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that's just valuation. it doesn't say don't go over that. It still tells you going $100 is probably not a good idea, but going $65-$70 could be okay as a reach if you really believe in a player. the auction cheat sheet does give u a good scale to set ur expectations. ur league ultimately decides how top talent valuation will go. for the past 5 years I see top 3 or 4 guys go at about 32-34% of cap, which is really high, but it's a valid strategy imo.
bolded is exactly what i do. i get the hard line thing and i usually have that in mind also, but it'll absolutely change throughout. If this is the first year auction for others too, then the bidding will be all over the map. I would expect everyone to be tentative and conservative. Hit the good players early and don't be afraid to spend if that's the case. I seen some auction sheets out there for dynasty, but really, it's not great. Value players like a normal draft, see how ur league goes about spending, and be flexible. My auction has never gone anywhere near the valuation of FBG or any other Web sites and we been auctioning for close to a decade. for dynasty it'll depend a lot on who is available for that year.
same here, we draft with $x and have a $y set aside for in season transactions once we get past the draft. this system would require some crazy planning plus some people are gonna get screwed for the season if not careful.
This doesn't sound typical of anything TBH. Are you sure you don't have a separate purse for FAAB?
I suppose it isn't typical but it's how I'm reading the rules sent out by the league commissioner.
It's a valuation based on the league settings and projections. Keep in mind that auction values for any one specific league is based on supply and demand. All it takes is one guy or more to drive up prices.
I've been in an auction dynasty/keeper league for 5 years now. Elite guys are hard to come by, go get them. Also, from my experience mocks always have guys going higher than what people in your league will spend in draft. Don't be afraid to look like the guy who overpaid by a few$'s because when your RB(s) are top 5 and they went value and ended up w/ a low end RB1 or RB2(s) they'll wish they had paid up for elite guys. Same at WR.jtbreidert said:
There are contracts involved based on how much you spend on players. That means you can hold them as long as the contract holds up. There are franchise tags, too, but I won't get into that. So you don't have them for $25 forever, but if you spend $25 on a player they are under contract for 4 years if you want them that long. There is no penalty to dropping before contract is up, so you can free up cap space. I agree with the upside argument you're making.ZWK said:
Very similar to an auction league I'm in - $400 cap, no separate FAAB pool. During blind-bid waivers, you specify who you're going to drop for the player you want, and your max bid is (dropped salary) + (existing cap space). So if you spend all your money at the auction, your waiver max is directly related to who you're dropping.jtbreidert said:
can pay off for YEARS.Great grab on David Johnson. I wish we started this thing last year, as I snuck Alvin Kamara in the last round and probably could have had him for $1. Problem is his contract would be up at the end of the year, which means I'd have to franchise tag him, but that only gives me a year and costs me $15.Very similar to an auction league I'm in - $400 cap, no separate FAAB pool. During blind-bid waivers, you specify who you're going to drop for the player you want, and your max bid is (dropped salary) + (existing cap space). So if you spend all your money at the auction, your waiver max is directly related to who you're dropping.
It's also not a true dynasty, as players kept from one year to the next get an increase of $1-10 based on their performance. So expensive studs tend to recycle back into the draft pool after a year or two, but getting David Johnson for $7 as a rookie
Yeah, I'm almost always a believer in the "win now" philosophy in dynasty start-ups, but a setup like this screams for spending most of your budget on high-upside youth. If you want to chase a stud into the $60-70 range, make it Barkley. Otherwise I'd go several dollars above AAV on every young guy with stud potential I could lay my hands on - Williams, Corey Davis, Kirk, Sutton, Penny, Michel, Engram, and so on. Even my back-of-bench guys would be young lottery tickets rather than veteran filler - guys like John Ross, Anthony Miller, D.J. Chark, Matt Breida.
I think that's a good strategy, and I'll probably stick to it for the most part. I think Barkley is too expensive. He's being valued above Alvin Kamara for some reason. Kamara is a proven beast in a system that knows how to use him. I don't doubt Barkley's abilities but he's going to the Giants. If I'm reaching, it's probably for a young top-tier (or just below) guy that's in a proven system, like Kamara, Cook or Elliot.
Supply and demand. Consider the prices in your auction to be relative of one another, not what's on the spreadsheet. You'll miss on the elite talent if you think the prices are too high. Then you'll likely overpay on the few best guys left because 2-3 other teams are desperate, too. Get your players early.
The advice on these boards for anything not relatively standard (like Keeper drafts, VBD, Auctions, 2-QB drafts, etc.) is hot garbage. Doyle Brunson would be proud of many people here ... spread maximum disinformation to get an advantage! Although, I think people tend to do it not on purpose.
I think you are completely missing the point of auction valuation if you think the total sum of those 192 players should be $2400. And if you're looking for such a valuation, then I think you should read up on auctions some more in terms of strategy and preparation. There are a few threads on this board and all prior year conversations on this topic should be useful in this context. I don't mean to criticize or berate, but i'm surprised at the math you are trying to apply.
I'm genuinely interested. would you mind listing your top three for the bolded here? i'm sure i'm guilty of more than a few.
I'm in many $300-$1,000 buy-in auctions with people on these boards. Not going to give away my hard work for free. But I will say that of any format, deep-flex Auction leagues have been a massive money-maker for me over the years. Player valuation and execution during the draft are generally awful. Do some leg-work and you put in some work yourself.
Phenomena said:
I'm not really missing the point of auction valuation at all. But if someone is going to use a spreadsheet with values as a tool to assist in their auction, then as a STARTING POINT, the auction values for the top 192 players (in a 12x16 league) should absolutely equal the total league budget.Pigskin Fanatic said:
I use my own spreadsheet for making auction values that fit my league's setting and the totals do not come out exactly. It's meant to give me an idea of what the value for players are, not the exact price they should all go for. I have more players with an auction value than will actually get drafted. Some players have a dollar value even though they may not get drafted.
