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Week 7 Buy Low/ Sell High

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1 hour ago, oddsbodkins said:

Don't know what I did (bought low or sold high) but I just traded for Amari. Gave up Robby Anderson and Sterling and got Cooper and DeSean Jackson.

Ill be praying for you. Pretty fair deal imo I just have no faith in Cooper’s production. I don’t think it’s his fault but really not sure what is going on out there in Oakland. He has shown he can do it. Not sure it can all be put on Carr either. 

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15 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

Well done Elevencents.

I may offer:  Thielen/Cooper/Ingram for K. Allen/ M. Jones and his choice of Burkhead/Cohen but unsure myself.

I love this thread because people throw out ideas and other people end up making trades because of it.

 

Yup, that’s why I mentioned it. Sounded like an AC question but was legitimately thinking out loud. I like seeing the value other leagues have for players. I never would have considered trading ADP until someone had mentioned it in his thread. 

And I think that’s a great move on your part. Not high on Cooper or Ingram’s SOS and you’re one week closer to him returning so makes him more appealing. 

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Yeah I started the thread, I have no problem with people thinking out load.  We are talking buy/low and sell/high on a number players and many people's opinions help generate trade offers. Glad that one was accepted for you.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

Ill be praying for you. Pretty fair deal imo I just have no faith in Cooper’s production. I don’t think it’s his fault but really not sure what is going on out there in Oakland. He has shown he can do it. Not sure it can all be put on Carr either. 

I probably sold low! If McCown was the QB in NYJ, I'd have kept Anderson. Still, it's early and Cooper is healthy... good gamble as my WR3.

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1 minute ago, oddsbodkins said:

I probably sold low! If McCown was the QB in NYJ, I'd have kept Anderson. Still, it's early and Cooper is healthy... good gamble as my WR3.

I would have sold for that upside.  I'm on the other side of things might offer Thielen/Cooper/Ingram to the Kamara owner for  K.Allen/Marvin Jones and whoever to make it 3 for 3.

 

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5 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

I would have sold for that upside.  I'm on the other side of things might offer Thielen/Cooper/Ingram to the Kamara owner for  K.Allen/Marvin Jones and whoever to make it 3 for 3.

 

I'm lower on Jones when Golladay is on the field. Still, Lions looks like the could be bad bad so might be lots of targets for everyone. Thielen is so solid but Allen is a step above anyone listed. That said, I'd be surprised if he took that deal even to own the entire Saints backfield. 

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Kind of off topic but I'm trying to buy on Kittle before the price sky rockets. Started out offering Barber. He has Engram already and is weak at RB.

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4 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

Kind of off topic but I'm trying to buy on Kittle before the price sky rockets. Started out offering Barber. He has Engram already and is weak at RB.

don't think it should be too difficult.  In a few of my leagues he was actually a FA.  It might be harder with all the TE injuries than anything.

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

Well done Elevencents.

I may offer:  Thielen/Cooper/Ingram for K. Allen/ M. Jones and his choice of Burkhead/Cohen but unsure myself.

@Hot Sauce Guy

I love this thread because people throw out ideas and other people end up making trades because of it.

 

Doesn’t hurt to offer, but man - who’s eant to give away a top 4 WR for a dude who just scored for 2 points, a suspended RB & Thielen? 

:o 

some of these make me cringe. If that gets accepted, your league-mate is way too trusting and not all that observant. 

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56 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

Yup, that’s why I mentioned it. Sounded like an AC question but was legitimately thinking out loud.

Technically this entire topic is, but who cares. 

:lol: 

 

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1 minute ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Technically this entire topic is, but who cares. 

:lol: 

 

Haha fair point. Must say, I’m really enjoying this thread. A lot of good discussion. Will look forward to this weekly. 

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1 minute ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Technically this entire topic is, but who cares. 

:lol: 

 

last year there were a couple "board police" trying to shut it down.

It's like they want just a list of buy/low and sell/high with no discussion of what type of trades or offers are being made based on them.  If it has to go to the AC forum then so be it.  Just one more place i'll have to click to.

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3 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

last year there were a couple "board police" trying to shut it down.

