cloppbeast
Footballguy
There's an excuse somewheres lol.
You make valid points which explain why he fell to the 5th round. Sometimes those guys work out though. Why did AB fall to the 5th? (Not intending to compare them)
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You make valid points which explain why he fell to the 5th round. Sometimes those guys work out though. Why did AB fall to the 5th? (Not intending to compare them)
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
shoecrew22
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
It's a game of opportunity. At this level, everyone is good, talented, and athletic (except for Allison, ha! I had to...). So it comes down to who has the opportunities and who takes full advantages of those.
Moore had the opportunity in training camp and he dropped it, quite literally. Next man up. MVS has, so far, done a fantastic job with his opportunities. And when you're playing with Rodgers, all you need is to keep earning those opportunities to be fantasy gold.
"Any time he went deep," tailback Marlon Mack said, "he was 2 feet away from the DB and catching the ball."
This is what I see in GB
I'm 50/50 in redraft.
2 months ago I'd say one of these rookies was going to out-play Allison at some point during the first half of the season and be starting. My money was on Moore.
1 month ago I'd say Allison has the job locked up for 2018
Today I'd say it's a 50/50 chance that MVS continues to earn more looks, especially because his speed is something that GB is missing big time. If he keeps it up I wouldn't be surprised if he even earned some playing time from Randall Cobb, or they had specific WR sets where he was in over Allison/Cobb.
He is at the point where he requires an injury to earn some playing time, and that's exactly what's happened, and he's done really well. So at this point we don't know if he's earned more targets/playing time or if they will continue to ease him in slowly. He's a play maker, and that's what this offense needs. If I had a deep bench I'd stash him, but my redraft is very short benches so he remains on our WW. In fact, Cobb was released, which was weird. Too bad I don't have roster room.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Exciting article until you realize he only ended up having 22 receptions that year despite the incredible hype the article lays out.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
For sure. There’s always good players who slip through the cracks. My best MSV comp is Tyrell Williams.
As for Brown, it was a combo of small school, small player at 5-10, 186 and a 4.56 40.
Interesting stat. In week 4 MVS played 54 out of 76 snaps in the slot. In week 5 again he played most of the snaps in the slot. Could it be that Rodgers now has a whole new element to his arsenal? A 6’4 WR with a 4.37 40yard dash. You all have heard of Nayheim Hines? The fastest RB combine with a 4.38 40yard dash. Uh yeah MVS is faster. Except out of the slot he goes against #2 #3 corners and safeties. He’s going to win tons of matchups including lobs in the redzone. Cobb’s trade rumors..swampy. Injured. FA next year.
BUY MVS
BUY MVS
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
I have top waiver priority in our dynasty league and have been holding it for what seems like forever. Is this guy that kind of grab? Waivers are very thin and there just hasn't been anything worthwhile to use it on yet.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Does this reset in 2019 or would you carry this top spot until you use it?
I'm surprised MVS is on waivers and I can see how you're seriously considering grabbing him. Consider this: Cobb is a FA after this year and GB doesn't seem like they want to bring him back. They are impressed with Allison and MVS is showing good signs of being a hit. MVS will at least assume the role he had last week and will have this week (I believe Cobb is likely out... I might be wrong). That can be a solid 6-10 targets a game. And then there's always the possibility of passing up Allison.
I am not sure who else you'd be saving that spot for, especially if you have deep rosters and WW is thin.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Opportunity to catch passes from Rodgers without much standing in his way after this year. Great upside.
Plus you can't take it with you, the waiver priority that is.
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
There is no way Packers would retain Cobb and he most certainly will leave after this season. Packers have recently signed Rodgers a mega contract extension as well as other FAs (i.e. Jimmy Graham) in recent off-seasons. So, one can see why Packers' new GM went hard on late rookie drafts in Moore, ESB, and MVS. 
Biabreakable
Footballguy
The best thing about this guy is his name is so long it covers his stats in the box score.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Allison is missing his chance. likely he comes back and is lost in the shuffle.
This wagon needs is about to leave full steam. all aboard
Frank Black
Footballguy
As an owner of Allison and MVS, I'm relieved to have clarity. I'm starting MVS with confidence this week.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Interesting, I need to start one of Beasley, Traq Smith, or MVS in ppr. As of now going with T Smith. Will monitor closely, if Cobb is out will go MVS.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Locked and loaded at flex.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Hyphenated players always get a bump in my rankings. Obvious he's the Smith-Schuster of 2018.
shoecrew22
Footballguy
Debating starting him over Baldwin
mr. peanut
Footballguy
I'm not going against Baldwin this week. I'll let you know when I do because he will score twice.
