Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Cranjis

Dynasty & Redraft- Keke Coutee, WR, Houston

Recommended Posts

Just now, rockaction said:

Heck, no sweat. I can do that.  Watch them come out and run Miller thirty times next week. :)

Well, I'm staring Keke so that seems like a lock. :kicksrock:

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Flying Elvis said:

Well, I'm staring Keke so that seems like a lock. :kicksrock:

And I'm benching Miller, so perfect symmetry might be achieved.  

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, Phenomena said:

FYI he's gone for 40-60% in all my $300+ leagues. Be prepared to go big for him if you need/want him.

This makes sense given what I've seen and what this board says. Just adding a comment. He went for 60% of annual in a good free league of mine, on a bid that wasn't too reckless, actually. I bid $23 out of $46 left in another, so that would be 50%, though 23% of an annual budget, which is probably the standard usage for FAAB. 

Just for people whose waivers haven't run for whatever reason.  

Edited by rockaction

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I’m excited, hopefully SNF is a national debut party. He’s still under the radar in the press despite doing Anquan Bolden 2.0.

Edited by SaintsInDome2006

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

100 FAAB budget in the 12 team league I run:

$51 Winning Bid

- $35 (Outbid)

- $24 (Outbid)

-  $21 (Outbid)

- $12 (Outbid)

 

Edited by Flying Elvis

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Flying Elvis said:

100 FAAB budget in the 12 team league I run:

$51 Winning Bid

- $35 (Outbid)

- $24 (Outbid)

-  $21 (Outbid)

- $12 (Outbid)

 

Wow. Full ppr?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, ahartig said:

Wow. Full ppr?

No, but there are bonus points (generally just a higher scoring league) and it's 18 man rosters (traditional DST) and start 3 WR plus a R/W/T flex so it's slim pickins most of the year. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, MindBomb said:

Would you guys pick up Coutee and drop Keelan at this point (non-PPR)? Thinking volume will be there, more so than the Jags...

Cole is who I dropped for him.  Who knows.  I'm in a 10 team keep 3 ppr league and it's all a damn crap shoot.  I'm absolutely stacked at RB so at this point I'm trying to find at least doubles or triples at WR on the wire.  I've rotated thru Cole, Calloway, Godwin, M Williams already.  Sadly, at least for now I chose Williams over Boyd last week.  We'll see over the long term but I decided I trust Rivers more than Dalton.

As far as Coutee, I'm willing to give him a shot to see if they really want to give him the volume, vs Cole who seems closer to being JAG in a system where it is a crapshoot week to week.  Of course, this week they're up against KC so it's probably the wrong week to give up on him.  #### if I know man.  :lmao:

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, MindBomb said:

Would you guys pick up Coutee and drop Keelan at this point (non-PPR)? Thinking volume will be there, more so than the Jags...

I had Lee as a keeper and drafted Cole this year just to stash him hoping they clear out the depth over the offseason. There are just waaaay too many mouths to feed, which sucks because they are all talented enough to give you WR3 numbers with consistent targets. I would roll the dice on Coutee over Cole this year. 

Edited by Elevencents
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, RUSF18 said:

As long as we're talking about a number that won't prohibit you from making reasonable moves the rest of the year, gotta go with the philosophy of being better to overpay for the guy you want than to fall a bit short because you're worried about widely overbidding. 

Still holds true...even if you "overpay" by $51 of your $52 bid.

:lmao:

Edited by RUSF18

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, MindBomb said:

Would you guys pick up Coutee and drop Keelan at this point (non-PPR)? Thinking volume will be there, more so than the Jags...

Fournette being banged up and Bortles not being tremendously bad.... both are likely to end sooner, rather than later. Take the WR with the best QB talent. I doubt Bortles will continue to keep pace with Watson the way he is so far in attempts and yards. Hell, he's already ~15% behind Watson in yards despite having 2 more attempts. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Flying Elvis said:

100 FAAB budget in the 12 team league I run:

$51 Winning Bid

- $35 (Outbid)

- $24 (Outbid)

-  $21 (Outbid)

- $12 (Outbid)

 

good lord.  seems like a lot.

i can't imagine bidding that much for a guy who likely doesn't even crack the starting roster (yet).  I mean, I am relatively weak at WR (Thomas, Golladay, Brown), but still don't think I will play Keke this week.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, dmac37 said:

Went for 45% in PPR dynasty. Glad I added him for free a few weeks ago in my other dynasty.

