Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
Ugh, THIS is my last post in this discussion, I swear.
Being a puppet does not require that you take positions you disagree with. They simply did not 'support' her. They made her.
How many PAC's also have an LLC arm that receives "strategic consulting" fees from the campaigns?
Seems odd to run against something that wasn't even happening in their district
Yes, this is the wrinkle that Chakrabarti apparently came up with. It's common for political campaigns with similar ideology to use the same vendors for consulting and other services. As far as I know those vendors had not previously been associated directly with a PAC until these guys came along. But none of that turns AOC into a puppet or him into some dark mastermind behind the shadows. It's just a slightly different way to operate.
GWB
There is a huge difference between being influenced by someone vs. having all the shots called by someone. Besides, GWB picked his staff, not the other way around. It was common for the left to call Reagan or GWB puppets, but neither is remotely close to what went on with AOC.
I am not outraged by AOC, just pointing out how she came about and where her agenda originated from. It is more outrageous that laws are not written by our representatives and their staff, but by lobby groups that have ulterior motives.
Of course not. It just means you shouldnt take her seriously when she whines about how much her student loans cost.
I hate the student loan talk. It's why I'm not supporting Bernie. You're preaching to the choir here.
Then why did you post what you did? It is relevant information regarding AOC.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC 59m59 minutes ago
I tend to agree here....I don't think murdered is the right word...it's way too intimate.
It is a thread of several related tweets she did that she linked (see OP) something that Trump does all the time.
No ####.
Yes, that's exactly what I said. A fair and accurate summation of my post from a gentleman and a scholar. Well done, sir.
So let me get this straight. The two options which exists in the universe is they are either:
1. People are too stupid to realize what a brilliant caring person AOC is, or
2. They are too stupid to think for themselves and are just parroting what FoxNews tells them too.
Yep, only two friggin options. This place is unreal.
There were no "options" at all. There were two statements I strongly believe to be factual based on observation, personal knowledge, and lack of evidence to the contrary.
I was not talking about those two items, I was talking about the part I quoted. Your ridiculous characterization how pure and holy her motives be and how ignorant anyone who dares questions her is. It is really silly how people feel the need to belittle people. I captured the essence of your crap and stand by my characterization of the nonsense.
We told them to abandon their forward defenses and heavy guns to placate Turkey and then immediately pulled out and gave Turkey a green light to invade.
But if those two items are true (and they obviously are), then questioning her for getting an expensive haircut and/or complaining about student loans is, in fact, ignorant. That's what the word "ignorant" means. It's defined as "lacking knowledge and awareness." When there are things that are obvious to most informed observers (like the two items) and people say they don't know those obvious things, wouldn't you say they lack knowledge and awareness?
I was pointing out actual crap. To believe that the only possible way anyone could disagree is in bad faith is silly. I was not projecting evil motives and/or willful ignorance on the entire population who might happen to see the issue differently. But this forum endorses crappy tactics from the left and will defend them endlessly.squistion said:
Good thing you weren't trying to belittle him.
I have not talked about the two items because they are minor tidbits, but there are real reasons AOC could be seen as being hypocritical. AOC rhetoric is all about shared resources and equality. She is the probably the closest thing to a communist we have in DC. While there are millions of women who have dropped $250 on getting their hair done, there are over a hundred million who haven't. If she really endorsed economic equality, she would choose to live within the means of the masses and not the elite. So while you are correct in that there in general there is nothing outrageous about a $250 haircut, it can be viewed as counter to her rhetoric.TobiasFunke said:
Patrick Ewing's comments when the NBA was on strike come to mind. "We may make a lot of money..but we spend a lot of money too!"TobiasFunke said:
Patrick ewing received a lot of criticism.
Thanks for this. It had been a minute since I've seen one of these in the wild. Always good for a chuckle.
I wrote but then deleted two responses to this because I want to keep my posting privileges so I can talk Nationals for the next week. But it wasn't easy. This is a real piece of work, GB.
There was an interesting piece back in 2018, after AOC tweeted effusive praise for John McCain. The instant media superstardom always struck me as a little odd. The suspicions are not entirely without merit.
And I stand by that post. You could have simply made your point without some ridiculous gross generalizations about how all people who disagree or ignorant and/or act in bad faith. Despite your declaration of moral superiority there are reasons to mock AOC's act.
I'm persecuted in this cesspool, but here's a generalized criticism of everyone else who doesn't agree with me.
Bottom line is Cortez can afford to spend $500.00 on a haircut. I really don`t care for her views but it is her money and she can spend it as she sees fit.