It's like they want just a list of buy/low and sell/high with no discussion of what type of trades or offers are being made based on them.  If it has to go to the AC forum then so be it.  Just one more place i'll have to click to.

I think it’s fine on here. It’s wednesday FFS. 

When real NFL news starts coming out tomorrow, other topics will get bumped. 

;) 

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In a league in which I'm deep at WR I'm moving Green and McCoy for David Johnson.

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18 minutes ago, SameSongNDance said:

In a league in which I'm deep at WR I'm moving Green and McCoy for David Johnson.

Wow

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20 minutes ago, SameSongNDance said:

In a league in which I'm deep at WR I'm moving Green and McCoy for David Johnson.

I have been eyeing DJ myself. If I trade for him I have him in the 9th round next year. How do you see his situation? I know he is gonna get his one way or another regardless of the team performance, he is one of those talents, but I kind of want to see what Rosen looks like running the offense to see if he is really worth going after. Arizona just looked so lost on offense. Was very reminiscent of 2 (?) years ago when it was just a dumpster fire and their defense single handedly kept them in games. 

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12 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

I have been eyeing DJ myself. If I trade for him I have him in the 9th round next year. How do you see his situation? I know he is gonna get his one way or another regardless of the team performance, he is one of those talents, but I kind of want to see what Rosen looks like running the offense to see if he is really worth going after. Arizona just looked so lost on offense. Was very reminiscent of 2 (?) years ago when it was just a dumpster fire and their defense single handedly kept them in games.

I'm trying to gauge just how bad ARI is versus just how good WAS is. Last year WAS was the most injured team in the NFL. According to Warren Sharp, they had the 2nd most injured RB unit, 2nd most injured TE unit, 2nd most injured OL, 4th most injured LB unit, 8th most injured DL unit and the 12th most injured DB unit. The only person who stayed upright was Kirk. They could feasibly be a 10-11 win team this year which could put the ARI beating into context. WAS homers could provide a lot more insight than me though. I do know they looked very good on both sides of the ball last week.

Amongst all RBs last week, DJ was tied for the 3rd most RZ carries/targets (5) and tied for the 3rd highest target share (25%). ARI just didn't run a many plays on offense because Bradford couldn't sustain any drives and AP ran all over them. ARI only had 53 offensive snaps which was the 2nd least and they were dead last in time of possession. When doing my projections and looking back at McCoy lead offenses I don't remember pace or time of possession being an issue and consider last week to generally be an outlier.

As for Rosen. I liked what I saw from him during the preseason. At the least I don't see how he can play much worse than Bradford did last week. Why the #### do teams continue to give Bradford money? I don't get it. 

 

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Great stuff, thanks. And I 100% agree on Bradford - same song and dance with him (sorry I literally started typing it and then realized what I was doing :lmao:). He looked like a kid that lost his puppy on the sideline. Just no confidence there, and no signs of leading the team. I hope they go to Rosen sooner than later like the Jets did. I’m not sure on the details of Bradford’s contract. 

Maybe I’ll see what sort of offer I can put out there this week. I think he is going to only improve moving forward so now is the time to scoop DJ. 

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Just lost Walker and I am fairly top heavy at WR, so I sold Josh Gordon for Kittle and Crabtree in a 12 team league.  Guy also had Gronk so Kittle was pure trade bait. 

Kinda wish I could use Gordon against the Saints this week, but very happy to get Kittle after what I've seen so far. 

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I avoided McCoy in all leagues this year. 

But he is a perfect buy low candidate. Yes, Buffalo sucks. But I'd totally trade for McCoy right now.

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11 minutes ago, jdoggydogg said:

I avoided McCoy in all leagues this year. 

But he is a perfect buy low candidate. Yes, Buffalo sucks. But I'd totally trade for McCoy right now.

I would NEVER trade for him. That offense is as inept as any in the league

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8 minutes ago, FGITLOTR said:

I would NEVER trade for him. That offense is as inept as any in the league

Chris Harris said this today, and it's true: no NFL offense is that bad all season.

McCoy can be had for cheap, and better days lie ahead.