Short bench leagues?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, zoonation said:

good lord.  seems like a lot.

i can't imagine bidding that much for a guy who likely doesn't even crack the starting roster (yet).  I mean, I am relatively weak at WR (Thomas, Golladay, Brown), but still don't think I will play Keke this week.

it's not about playing him this week. just because you pay that much doesnt mean you need to start him. I'm weak at wr too with Lockett starting, although he is awesome this year so far. if that wears off I have a backup plan. or if Coutee has consistency then I do start him. 

Edited by Dr. Dan
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

it's not about playing him this week. I'm weak at wr too with Lockett starting, although he is awesome this year so far. if that wears off I have a backup plan. or if Coutee has consistency then I do start him. 

I'm actually considering dropping Lockett for Keke after watching Waldman's gut check article on him.

He's tied to a high powered offense, they clearly trust him despite being out, HOU has no run game to speak of, and Will Fuller can never stay on the field. Meanwhile, SEA offense seems like it's in quicksand this year and Baldwin just came back as well.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, kyoun1e said:

I'm actually considering dropping Lockett for Keke after watching Waldman's gut check article on him.

He's tied to a high powered offense, they clearly trust him despite being out, HOU has no run game to speak of, and Will Fuller can never stay on the field. Meanwhile, SEA offense seems like it's in quicksand this year and Baldwin just came back as well.

Wow. That is super bold but Will Fuller is not always so reliable. Keke could slide into 10+ a week targets real easily. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, heckmanm said:

Grabbed him last week (FCFS) in one league :bowtie:

Other league is blind-bid, but it's a salary-cap league and you bid with your cap space (and the bid becomes his salary). So the higher I bid, the less likely I'll be able to keep him after this season.  OTOH, I'm missing Godwin, Robinson AND Hilton this week and he'd make a nice filler.  So I'm caught in the middle a bit.  There are other decent WW options to cover Hilton for a week or 2 (e.g., Chester Rogers, who'll presumably get a lot of his looks), so I'm leaning toward bidding an amount for Coutee where I'd be able to keep him for another year or 2.

Got him for just under 4% of the cap - 15/400. :thumbup:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, dmac37 said:

No not really. 12 team 23 player roster, superflex with 23 roster spots no PK.

Well then what the #### was he doing on waivers?  That’s just evidence that 12 people aren’t paying attention. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, DarkKnightsGuru said:

Keke was limited today in practice hamstring fyi hopefully precautionary

Welcome to the wonderful world of Texans receivers who are all “questionable” 24/7 every week.  

Edited by bumpman

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Elevencents said:

Got him in 2/3 with about a 33% bid. Lost in one to 50%. Hours 

Got him for around 50% of my waiver money in an FFPC league.  Next highest bid $438.  I highly doubt he is worth that but my team here sucks & this is basically a Hail Mary.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Somehow in my primary money league (10T : $350 + $5 trans : PPR) he was not bid on in FAAB, so I grabbed him yesterday “free” (no FAAB$, $5 cash) 

This league is mandatory 5WR (start 3). I had D Baldwin, M Evans, C Davis, Q Enunwa, and S Watkins.

Currently 4-0 and leading Points handily thanks to RB Corps of Kamara, Gordon, Thompson, and Michel (Start 2)... plus QBs Watson and Big Ben. 

Dropped Watkins for Coutee. Aggressive, perhaps. But my take aligns with Waldman’s “Gut Check”. We shall see :popcorn: 

Edited by [icon]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have Fuller and picked him up.  I'll be rolling him out if Fuller is out. 

