to check out the new
But you're the only one to see
The changes you take yourself through but
Don't you worry 'bout a thing
Thank you, Stevie.
But some don't know how to handle it
Always reachin' out in vain
Just taking the things not worth having but
Don't you worry 'bout a thing
They say your style of life's a drag
And that you must go other places
But just don't you feel too bad
When you get fooled by smiling faces but
Don't you worry 'bout a thing
When you get it off your trip
Everybody needs a change
A chance to check out the new
But you're the only one to see
The changes you take yourself through but
Don't you worry 'bout a thing
Thank you, Stevie.
HellToupee
Footballguy
This isn’t my bag, not a fan but I recognize the greatness
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Here's the thing about Stevie Wonder:
He's.....complicated
He had a HOF's worth of hits before he turned 21 (Springsteen - born around the same time - was still busing tables). I'm pretty certain he wrote most of them, but didn't get credit because he was a kid and because Berry Gordy was an ####### who doled out composing credits to his other slaves.
Like a lot of his peers (& there ain't but a few on Stevie's level), he had no filter. He recorded what he wanted to and sometimes that led to schlock (that sold 8 gazillion records).
He got himself locked in on his previous album - Talking Book where he only played the most famous drum intro in rock history on "Superstition"- but this is the record where he turned it loose.
"Living For The City" is the greatest anthem of the '70s - it's not a fairy tale by guys who dropped too many tabs of acid and immersed themselves in Tolkien. This was real life for millions of folks. Stevie's "Voice Of God" vocals after the bridge rank with anything any singer has done, ever.
Every song on this album is layered and brilliant.
Then, he did it again on the next album (after almost getting killed by a tree hitting him in the head) and AGAIN on Songs In The Key Of Life.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)
Sunday Morning
I’m Waiting for the Man
Femme Fatale
Venus In Furs
Run Run Run
All Tomrrow’s Parties
Heroin
There She Goes Again
I’ll Be Your Mirror
Black Angel’s Death Song
European Son
Arguably the most influential rock album of all time. Extraordinary for its era- this album was produced in 1966, and artists back then did not talk about death and drugs, much less the ravages of heroin. While McCartney and Lennon were singing “I’m in love with her and I feel fine”, Lou Reed was feeling “sick and dirty, more dead than alive” while waiting for his dealer.
Even so, despite Reed’s avante-garde lyrics, despite the steady drumming of Tucker and the innovative electronic work of Cale, despite the famous banana cover by Warhol and the ice queen vocals by Nico (often imitated, never duplicated), what makes this album work are the beautiful pop melodies. “Sunday Morning”, “Femme Fatale”, “Heroin”, “Venus In Furs”, “All Tomorrow’s Parties” are all memorable classics because they are so melodic.
Sunday Morning
I’m Waiting for the Man
Femme Fatale
Venus In Furs
Run Run Run
All Tomrrow’s Parties
Heroin
There She Goes Again
I’ll Be Your Mirror
Black Angel’s Death Song
European Son
Arguably the most influential rock album of all time. Extraordinary for its era- this album was produced in 1966, and artists back then did not talk about death and drugs, much less the ravages of heroin. While McCartney and Lennon were singing “I’m in love with her and I feel fine”, Lou Reed was feeling “sick and dirty, more dead than alive” while waiting for his dealer.
Even so, despite Reed’s avante-garde lyrics, despite the steady drumming of Tucker and the innovative electronic work of Cale, despite the famous banana cover by Warhol and the ice queen vocals by Nico (often imitated, never duplicated), what makes this album work are the beautiful pop melodies. “Sunday Morning”, “Femme Fatale”, “Heroin”, “Venus In Furs”, “All Tomorrow’s Parties” are all memorable classics because they are so melodic.
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Never needed, rarely heeded the hard, bleak, true-to-life & depressive art - not in literature, movies, music, painting. Even within the madness of VanGogh (aside: do NOT let your life go by without seeing a VvG up close, i implore you) the crows and rear views of churches ached for light. I'm at my most commonly American in that way. I want universality, deep feeling, hope, imaginative puzzles & clever answers from the expressive forms of communication.
That said, great articulation is great articulation and this is great articulation.
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JamesonSkittles
Footballguy
Love this album.....Heroin.....great song.
rockaction
Footballguy
Probably one of the most important pop/rock albums of the century. The Velvet Underground were so special, so unique, so on the edges of everything great musically and lyrically that it defies description.
A worthy choice for a "classic" album, that's for sure.
A worthy choice for a "classic" album, that's for sure.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Nor am I
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[scooter]
Footballguy
She was hot and she had a moody supermodel attitude. Those seem to be the sole reasons why she had any involvement in the music business at all.
Although I must admit that I do have a soft spot in my heart for her 1965 debut single, which was largely the construction of Jimmy Page and Stones manager Andrew Oldham.
rockaction
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Gordon Lightfoot. Later on he merged it with another of his early tunes, “Ribbon of Darkness”.
Nico’s first solo album, in which she covers a number of people including Dylan and her then 16 year old boyfriend Jackson Browne, is actually quite good.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I Feel Fine is from 1964, not 1966. By 1966, the Beatles were giving us songs like Tomorrow Never Knows and Doctor Robert, both of which were about drugs, nearly a year before the release of the Velvet Underground record.timschochet said:
If you want to talk this album up, by all means, but let's avoid the revisionist history.
timschochet
Footballguy
Several of the songs that Reed sung were written in 64 and 65.