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12 hours ago, oddsbodkins said:

Don't know what I did (bought low or sold high) but I just traded for Amari. Gave up Robby Anderson and Sterling and got Cooper and DeSean Jackson.

i think you got an absolute steal with that deal

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a completely flying under the radar type guy is Aaron Jones.J. Williams is a poor stop-gap at best. Jones comes back NEXT week, get him now..weeks 3,4,5 for GB? how about games vs  3 bad run defenses  - Washington next week - yeah, the Redskins defense is not good against the run , they played a hapless Az team last week, let's remember this IS a gruden led team doomed to implode...the other games are against Buffalo, and the Lions..so 3 absolutely JUICY matchups in his first 3 weeks back.then the other weak run defenses like the Niners, Patriots, Dolphins, Seahawks, Cards, Falcons, among others. Jones has game and if there's a silver lining to the injury to Rodgers the other night it is that GB will likely try to pound the ball in coming weeks..

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5 hours ago, SameSongNDance said:

In a league in which I'm deep at WR I'm moving Green and McCoy for David Johnson.

I love that trade for you.  Johnson is and will be a beast. 

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14 minutes ago, Tanner9919 said:

a completely flying under the radar type guy is Aaron Jones.J. Williams is a poor stop-gap at best. Jones comes back NEXT week, get him now..weeks 3,4,5 for GB? how about games vs  3 bad run defenses  - Washington next week - yeah, the Redskins defense is not good against the run , they played a hapless Az team last week, let's remember this IS a gruden led team doomed to implode...the other games are against Buffalo, and the Lions..so 3 absolutely JUICY matchups in his first 3 weeks back.then the other weak run defenses like the Niners, Patriots, Dolphins, Seahawks, Cards, Falcons, among others. Jones has game and if there's a silver lining to the injury to Rodgers the other night it is that GB will likely try to pound the ball in coming weeks..

Trying to use this idea and package Jones, J. Williams and Marvin Jones for Dalvin Cook

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4 hours ago, hounder said:

Trying to use this idea and package Jones, J. Williams and Marvin Jones for Dalvin Cook

Good luck. Packaging a bunch of junk for a gem never works in my league.  

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10 hours ago, Wrigley said:

Wow

wow what?  cant figure out which side you're wowing for.  2nd+4th for 1st seems fair.

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7 hours ago, Tanner9919 said:

a completely flying under the radar type guy is Aaron Jones.J. Williams is a poor stop-gap at best. Jones comes back NEXT week, get him now..weeks 3,4,5 for GB? how about games vs  3 bad run defenses  - Washington next week - yeah, the Redskins defense is not good against the run , they played a hapless Az team last week, let's remember this IS a gruden led team doomed to implode...the other games are against Buffalo, and the Lions..so 3 absolutely JUICY matchups in his first 3 weeks back.then the other weak run defenses like the Niners, Patriots, Dolphins, Seahawks, Cards, Falcons, among others. Jones has game and if there's a silver lining to the injury to Rodgers the other night it is that GB will likely try to pound the ball in coming weeks..

This is a great post! 

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i was high on Aaron Jones too BUT he is not as good in pass protection as Williams.

Rodgers is ailing. What do you think the Pack will do? Protect the best player in NFL!

Just food for thought...

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11 hours ago, jdoggydogg said:

I avoided McCoy in all leagues this year. 

But he is a perfect buy low candidate. Yes, Buffalo sucks. But I'd totally trade for McCoy right now.

Was just offered Shady for Hilton. 

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Just sold Mixon for Gronk in my keep 4 league.

Already had Gurley and Barkley.

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14 hours ago, SameSongNDance said:

I'm trying to gauge just how bad ARI is versus just how good WAS is. Last year WAS was the most injured team in the NFL. According to Warren Sharp, they had the 2nd most injured RB unit, 2nd most injured TE unit, 2nd most injured OL, 4th most injured LB unit, 8th most injured DL unit and the 12th most injured DB unit. The only person who stayed upright was Kirk. They could feasibly be a 10-11 win team this year which could put the ARI beating into context. WAS homers could provide a lot more insight than me though. I do know they looked very good on both sides of the ball last week.

