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2018 Ryder Cup - Sept. 28-30, 2018 Le Golf National Paris, France

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US needs full points from Thomas and Koepka, if they do that they start to gain momentum and should be able to tie up the points giving the matches behind them.

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3 hours ago, JaxBill said:

I'm expecting Finau to get boatraced. Fleetwood has played well and likes this course - won Euro tour event here.

At least i got the boatrace part right. Unexpected point for US IMO.

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3 hours ago, JaxBill said:

I'm expecting Finau to get boatraced. Fleetwood has played well and likes this course - won Euro tour event here.

Update?

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4 hours ago, Jefferson the Caregiver said:

Rory is such a turtle these days, probably wasting JT on him.

USA doesn't get to make that call. They are visitors. 

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1 hour ago, Johnny Bing said:

Ugh the putting. Good lord. 

Greens are shaggy as early 90s centerfold 

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Good Lord, Garcia leaves the green wide open and Ricky barely finds it after giving his best 3AM WhatsYourNameAgain squint

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What is that string across the 18th? Is that a camera?  Seems annoying. Is it possible to hit it?

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45 minutes ago, Joe T said:

This should be Tiger and Phil’s last Ryder Cup.

They shouldn't have even been in this to begin with.

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So we took a team over there that can't hit it straight and can't make big putts.  Meanwhile, Europe only has 2 of those types in Rory and Rahm.  Their other 10 are grinders.

In retrospect we should make captains picks that fit the course, rather than those playing the best.  Three of the captains - Furyk, Kuchar, and Johnson would have played great on this course.  Kisner is another that comes to mind as a great putter.

US captains picks as far as I remember ...   Tiger got 0.  Phil got 0.  Finau got 1.  DeChambeau got 0.  I may be off a bit, but there's your answer to why the U.S. lost.

At Whistling Straights we should make the course 7600 yards, soft, and trim the rough to 1 inch over 280 yards from the tee.

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4 minutes ago, Brunell4MVP said:

So we took a team over there that can't hit it straight and can't make big putts.  Meanwhile, Europe only has 2 of those types in Rory and Rahm.  Their other 10 are grinders.

In retrospect we should make captains picks that fit the course, rather than those playing the best.  Three of the captains - Furyk, Kuchar, and Johnson would have played great on this course.  Kisner is another that comes to mind as a great putter.

US captains picks as far as I remember ...   Tiger got 0.  Phil got 0.  Finau got 1.  DeChambeau got 0.  I may be off a bit, but there's your answer to why the U.S. lost.

At Whistling Straights we should make the course 7600 yards, soft, and trim the rough to 1 inch over 280 yards from the tee.

I’m no golf expert at all but it’s hilarious to me that a guy like Bubba Watson is on this Ryder cup team. Who couldn’t see that being a disaster?

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4 minutes ago, Brunell4MVP said:

So we took a team over there that can't hit it straight and can't make big putts.  Meanwhile, Europe only has 2 of those types in Rory and Rahm.  Their other 10 are grinders.

In retrospect we should make captains picks that fit the course, rather than those playing the best.  Three of the captains - Furyk, Kuchar, and Johnson would have played great on this course.  Kisner is another that comes to mind as a great putter.

US captains picks as far as I remember ...   Tiger got 0.  Phil got 0.  Finau got 1.  DeChambeau got 0.  I may be off a bit, but there's your answer to why the U.S. lost.

At Whistling Straights we should make the course 7600 yards, soft, and trim the rough to 1 inch over 280 yards from the tee.

Here is the thing about Captain’s picks, the Captain can pick whoever he wants. 

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Finau was a perfectly acceptable pick.  I don't see how you keep Tiger off the team in any situation.  Guy is for all intents world #1 in recent month or two.  

Johnny calling out the captains picks.  

Phil was an abortion of a pick.  That much is clear.  Chambeau....dunno.  Maybe.   

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1 minute ago, Capella said:

I’m no golf expert at all but it’s hilarious to me that a guy like Bubba Watson is on this Ryder cup team. Who couldn’t see that being a disaster?

Bubba qualified for the team, couldn’t keep him off it.

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1 minute ago, Capella said:

I’m no golf expert at all but it’s hilarious to me that a guy like Bubba Watson is on this Ryder cup team. Who couldn’t see that being a disaster?

He qualified.  Not sure what you are gonna do about that.

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Just now, JuniorGong said:

Bubba qualified for the team, couldn’t keep him off it.

I know, just seems like a dumb system. I know it’s not changing or anything. 

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Just now, Capella said:

I know, just seems like a dumb system. I know it’s not changing or anything. 

