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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread (4 Viewers)
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
It might be because you’ve just referred to everyone you’re speaking to as not being normal.
You mean they read into the future and went back in time to insult me. Awesome #### there.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
It wasn't Tim who started this. Tim popped in out of nowhere to chime in with his snark.
You should have tried apologizing instead of being part of the problem. But for some unknown reason, pointing out how AOC voted sent you into a rant.
squistion
Footballguy
No I did not. I responded to a post about some whataboutism alleged hypocrisy with a case of blatant hypocrisy by AOC. Regardless of whatever bs you wish to assume, you were way out of line. So the cesspool continues with this crap and you continue it along with the rest of the gang.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Possible hypocrisy? Is that where we are now. When one doesn't have a clear recollection otherwise we assume the worse and then call it possible hypocrisy. Possibly I am guilty of this, possibly not, who can say, the point is I may be unless I can prove the negative. Same for all others.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Trump compares AOC to Evita; AOC doesn’t seem to mind the comparison:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/ocasio-cortez-quotes-eva-peron-evita-trump.amp
My only question here is which of these two is being more stupid. It’s a tough one. I’m supremely confident that Trump’s knowledge of Eva Peron is limited to the Broadway musical (probably limited to “Don’t Cry for me Argentina”). His comparison is bigoted, sexist and inane.
But AOC’s quotes of Evita and her comment about a “woman of the people” ignores the fact that Eva Peron, despite being a populist, was essentially a right wing fascist married to a third rate Franco wannabe. Seriously AOC what’s next? Are you going to start quoting Freida Kahlo? How about La Passionista? At least, like you, they were left wing latinas ( though both agreed with Eva about the need for dictatorship).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/ocasio-cortez-quotes-eva-peron-evita-trump.amp
My only question here is which of these two is being more stupid. It’s a tough one. I’m supremely confident that Trump’s knowledge of Eva Peron is limited to the Broadway musical (probably limited to “Don’t Cry for me Argentina”). His comparison is bigoted, sexist and inane.
But AOC’s quotes of Evita and her comment about a “woman of the people” ignores the fact that Eva Peron, despite being a populist, was essentially a right wing fascist married to a third rate Franco wannabe. Seriously AOC what’s next? Are you going to start quoting Freida Kahlo? How about La Passionista? At least, like you, they were left wing latinas ( though both agreed with Eva about the need for dictatorship).
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
One of Eva Peron’s favorite pastimes: hiding Nazis wanted for war crimes!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/8735411/Eva-Peron-kept-Nazi-treasure-taken-from-Jews.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/8735411/Eva-Peron-kept-Nazi-treasure-taken-from-Jews.html
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I stopped reading with yet another BS accusation. Why are you being such an....? Seriously.
Both of you please stop acting like children and drop the back and forth. It's tiresome from both of you and annoying. Drop it.That you have to lie to try save some face is understandable. Public humiliation is uncomfortable and can lead some to take desperate measures.
"I was responding to a whataboutism with a whataboutism" is an interesting made-up defense to take, but as long as truth isn't an issue I probably would have gone with something that painted me in a better light. It's okay, I realize we're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
I'm in a generous mood so I'll accept your half-hearted attempt at an apology and we can leave it at that. I hope you can piece your self-confidence back together so I get a chance to hear some of the intelligent discussion I've been hearing about
If that's not acceptable to either of you, please find a new board.
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Ever notice how it's the same half-dozen posters who derail seemingly every thread with personal slapfights and back-seat modding?
Ever notice how not once do I start these fights. I post facts and/or opinions on a topic, and then the responses becomes personal. Truthfully, it is total BS that i get called out by the mods for simply pointing out the nonsense.
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
You are regularly and severely wronged, nearly to the point of martyrdom, and yet you soldier on manfully. Kudos to you for your fortitude good Sir!
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
It could be.FBG Moderator said:
But maybe you just meant to say that it isnt the nicest approach.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
If I may respond on behalf of the entire world, yes.IvanKaramazov said:
Gopher State
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Playing the victim card again. 
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Nancy Pelosi joins Joe Biden in the Racist Segregationist Club.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
While everyone amuses themselves with palace intrigue, AOC is doing real work. Yesterday she questioned the Fed Chairman on the Fed's recent policies on the relationship between unemployment and inflation (policies that protected the wealthy over the working class during the latter stages of the Obama presidency and quite possibly got Donald Trump elected) and got him to admit the Fed had it wrong.
