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Hey guys,

Wanted to start a new 2018 thread about this...been using the Classic for 10 years and have been playing around with the online version and am still leaning towards the classic as you can pick the windows you want up and make it more customization to what you want to view. 

Interested to hear everyone's thoughts!

Thanks!

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I too been using Classic version for about the same amount of time along side projection dominator to import multiple expert projections. .   I feel the classic version is more flexible when it comes to setting base lines.  Our league is an auction draft league and I have draft results for the past 6 years and base my baseline on that history.  I find the on line dominator does not adequately accommodate my requirements in that area.  I also have more confidence in the auction values reflected in the classic version especially when it comes to adjusting those values as players are drafted.

The on  lime version is more flashy and "modern" looking, but I'm more interesting in flexibility and accuracy than look and feel. .   

 

Just my two cents. 

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Generally, the DD online is better unless you have a workflow that works really well for you in classic.

@BlueMeanie for auctions I would strongly recommend checking out DD Online and getting familiar with it to build up that confidence in the app. Personally my main league is an auction. The app has more flexibility and adaptiveness for auctions than classic.

In particular you can use the positional adjustments to adjust baselines and the studs and duds slider to set the auction value of the top players in accordance with how your league drafts.

This year you can also save your drafts in the cloud and auto-import all your league settings into DD Online. There's a ton more changes too; those are probably the two most important.

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Simon

We had a long discussion about this when the online dominator first went live. I have the draft history for our league for the past 10 years in a database which I run various analysis reports on.  One of the reports shows me how many players are drafted for the $1 minimum bid. As one with auction draft experience, you know that as you get toward the end of the draft, many players are picked up for $1 and if you spent your budget wisely, there is an opportunity to pick up some $2 bargains if you are the only one left with enough of your allocation. 

I set my base lines, using the classic’s “User Configurable by Position Rank” VBD baseline, such that the VBD values for these $1 players is less than 0.  For example, let’s say I set QB baseline at 15.  I expect QB’s ranked from 1-15 have auction values greater than $1 and positive VBD values. Same is true if I were to set RB value to 25, the expectation is RB’s ranked 1-25 are greater than $1 and VBD is greater than 0.   Let’s say the overall the sum of these base line values is 120.  Then I expect any player whose overall rank is less than 120 to have a auction value greater than $1 and VBD value greater than zero.  Since 168 players are dratted (12 teams/14 player rosters) the values for players ranked 126-168 (overall) should be $1 and VBD values less than 0.  To verify the numbers, I’ll take and sum the overall ranking auction values for overall rankings 1-168.  That should add up to $1200 ($100 budgets for 12 teams)

I can’t seem to find a way to replicate this with online dominator. 

 

As a retired software developer, I commend you on the work you’ve done with the online version.  I’m sure many of your users find it a very useful tool.  I may be the only person on the planet that does this type of baselining, but it has worked quite well for me making the playoffs 8 out of the last 10 seasons.

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This is too detailed for me to analyse in the heat of August! I’ll review it next offseason

 

in the meantime sounds like you have a great workflow with Classic that you’re happy with so I’d stick with that 

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On 8/4/2018 at 0:41 PM, Simon Shepherd said:

This is too detailed for me to analyse in the heat of August! I’ll review it next offseason

 

in the meantime sounds like you have a great workflow with Classic that you’re happy with so I’d stick with that 

I have to agree with @Simon Shepherd  If you have the a stable league with players who know what they are doing and a baseline of your drafts going back at least 3-5 years, you can really maximize the capability of the Classic.  That said, FBG's decided a few years ago to focus on the iPad app - there were many great suggestions that were never implemented and the Classic has is more of a 'what could have been'.

If you are in a redraft league with owners who don't put much effort into their draft and don't have draft tendencies, I would use the APP - it's more powerful.

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Would love to see this discussed in April/May this year, not August! There are still a lot of very valid reasons to use Classic! I actually use both the app and Classic DD for prep. But, at the Draft, Classic DD still rules! The ability to plug in your own league's previous draft tendencies is invaluable! The mock draft capabilities of the app is invaluable too. I really think you need both!

 

RR

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On 4/12/2019 at 12:35 AM, rrobb said:

Would love to see this discussed in April/May this year, not August! There are still a lot of very valid reasons to use Classic! I actually use both the app and Classic DD for prep. But, at the Draft, Classic DD still rules! The ability to plug in your own league's previous draft tendencies is invaluable! The mock draft capabilities of the app is invaluable too. I really think you need both!

 

RR

Hi Rrobb, I'm absolutely happy to discuss now. It sounds like you have your mind made up though. If you have questions for me, please shout.

We have done a ton of work on the new version this year, making it better for desktop users. All sliders are now controllable with keyboard entry too, and you can enter your own VBD baselines, both for starters and bench, overriding those calculated automatically by the app.

That's really the tip of the iceberg of our changes, but the two that I think most address the feedback we've got here from Classic DD users.

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Have I made up my mind? Not completely. But, until there's an option to input my leagues actual drafts from years' past, I think you have to take the good from each product...and the Classic DD still has value!

As always, I will purchase the app and decide which to use as I go. As a two-man team on my main league, we can use both and still not run out of time on our pick. I like that the app now addresses the desktop/laptop crowd. I have a lot going on as Commissioner when I'm drafting and my iPad just doesn't cut it.

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Since the APP is going to be free this year, I'll check it out on my laptop.  I've still got a ton of questions and apprehension...but I know right now what I'm looking for out of it and I'll see how it stacks up.

 

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On 6/23/2019 at 2:35 AM, GoBears84 said:

Since the APP is going to be free this year, I'll check it out on my laptop.  I've still got a ton of questions and apprehension...but I know right now what I'm looking for out of it and I'll see how it stacks up.