It changes basically every time they lose.  

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Just now, WhatDoIKnow said:

Tiger is one of the hottest golfers in the world right now.  :shrug: 

So?  His record at the Ryder Cup trumps that.

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Just now, jiffy said:

So?  His record at the Ryder Cup trumps that.

There's absolutely no precedence for that sort of decision.  I think perhaps you limit his outings since he played in the lead in the prior week.  You could have made an argument he plays Friday PM and see where things are at that point and consider just sending him out first on Sunday, or PM Saturday if nobody is playing well.

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This loss falls squarely on Furyk for captains picks and terrible pairings. He is too nice. 

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Lot of craziness in here.  There's a reason the US has only won in Europe twice in the last 30 years.  It's hard to beat the Europeans at their game.  Believe me, this course was a completely different style of golf than most of the US was used to.

They didn't cut the rough for 2 months.  Even the US Open doesn't go as crazy as they did.  

They narrowed the fairways down so that at 280+ yards almost all the fairways were barely 20 yards across to take away the US's length advantage.  

They had the greens running much slower than the championship speed the US courses are known for.

 

It's a big deal to be able to set up a course to your team's advantage.  It's an even bigger deal to have 50,000 fans cheering for your side.  Was it still disappointing?  Yes, but it wasn't surprising.

If I'm the US Captain in 2020, I'm asking Whistling Straights to widen the fairways to 50-60 yards across and to cut every bit of rough on the course to 1-2 inches.  No long thick rough, no fescue.  Just short and easy for any strong player to hit out of.  Let's see our big bombers swing like they're in a scramble all weekend.

 Then, roll all the greens to a 13+ and shave all the false edges and run offs down, so that a 2-3 club difference in iron length becomes a huge advantage.  Give some of that home cooking back to them.

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38 minutes ago, encaitar said:

Lot of craziness in here.  There's a reason the US has only won in Europe twice in the last 30 years.  It's hard to beat the Europeans at their game.  Believe me, this course was a completely different style of golf than most of the US was used to.

They didn't cut the rough for 2 months.  Even the US Open doesn't go as crazy as they did.  

They narrowed the fairways down so that at 280+ yards almost all the fairways were barely 20 yards across to take away the US's length advantage.  

They had the greens running much slower than the championship speed the US courses are known for.

 

It's a big deal to be able to set up a course to your team's advantage.  It's an even bigger deal to have 50,000 fans cheering for your side.  Was it still disappointing?  Yes, but it wasn't surprising.

If I'm the US Captain in 2020, I'm asking Whistling Straights to widen the fairways to 50-60 yards across and to cut every bit of rough on the course to 1-2 inches.  No long thick rough, no fescue.  Just short and easy for any strong player to hit out of.  Let's see our big bombers swing like they're in a scramble all weekend.

 Then, roll all the greens to a 13+ and shave all the false edges and run offs down, so that a 2-3 club difference in iron length becomes a huge advantage.  Give some of that home cooking back to them.

When all you got is a hammer better hope it's a nail.

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55 minutes ago, encaitar said:

Lot of craziness in here.  There's a reason the US has only won in Europe twice in the last 30 years.  It's hard to beat the Europeans at their game.  Believe me, this course was a completely different style of golf than most of the US was used to.

They didn't cut the rough for 2 months.  Even the US Open doesn't go as crazy as they did.  

They narrowed the fairways down so that at 280+ yards almost all the fairways were barely 20 yards across to take away the US's length advantage.  

They had the greens running much slower than the championship speed the US courses are known for.

 

It's a big deal to be able to set up a course to your team's advantage.  It's an even bigger deal to have 50,000 fans cheering for your side.  Was it still disappointing?  Yes, but it wasn't surprising.

If I'm the US Captain in 2020, I'm asking Whistling Straights to widen the fairways to 50-60 yards across and to cut every bit of rough on the course to 1-2 inches.  No long thick rough, no fescue.  Just short and easy for any strong player to hit out of.  Let's see our big bombers swing like they're in a scramble all weekend.

 Then, roll all the greens to a 13+ and shave all the false edges and run offs down, so that a 2-3 club difference in iron length becomes a huge advantage.  Give some of that home cooking back to them.

i don't understand any of this, but i am convinced this is the way to go.  

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4 hours ago, Chemical X said:

fowler will never win a major.  he is awful, like phil awful.

He's definitely not a closer.  I think he will eventually get one though, he seems to get himself into position through Saturday enough.   One of these times he will string it together for the whole weekend. In general he is an overrated golfer, with nothing to show.

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