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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread (9 Viewers)
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I am sorry that I wasn't clear. I didn't look up the actual dates but I am going to assume you are correct, so I am going to respond "yes".
supermike80
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General Malaise
Footballguy
:highfive:
I can appreciate the fact that SuperMike was trying to impart some sort of lesson on me and further, he wanted to cast aspersions on liberals for needing leaders in their lives, but really, I used the word casually when referencing Rubio. And, as it turns out, SuperMIke did the same with Obama earlier this month. To bristle over it is just silly.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Exactly. You wanted to come in here and make a big old point and forgot that you TOO used the word 'leader' when referencing a politician. You did so casually and as a throw-away line, just like I did. So the lesson you were trying to teach me? Yeah....bollocks.
supermike80
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Look, I don't think of AOC or Rubio or any of these politicians as my personal leaders. But there is a reason why both of them publicized getting the vaccine. I think we can agree to that, no? Unless I have you pegged incorrectly, I think we BOTH want the Covid vaccinations to happen rapidly, successfully and to reach as many people as possible so we can move on with our lives and return to normalcy. Absent vaccination, I don't see that happening so it's important that BOTH SIDES encourage their bases to get it.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
This is the AOC thread. Not sure why we're even discussing leadership in here.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Well, see, we were talking about Marco Rubio being a lea.........................HEY! Wait a minute! You were making a joke, you jokey rascal you!
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I came in here to obsess about AOC and I got Marco Rubio and grammar.
Thats so 2020 of you guys. Thanks.
Thats so 2020 of you guys. Thanks.
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Well, voting for or against would imply knowing what's in it. Clearly, the only reasonable option would have been to abstain.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
We need every member of congress to have a thread. 435 threads detailing whatever every one of them say.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
What if she knows generally what’s in it, and although she obviously disagrees with much of the bill, she believes the negative consequences of the bill not passing greatly outweigh the parts of the bill that she may not agree with?
Rich Conway
Footballguy
I'm following up on her comment (implication, really) that she didn't know what was in it. Her tweet was absolutely correct. It's ridiculous to give someone a 5000+ page bill and expect a vote in hours.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Lets just go with the ones that have 10 million followers or more. That should narrow it down at least a few.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I agree! I think there should be a 3-5 day window to review the bill. But let’s be honest, most/much of this stuff is negotiated and probably 4k of the 5k pages are boilerplate.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Yes, thankfully.
I see former Blackwater employees of her brother, Eric Prince, have been pardoned.
squistion
Footballguy
Pelosi announces additional committee assignments for 117th Congress.
Oversight and Reform Cmte.:
• Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
• Congresswoman Katie Porter of California
• Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib of Michigan
• Congresswoman Cori Bush of Missouri
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1346651617161076736
Oversight and Reform Cmte.:
• Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
• Congresswoman Katie Porter of California
• Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib of Michigan
• Congresswoman Cori Bush of Missouri
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1346651617161076736
squistion
Footballguy
:( Sadly, I think she is right.
MSNBC@MSNBC· 5h
“There are no consequences in the Republican caucus for violence. No consequences for racism. No consequences for misogyny. No consequences for insurrection. And no consequences means that they condone it," Rep. Ocasio-Cortez says about the House GOP.
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/aoc-there-are-legitimate-white-supremacist-sympathizers-at-core-of-house-gop-100131909634?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
MSNBC@MSNBC· 5h
“There are no consequences in the Republican caucus for violence. No consequences for racism. No consequences for misogyny. No consequences for insurrection. And no consequences means that they condone it," Rep. Ocasio-Cortez says about the House GOP.
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/aoc-there-are-legitimate-white-supremacist-sympathizers-at-core-of-house-gop-100131909634?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
Rich Conway
Footballguy
It doesn't mean they condone it. It does, however, mean they are more concerned with self-preservation (by trying to not alienate those who do condone it) than condemning it.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Or it could mean many Republicans think it's a waste of time and energy better spent on tackling much higher current priorities like fighting the pandemic.