Amongst all RBs last week, DJ was tied for the 3rd most RZ carries/targets (5) and tied for the 3rd highest target share (25%). ARI just didn't run a many plays on offense because Bradford couldn't sustain any drives and AP ran all over them. ARI only had 53 offensive snaps which was the 2nd least and they were dead last in time of possession. When doing my projections and looking back at McCoy lead offenses I don't remember pace or time of possession being an issue and consider last week to generally be an outlier.

As for Rosen. I liked what I saw from him during the preseason. At the least I don't see how he can play much worse than Bradford did last week. Why the #### do teams continue to give Bradford money? I don't get it. 

 

Im in Baltimore so not a Washington homer but I’ve followed them pretty closely between working in DC in the past and still consuming a lot of DC area media.

The Rediskins should be a playoff caliber team and have been for a few years on paper IMO.  Injuries like you said and also just a really weird football culture in and around that team hold them back sometimes.

To DC Cousins was a part of the RG3 era (RG3 was larger than life in much of that town) so they were smart to move on from him.  They need a year where they just get a fair return on the talent they have in DC, and Alex Smith is the perfect guy to make that happen.

Long term I’m not buying the Skins as a franchise though.  They are having trouble filling  their stadium for the first time in 50 years, the local media often refuses to say the word “Redskins” when covering them, and that controversy is only going to get bigger when they move back to the RFK stadium site in the district (not decided, but that’s the best move for the team and Snyder gets that I think).

So I hope they have a good run under Smith because Skins fans deserve it and there will be some dark ages coming up potentially.

Edit: I forgot the weirdest thing about DC football culture.  Probably 40-50% of the hardcore football fans in DC are Cowboys fans.  Hardcore Cowboys fans.

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On 9/13/2018 at 7:45 AM, Sir Psycho said:

Just sold Mixon for Gronk in my keep 4 league.

Already had Gurley and Barkley.

Jesus... what timing.

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On 9/12/2018 at 5:47 PM, SameSongNDance said:

In a league in which I'm deep at WR I'm moving Green and McCoy for David Johnson.

Wait, no don't..

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On 9/13/2018 at 6:29 AM, Heisenberg23 said:

i was high on Aaron Jones too BUT he is not as good in pass protection as Williams.

Rodgers is ailing. What do you think the Pack will do? Protect the best player in NFL!

Just food for thought...

he was in the fantasy RB top 11 last season in the 4 weeks he started, avg'd 88 yards/gm.15.5 carries/gm, 5.5 yards/carry on the season he plays the hapless Bills, Redskins, Chiefs, Niners, Detroit in coming weeks. he's going to be a STUD going forward..

Williams is a ship lost a sea..you wont have DE's with the ears pinned back laser-focused on chasing Rodgers when you have a back like Jones running the ball..it'll keep defenses 'honest'.

LOVE Jones going forward, mainly because of his track record from last season and because Williams just pooped on his own doorstep with his less than pedestrian showing last week.now he faces the Vikes - good luck! 

 

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13 minutes ago, Tanner9919 said:

he was in the fantasy RB top 11 last season in the 4 weeks he started, avg'd 88 yards/gm.15.5 carries/gm, 5.5 yards/carry on the season he plays the hapless Bills, Redskins, Chiefs, Niners, Detroit in coming weeks. he's going to be a STUD going forward..

Williams is a ship lost a sea..you wont have DE's with the ears pinned back laser-focused on chasing Rodgers when you have a back like Jones running the ball..it'll keep defenses 'honest'.

LOVE Jones going forward, mainly because of his track record from last season and because Williams just pooped on his own doorstep with his less than pedestrian showing last week.now he faces the Vikes - good luck! 

 

Can’t say I’m as excited about Jones as you are but since I have him in a couple leagues I like to hear it nonetheless, haha. 

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For whats its worth - Just traded 

P Rivers & Ingram - Already have Brady, Gronk, Melvin, Cook, Connor and now Fournette.  Really needed another WR to go with TY and Stills.  

for 

Fournette & Diggs

He badly needs a QB and I'm just adding depth.

Standard - Non PPR- 10 team NFL.com league

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