I hope every poster that has insulted her intelligence and integrity takes the time to read that article and the embedded comments from respected economists.
ETA: Just in case some don't- she pursued a line of questioning and advocated for a policy that would help Donald Trump get reelected because she believes (with substantial support) that it's the right thing to do for America's working class.
I hope every poster that has insulted her intelligence and integrity takes the time to read that article and the embedded comments from respected economists.
ETA: Just in case some don't- she pursued a line of questioning and advocated for a policy that would help Donald Trump get reelected because she believes (with substantial support) that it's the right thing to do for America's working class.
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boots11234
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I don’t think Biden or Pelosi iare racists. I don’t like Joes policies and can’t stand Pelosi. It strikes me as lazy to every time call someone who disagrees with you a racist. The word really has no power anymore. It’s used as an attempt to get people to shut up. Let’s see if it works. AOC has made a powerful enemy doing this. That old bat 
is crafty. She better watch her back.
is crafty. She better watch her back.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Huge mistake by AOC. For as much as she hates Trump, stuff like this will only help him get re-elected. The Democrats eating their own is not the way to win back the WH.
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Max Power
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parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Has anybody argued she cant read? I dont think i have seen that criticism in here.
I always find Saikat's questions very insightful.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I get that. It makes sense that in a party with that many reps, the priorities and agendas will vary, but AOC going public with that accusation is a very bad look. Some things are better left said privately.
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Max Power
Footballguy
According to the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin, the House Dem house of cards is on the verge of collapse, thanks to the escalating tensions between Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi. As Twitchy told you, AOC now claims that accusing Nancy Pelosi of explicitly going after women of color doesn’t mean she thinks Pelosi is a racist. That spin’s not working on us … and it seems pretty safe to say at this point that it’s not going to work on some of Pelosi’s House allies:
ON BACKGROUND AS A SENIOR DEMOCRATIC AIDE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BLUE DOG COALITION:
“Let’s not forget the fact that AOC’s CoS called a group of members racist. This is a group of members led by an immigrant woman of color, and this group includes several other people of color 1/
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) July 11, 2019
including two black men who actually experienced the segregated South.” 2/2
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) July 11, 2019
^ the above sent as mass email.
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) July 11, 2019
ON BACKGROUND AS A SENIOR DEMOCRATIC AIDE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BLUE DOG COALITION:
“Let’s not forget the fact that AOC’s CoS called a group of members racist. This is a group of members led by an immigrant woman of color, and this group includes several other people of color 1/
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) July 11, 2019
including two black men who actually experienced the segregated South.” 2/2
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) July 11, 2019
^ the above sent as mass email.
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) July 11, 2019
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Am I understanding this right, calling AOC an immigrant? Guess some Dems need more education, too.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
All he is doing is stirring the pot. No reason to respect that aspect of him. Same with Jon Martin. Stir the pot just to spark up something and preach to his followers. No reason to respect that aspect either.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
You're following people because they appear to confirm what you have been already fed. The pot being stirred by people who are, probably, no where near either of these women doesn't help your argument... or cheering.
Max Power
Footballguy
Dan is pretty level headed from what I've seen. He isn't stirring the pot as much as stating his opinion on the matter.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Thx, still confused as to who "immigrant woman of color is" if not AOC. The chief of staff is a guy born in Texas.
BTW, do not take any of this as a defense of what she said.I hate that.
ETA_ OK, after more reading, I guess the woman in question is in the Blue Dog Coalition or New Democrats. Hopefully the term was applied accurately.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah...I respect his service to the country...but beyond that much of what he says doesn’t necessarily deserve respect.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Imagine being an AOC acolyte and criticizing another elected official for pot-stirring.
timschochet
Footballguy
I disagree that AOC hurts the Democrats. She actually will help the Democrats IF a moderate is the nominee.
AOC can be the Sistah Souljah of the 2020 campaign. Assuming the candidate is Harris or Biden, all they have to do is mildly repudiate AOC in order to position themselves firmly in the center and completely take away Trump’s best strategy.
AOC can be the Sistah Souljah of the 2020 campaign. Assuming the candidate is Harris or Biden, all they have to do is mildly repudiate AOC in order to position themselves firmly in the center and completely take away Trump’s best strategy.
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