DaVinci
FairTaxguy
If only they thought the pandemic was a priority when they controlled the White House and Senate.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
ThisIf only they thought the pandemic was a priority when they controlled the White House and Senate.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
We need bi-partisanship to unify the country. Celebrating inflammatory AOC rhetoric about condoning violence, racism, mysogny, etc. is only going to send us backward.If only they thought the pandemic was a priority when they controlled the White House and Senate.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Exactly...then, confirming a supreme court justice was deemed important....but now, other things are unimportant.If only they thought the pandemic was a priority when they controlled the White House and Senate.
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Takes 10 seconds to denounce crazy like MTG. Instead, we get McCarthy organizing a call with his caucus to emphasize not denouncing her QAnon crazy.
Manster
Footballguy
DaVinci
FairTaxguy
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Democrats are the ones in control of this process. They are choosing which path to go down.
Instead of choosing a bipartisanship 50-vote censure that would take 0.5 seconds...they go for the political kill shot...which has no chance of passing, creates more divisiveness and diverts time and resources.
AOC and many in here are stuck in the past fighting yesterday's battles. Move on.
Manster
Footballguy
I disagree. I think she's completely overboard. Just as the left has been overboard for four years. This is just the climax
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Denouncing MTG and QAnon crazy is completely separate and independent of impeachment. McCarthy has literally nothing to do with the impeachment trial, as he's part of the House.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
To me, she's the (far) left version of Trump; no 'real' business being in politics, or at least took a fairly unconventional path to office, and her willingness to plow through anything/anyone she sees as a foe--facts and truth be damned--is building up a resume that she will use as soon as she's eligible to run for President. With her high-profile appearances that haven't really done anything significant legislatively and 'squad', she's building a cult of personality; fortunately for us so far, she doesn't have much of a personality for others to rally behind, but I recon the more attention she receives from her detractors, the more her reputation will grow to the point that it will be ideological suicide to not follow her.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
She is the epitome of everything that is wrong with politics. She operates only on emotions and hyperbole. 0% substance.
sho nuff
Footballguy
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Clever responses in that link:
"I know this GameStop stuff is funny, but you have to remember this is hurting real people who own multiple boats."
and ..
"Hedge fund CEO: 'I lost $3 billion, my company, my home, and now my wife.' Me: 'Have you considered budgeting?'"
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
The stuff costs more than market value because they are intended to be campaign contributions. You guys come up with weird stuff to criticize.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Weird, because AOC says it's because they are made in America and that's how much they cost to pay a living wage.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
This isn't a situation where only one can be true. I imagine the merch does cost them more to produce for those reasons. But it doesn't cost $58. The campaign charges more than the sweatshirt is worth as a fundraiser. This is not unusual in politics or charity or anything. If you get a tote bag from NPR for donating $100, it's not because the tote bag is worth $100. The idea that raising money for your campaign is somehow improper is just bizarre, considering the huge amount of time every single member of Congress spends raising money for their campaigns.
I would much rather have my Congressperson raise money by offering catchy sweatshirts at inflated prices than have her raise money by calling up rich donors and begging like most politicians do.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
True. I imagine their goal is to take X amount of money from each sale as a campaign donation. If they were made in Taiwan or China they would still take X amount, but the total cost would be like 30 bucks
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
It could be a fun diversion to find other stuff being offered in exchange for campaign contributions where the product's value seems less than the donation required to get it.
Here's a Trump coin you can get for $20.20
Seems to me the sweatshirt is a much better value.
Here's a Trump coin you can get for $20.20
Seems to me the sweatshirt is a much better value.
50% price reduction! lol The actual cost saving for having clothing made in China is more like 5%.
I thought AOC would be a unifier. A unifier as in no-body would be defending her crazy stuff in here. Yet here you are. And still making comparisons to someone who isn't even in office.
Let me let you in on a little secret:
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Neither of those links indicate that AOC's merch is made by the same place as those other candidates.
AOC's full quote that I saw said more than just "Made in America" it said "and paid a living wage" or something. So if she's telling the truth it's entirely possible that her merch costs more to produce.
But again, this is all irrelevant. She is selling these to raise funds. She could charge $500 for the sweatshirt if she wants. People aren't just buying the sweatshirt, they're getting the sweatshirt in exchange for donating.
I won't address your broader criticisms against AOC, I think they're trash but we've been discussing those all thread and it doesn't seem worth it to go through this all over again.
You're right, it's irrelevant because her claim is bogus. You bought it hook line and sinker.
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