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You get so wrapped up in your race thing sometimes.
As is evident by the many other countries and US states that have adopted it as a model for their own elections. Why just look at this illustrious list of countries and US states who have seen the wisdom of our EC model, where various smaller areas of particular territory are granted a certain number of winner-take-all "votes" in a territory-wide election, and upgraded their democratic process accordingly:
I ask because I don't know, but are member votes in the E.U. allocated strictly according to population. My belief that they are, roughly so, but not absolutely so, more or less like our system. Also I believe they have to cast their votes unanimously by country. More or less our model. If one is looking for an analogous model would that not be it?
If I understand you, you're talking about a legislative process, not a broad democratic one. That's similar to the process for our House of Representatives, not the process by which we elect our president.
Because it would pretty clearly get struck down as a violation of the U.S. constitution. See, e.g. Gray v. Sanders.
I'll defer to your expertise of course, but the linked Wikipedia entry suggests the problem in that case was in the execution and not the concept, no?
Yes I am obsessed with Trump. I admit it. He is the President, and affecting my life in profound and bad ways. AOC is a congresswoman and not even in jon’s district. Just a slight bit of difference I think.
Can you give us some measure of what it means to fade into irrelevancy so we can test whether your prediction comes true?
Just curious as to how Trump has impacted your personal life in profound and bad ways? I don`t like him either but I never really think about any POTUS on a daily basis like goes on here.
So why are you obsessed with what Jon posts about? Or care if he's obsessed with a politician?
Sure.
Well couldn't she make an effort to be spotted on a banana boat in the Bahamas with Lebron James and OBJ? Maybe she could have been at the MTV awards or hanging around an NFL training camp.
I actually figured she was still likely tweeting with the same regularity, but I just wasn't seeing it as often since Omar and Tlaib were getting the press in recent days. So after reading your post I went to her twitter page and it does look like she is simply not tweeting as often, which your reasoning makes sense. Also looks like she was on vacation out west.
....that is my third AOC post in the last two weeks. That is obsession? How many Trump posts have you, @Sheriff Bart, and @the moops made in the last two weeks? Over a hundred easy, and Tim's been on vacation in Italy most of that time. So many one-sided extreme hypocrites in this forum. Tim has 6 Trump posts in the last half day alone. A few posts about a progressive and this forum has a hissy fit. Being on recess has not stop her from Tweeting, ever. Her post rarely are about upcoming legislation. They were mostly about advancing Saikat's progressive worldview.
Serious question -- who cares? Why does it matter if some freshman MOC produces her own material or relies heavily on her staff for messaging?
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Because if she relies heavily on her staff then it proves that she represents the precise beliefs of the majority of the Democrat party. Or something.
If I've learned anything after reading this page, it's that it's because of obsession. From my notes:
We have every Democrat presidential candidate pimping some varient of Saikat's Green New Deal, which he admits was all about changing entire structure of our economy from a market-based capitalist economy to a socialistic state and just pinned the Green lable on it as an afterthought. It is important to understand the true nature of the programs that are being pushed and know that the spin they are saying about being fundamental in solving global warming is pure BS.
1. Correct.
If the interesting thing isn't about AOC, why did you spend pages and pages criticizing her for opposing the Amazon deal?
Because that was a hot topic at one time. Why is this forum so critical of discussions concerning progressive candidates. Are progressives some protected class of people here? Is this a progressive safe-zone of sorts. What is it. I bring up a legitimate point and all I get are people questioning my motives or mental stability. WTF is wrong with this place?
I wasn't being critical there I was just asking a question. I didn't question your mental stability. I guess I sorta questioned your motives, but only because your posting history in this thread is entirely inconsistent with someone that believes that "The interesting thing about AOC is not the individual candidate, it is about the organized effort behind her and what they are trying to accomplish."
My response was in general and not entirely directed at you. But 90 percent of the responses are directed at me instead of engaging in discussions. None of my ideas were preconceived. Everyone of them is based on facts as reported by legitimate news sources. AOC may very well have her own ideas, but Saikat set the agenda. He was 100 percent behind all the ideas in the Green New Deal, which AOC had zero input in. To me that is being a puppet even if she ultimately agrees with most of it.
These two statements are almost a perfect example of the issue I see you run into time and time again. One is a cogent well thought out post about a topic that would be a really good thread if it stayed on topic. The other is
garbage generalizing SOME of the pushback you get from a few posters as if the entire board is that way towards you. One of two things happens every single time. You either categorize the person pushing back as "lefist" or "the other side" or you go with the "what I was saying was....." then say something completely different (which often times is a pretty good point) and most often times never something any of us would have picked up without clarification.Some?The Commish said:These two statements are almost a perfect example of the issue I see you run into time and time again. One is a cogent well thought out post about a topic that would be a really good thread if it stayed on topic. The other is
Yes...someSome?
If I got 2 decent engaged responses for every 8 snarky responses or personalizations it would be a good day in this forum. And yeah, I am the problem for pointing out all the crap.
Yes, and 'some' American adults are overweight or obese, but that is still a large majority.
That's the majority, not some...most is also acceptable. There's no question you have a group on your hook. You know that. I know that. We both also know it's not the majority like you want it to be. If you want to travel into majority territory, the majority pushback in legit, cogent ways and I would also say I have empathy on the volume you face, but lack the sympathy on that front given you bring it on yourself by your gross generalizations and intentional twisting of their words to fit those gross generalizations. A perfect example of what I am talking about exists on this page and a couple pages prior where FG is attempting to engage you in a legitimate way.
I am done responding to all this bs. Either talk about the topic or don't. It is that simple.
OK, I'm assuming this counts as "on topic" because you spent a lot of time discussing it earlier in the thread. You were extremely critical of AOC's opposition to having Amazon HQ moved near her district. Some of us noted that the Amazon jobs associated with the headquarters would predominately go to people that are not currently living in AOC's district and so her constituents might not benefit all that much, but that housing prices in the areas would skyrocket, which would be a real detriment to her constituents if they are renters. I don't know the exact numbers in AOC's district but I think renters outnumber homeowners by a fairly substantial margin in most places in New York City. From what I recall you were fairly dismissive of that concern.
No you aren't. Just like you're never leaving this place despite all your
around doing so. You'd rather talk about this and avoid the topics....which is the ultimate irony. That's why you always respond to these sorts of posts instead of posts like the ones FG has been posing to you that you simply won't answer in any meaningful way.
Would you stop already. Is getting personal so engrained in your DNA that you can not resist?No you aren't. Just like you're never leaving this place despite all your
How many politicians run for office promising to "take our country back" from the opposing party?