 

It's always been free online for subscribers FWIW

It's now got a free version online for everyone, too, without premium features.

The exact same thing applies to the mobile app. Free version for everyone, subscribers get the premium features auto-unlocked fore free as well.

Non subscribers can also pay $5 to unlock the mobile app.

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Does anyone know how to clear out the "Note1" column in the Draft Dominator Classic for Windows?  All of my old notes from last year's draft are still in there, even when upgrading my version of the Draft Dominator.  I emailed Football Guys support a few weeks ago, but, still have not gotten an answer.  I know it can be done, I just forgot how to do it.  I appreciate any help with this that anyone can offer.  

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On 7/22/2019 at 4:03 PM, Stingdiddy said:

Does anyone know how to clear out the "Note1" column in the Draft Dominator Classic for Windows?  All of my old notes from last year's draft are still in there, even when upgrading my version of the Draft Dominator.  I emailed Football Guys support a few weeks ago, but, still have not gotten an answer.  I know it can be done, I just forgot how to do it.  I appreciate any help with this that anyone can offer.  

I really don't mind going thru and clearing/editing them manually one-by-one. I really don't have to do much editing of 3rd+ yr players as my notes reflect my general feelings on said player(s.) I start by working my way down the positional rankings, removing "R" from 2nd yr players and adding it to notes for new rookies. I adjust other notes as necessary as I work my way thru.

Surprisingly I find this method pretty simple and not very time consuming. I don't have notes for every player so it's not as daunting as it may seem.

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  1. Download the VBD Excel App.
  2. Click each position tab at the bottom.
  3. If any notes exist in Notes1, delete them.
  4. Save sheet.
  5. In DD Classic, on the "File" menu, click Import.
  6. Select "VBD Excel Spreadsheet".
  7. Choose the spreadsheet you cleared the Notes1 from.
  8. Ensure that the "Import Player Notes" check box is selected.
  9. Click "Start Import".
  10. After the import finishes, check that Notes1 is cleared out and click "Get Latest Projections" if desired.

RR

 

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QB rankings for 2QB leagues are way off on Draft Dominator Classic. Has only 3 QB's in the top 40 picks using my league parameters.

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I don't necessarily think that's way off. After the top 3, AFAIC the next 11 are essentially the same guy. In my scoring, QB#4: 271 points; QB #15: 261 points. (About .5 pt difference +/- per week over the season). Given that, VBD will push QB's down after the top 3 are drafted. If you really disagree, change the # of starting QB's in your league to 2.5 or 3.0 and that should prioritize QBs even more than what you are seeing. In my thinking, in a 12-team league, you could get two of the top 15 QBs back-to-back, even in later rounds and be fine, while scooping up other position players while other owners are grabbing QBs in early rounds.

 

RR

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On 7/26/2019 at 8:07 AM, rrobb said:
  1. Download the VBD Excel App.
  2. Click each position tab at the bottom.
  3. If any notes exist in Notes1, delete them.
  4. Save sheet.
  5. In DD Classic, on the "File" menu, click Import.
  6. Select "VBD Excel Spreadsheet".
  7. Choose the spreadsheet you cleared the Notes1 from.
  8. Ensure that the "Import Player Notes" check box is selected.
  9. Click "Start Import".
  10. After the import finishes, check that Notes1 is cleared out and click "Get Latest Projections" if desired.

RR

 

I've tried this several times to no avail.  Anyone else having this issue?  I can't clear my last year's notes.

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Close DD. Go into the directory where your DD is located, delete the PlayerNotes.dat file and then reopen DD.

 

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@Simon Shepherd @David Dodds @Joe Bryant

Is there ANY chance the Classic DD is available this year?  I know the plan was to ween it out but I really prefer it to the DD online and have relied on it for my drafts for years.  I'll even pay extra for it!

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4 hours ago, Deamon said:

@Simon Shepherd @David Dodds @Joe Bryant

Is there ANY chance the Classic DD is available this year?  I know the plan was to ween it out but I really prefer it to the DD online and have relied on it for my drafts for years.  I'll even pay extra for it!

Yes. We plan to have the Draft Dominator Classic this year. Should be ready in the next week. 

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On 5/12/2020 at 6:08 AM, Joe Bryant said:

Yes. We plan to have the Draft Dominator Classic this year. Should be ready in the next week. 

Thanks Joe!  I've been a subscriber for nearly 20 years.  While the online/mobile DD are good, the customization of the classic can't be beat.

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On 5/12/2020 at 6:08 AM, Joe Bryant said:

Yes. We plan to have the Draft Dominator Classic this year. Should be ready in the next week. 

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On 5/12/2020 at 5:08 AM, Joe Bryant said:

Yes. We plan to have the Draft Dominator Classic this year. Should be ready in the next week. 

@Simon Shepherd Do you guys know if there's any way to search for a player in the Classic DD, and it take you to them in the OVERALL rankings?  I love the program but the only flaw for me is that I often search for a player to see their overall rank, and it jumps to position rank (ex WR18) and I have to go back to Overall and scroll down through all the players trying to find WR18.  Would love it if the search just took you to that player in the overall ranks!

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44 minutes ago, Deamon said:

@Simon Shepherd Do you guys know if there's any way to search for a player in the Classic DD, and it take you to them in the OVERALL rankings?  I love the program but the only flaw for me is that I often search for a player to see their overall rank, and it jumps to position rank (ex WR18) and I have to go back to Overall and scroll down through all the players trying to find WR18.  Would love it if the search just took you to that player in the overall ranks!

Simon only does the Draft Dominator online. It's a radically different and much newer product. For questions on the Draft Dominator Classic, it's best to shoot an email to Bruce Henderson at henderson@footballguys.com as he handles everything for it. Thanks. 

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