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/all/team/season/week/keke-coutee/COU751041/2018/4/route

Comparing this to the routes for the all the Texans from the previous 3 weeks... no other receiver was running these routes (save 1 for Hopkins in game 1).  Lamar had similar type routes but nothing in game 4... also he been all that effective?  They're likely looking for more explosive capability. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
54 minutes ago, TripleThreat said:

I have Fuller and picked him up.  I'll be rolling him out if Fuller is out. 

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/all/team/season/week/keke-coutee/COU751041/2018/4/route

Comparing this to the routes for the all the Texans from the previous 3 weeks... no other receiver was running these routes (save 1 for Hopkins in game 1).  Lamar had similar type routes but nothing in game 4... also he been all that effective?  They're likely looking for more explosive capability. 

That link would be so awesome if it wasn't a link to Kareem Hunt's routes last week.   

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, heckmanm said:

Got him for just under 4% of the cap - 15/400. :thumbup:

...and the next bid was 11, so I didn't overpay too badly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, TripleThreat said:

agreed.  I worked my way to find it again... Houston team etc... ... same *bad* link same Coutee info.. maybe the link below.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/keke-coutee/COU751041

There you go! Nice info. Looks like all close to the line, though. Not too encouraging if you bid highly. Also nice to know that information exists. Thanks for that!  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Will Fuller (hamstring) expects to play Week 5 against the Cowboys.

 

Despite suffering a setback against the Colts, Fuller looked on track to play this week after getting in a limited practice Wednesday, and this is just another indication he will be ready to go Sunday night. Fuller playing is a concern for breakout star Keke Coutee's target share.

I don't think it kills his value because a) he occupies a part of the field the Texans don't have many guys occupy b) Texans run a lot of 3 WR sets anyway. Like it was stated in the article I linked last page, because how narrow the distribution is, three wide receivers can be supported in the O. c) Coutee's varied usage and route tree should give him opportunities (basically the first point).

 

EDIT: While he won't get double digit targets, this projects to be a game Texans will have to pass to win and he should see 5-7 you'd think.

Edited by The Frankman
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, The Frankman said:

I don't think it kills his value because a) he occupies a part of the field the Texans don't have many guys occupy b) Texans run a lot of 3 WR sets anyway. Like it was stated in the article I linked last page, because how narrow the distribution is, three wide receivers can be supported in the O. c) Coutee's varied usage and route tree should give him opportunities (basically the first point).

I agree, not starting him this week, waiting to see how it plays out.....but I think a star is on the rise.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, rockaction said:

There you go! Nice info. Looks like all close to the line, though. Not too encouraging if you bid highly. Also nice to know that information exists. Thanks for that!  

Kinda what I thought when I saw the chart.  I got him, but cheap, so I'm happy to see how this plays out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
58 minutes ago, rockaction said:

There you go! Nice info. Looks like all close to the line, though. Not too encouraging if you bid highly. Also nice to know that information exists. Thanks for that!  

now if you click on his route and open the page.... you'll find the link I provided above.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Allison is out due to his concussion, I'm going to be forced to start Coutee. What's the word on Fuller? Obviously, him being out would be extremely helpful to Coutee. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

If Allison is out due to his concussion, I'm going to be forced to start Coutee. What's the word on Fuller? Obviously, him being out would be extremely helpful to Coutee. 

Fuller is expected to play. Also see my last post.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/4/2018 at 9:32 AM, rockaction said:

There you go! Nice info. Looks like all close to the line, though. Not too encouraging if you bid highly. Also nice to know that information exists. Thanks for that!  

I found Coutee’s week 4 routes and usage extremely encouraging:

--All those short targets are gold in a PPR league

--They clearly designed plays and schemes specifically for him

--They used him like a RB at times which for a WR is bonus volume. This usage could prove especially valuable on a team where the RBs are injured and majorly under-performing

If you watch the tape, Coutee isn’t a Cole Beasley / Adam Humphries catch and fall down type of receiver, he’s explosive. If he continues to see volume I imagine big plays and deep targets will be a part of his game.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.