But I think you missed my point anyhow. It wasn’t that these songs were about drugs, it was their tone. The album was actually banned from the radio and several record stores because of that tone.
timschochet
Footballguy
Adele- 21- (2011)
Rolling In the Deep
Rumour Has It
Turning Tables
Don’t You Remember
Set Fire to the Rain
He Won’t Go
Take It All
I’ll Be Waiting
One and Only
Lovesong
Someone Like You
I Found a Boy
If there is one modern popular artist still credited with having great albums, this is probably she. Like some of the other notable singer-songwriters we have already touched upon, Adele’s music seems to be quite personal- and also, I think, timeless. I have a feeling that 40 or 50 years from now, “Rolling In the Deep” and “Someone Like You” will continue to be standards.
Rolling In the Deep
Rumour Has It
Turning Tables
Don’t You Remember
Set Fire to the Rain
He Won’t Go
Take It All
I’ll Be Waiting
One and Only
Lovesong
Someone Like You
I Found a Boy
If there is one modern popular artist still credited with having great albums, this is probably she. Like some of the other notable singer-songwriters we have already touched upon, Adele’s music seems to be quite personal- and also, I think, timeless. I have a feeling that 40 or 50 years from now, “Rolling In the Deep” and “Someone Like You” will continue to be standards.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
As always, interesting post. I enjoy the dark as much as the light and I don't think a band ever captured the American underbelly so well. At least for a time when music wasn't really paying attention to it. Music seemed to be the last American art form to really embrace the underbelly of America.
Also, yes being able to stand face to face with a Van Gogh is a very special experience. I am lucky to live so close to the Detroit Institute of Arts. It's free to enter and I like to go a few times a year- standing inches from Van Gogh's self portrait gives one a true sense of awe.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I like the Adele record - she can sing and the songs are all well written. I don't like most of the music on hit radio but Adele is an exception.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
I like Adele and especially this album but isn't it kind of new to be in a classic album thread?
timschochet
Footballguy
Well, let’s start with popularity:In what world.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0T22BH20151114
But by and large the critics seem to agree. She consistently gets high marks, probably the highest of any current artist.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Adele reminds me, personally & artistically, of the first great singer i ever worked with - Bonnie Raitt.
Keene, NH, Thanksgiving week, i remember, 1973, i think. Cold, rainy night. Band & crew are in the some 3rd floor rooms in the local theater before a show. Folks are chatting, goofing, getting properly loaded. I was essentially in charge, but i'm new and certainly don't feel like it and i really dont know Miss Raitt - who i'd 1st seen in a coffeehouse when i was 16 & adored - all that well, so i'm watching her as she's in & out of the room doing this & that.
The outside wall of the room was actually part of this flume up the building above the marquee. Bonnie, as quiet before a show as she was boisterous after, had found a spot leaning against a wall looking out a window. She seems a little down, i figure i should pep her up since i represent her mgmt, so i saunter over. As i get to her, i see streams of tears coursing down her cheeks.
"You OK?"
Miss Raitt bobs her head toward the window, so i look out and down upon 100 or so people standing in the rain, waiting in line to be let into the theater. Bonnie, daughter of one of Broadway's great stars of the 50s, a showbiz vet with a gold record, is overwhelmed that people would stand in the rain to see li'l ol' her.
I get the same vibe from Adele - an immense strength, a vulnerability she'd really rather not have but can't help herself from and a tendency to groove her work toward what her audience wants more than what her tremendous creative fire can achieve. I hope she's carefully & courageously guided along her path, which i'm kinda not seeing so far.
timschochet
Footballguy
Yes. It’s probably the newest album that will be discussed here.
But- it’s already 7 years old. By 1980, Dark Side of the Moon was already regarded as a classic.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
So, I guess in the whitest world possible (that article references The Sound of Music sountrack and Taylor Swift as well). She does not get reviewed favorably to Kendrick Lamar, Kanye West, Radiohead, etc, etc, etc...Well, let’s start with popularity:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0T22BH20151114
But by and large the critics seem to agree. She consistently gets high marks, probably the highest of any current artist.
In fact, on aggregate her albums get very middling reviews.
zamboni
Footballguy
From VU to Adele - interesting. Don't really know much about Adele, so I can't opine.
VU, however, is as unique an album as you'll find. Innovative, groundbreaking, and just out there. It's hardly an album for the musicians, but so creepy that it just works. "Venus In Furs" alone must have scared the beejebus out of '60s suburban parents.
VU, however, is as unique an album as you'll find. Innovative, groundbreaking, and just out there. It's hardly an album for the musicians, but so creepy that it just works. "Venus In Furs" alone must have scared the beejebus out of '60s suburban parents.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It is very clear being a huge star isn't something she enjoys. She hates touring, has a lot of anxiety about performing, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if at any point she just outright retired.
Eephus
Footballguy
She's well established as a superstar and the industry has changed so she can now record and perform on her own terms. Some artists need to keep their nose to the grindstone to feed their family (or their addictions) while others are compelled to keep creating (e.g. Prince). Adele could drop "35" in 2023 and then disappear for another decade.
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