I dropped Allison for him. It looks like he is going to out perform some household names in the coming weeks, with or without hyphens. I like his chances Sunday night as GB will most likely have more success through the air than on the ground, and the Steelers should try to run more than pass on the Ravens.
Eights
Footballguy
The exact same move I made, from here on out I believe he'll be the #2 WR. Cobb can't stay healthy, Allison has had a concussion, hammy injury and now a groin injury. Rogers has stated he's impressed with him thus far and MVS is earning his trust, he's worked out with Randy Moss, puts in the time to study the play book and never makes the same mistake twice.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/02/packers-rookie-wr-marquez-valdes-scantling-likely-to-start-fifth-straight-game/
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/31/rookie-wr-marquez-valdes-scantling-attempts-to-master-packers-playbook/
https://lombardiave.com/2018/11/03/packers-marquez-valdes-scantling-stay/
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Bummed I missed on this guy, have a good feeling about him. Just couldn’t sort out the depth chart of who would be next up for the young guys on the roster.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I got lucky and he was dropped in both of my dynasty leagues. I was quiet about him and just patient. I still own J'Mon Moore in both, and in one of the leagues I had ESB rostered (just sold)... wanted the guy who emerged no matter what, ha! MVS had the least amount of news in the preseason. I was hearing a lot of great things about him
From what I hear Moore is progressing well this year, so I am holding until next season to see how it shakes out.
GB is likely drafting a WR next year, but MVS is going to be starting
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Starting him with confidence
7 players on a bye (not a typo) but I stand by my statement
7 players on a bye (not a typo) but I stand by my statement
E. St. Brown. 4.48 speed. catches everything. May even pass up MVS. I own both now. Cobb is gone after this year and Geronimo is a ham & egg #4 at best. I'll have the #2 and #4 with Rodgers throwing to them and if Davante goes down I'll have the new Nelson/Cobb TD a week duo.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Same for me.... but Will Fuller opened a spot for me to grab MVS as WR5. I like the schedule for him and see a value in more than just Dynasty format. Keeper value is climbing too so he has merit in my main $ league (12 team ppr keep 3 + 1 Rookie)
I am torn between MVS & Tre’Quan Smith as WR4 this week (OBJ on bye). Cooks, Jo Brown & Sanders are locks...
Interseptopus
Footballguy
check out the playoff schedule 
3rd, 9th, 7th worst defenses against wrs
3rd, 9th, 7th worst defenses against wrs
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
currently starting over Lockett. that may change but I feel like Locketts luck in the endzone is going to run out eventually, and MVS stands to see a lot of targets
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Keenan Cole cut for MVS
After Cole won me a game or 2 last year its been horrible watching him struggle this year
After Cole won me a game or 2 last year its been horrible watching him struggle this year
Picked up DJ Moore this week. Now debating Moore vs. MVS.
Think I'm holding Moore.
Big question is, how much potential is there for MVS to lock down the #2 WR role with Cobb still hanging around, a healthy Allison rebounding, and that other guy whose name I can't pronounce in the mix? Rodgers will throw to anyone.
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Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Gotta hold on Boyd personally. My question is Ridley or MVS? Allison doubtful to prolly out. Cobb prolly plays a tad injured and catches a few balls and then there's MVS. Tall, athletic, learning, has produced - is a top 3-4 target for Rodgers and NE will not focus on him.
Play MVS in the Flex or Ridley is my decision. Or Cobb?
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The dirty birds are on the road vs the skins d that added haha. I feel a few monster julio games where their isn’t much left for others coming, as is the rookie wall. More of a ros response I know, but MVS shouldn’t have to worry about any of those things. I personally would play the guy in a high profile TV game with little competition for touches and a great Qb.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I hear ya on that one... trying to work out a 2-1 trade (Cooks & Collins for J White), which opens the door for MVS or Cobb? Cobb seems to be rated higher by most everyone except Bloom. Bloom kinda likes MVS. MVS or Cobb?
Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
It’s all compelling...just don’t know ros if I want to drop Ridley for MVS. That’s what it comes down to with me.
Understandable. Parting ways with Ridley vs Allison are two different things, even for redraft. That’s why I suggested Boyd, because the Bengals will find new ways to disappoint.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Boyd has been too good and with Green now seeing a foot specialist there is no way.
ive got MVS selected and ready to drop Moore (have them pretty close in ranking) and may pull the trigger to have a backup plan if Michel can’t go as my flex
leftcoastheel
Footballguy
Dude seriously? I have Boyd on several teams - no way I would drop him let alone not flex him every week. What's this all about?
In response to his wideout choices, I was merely suggesting something I would myself consider. Boyd is a fine wideout. The Bengals rarely finish strong and being down and having to throw to a guy that will possibly be receiving the defenses best players? It’s not a stretch.
