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46 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Is it unamerican for me to say that “God Bless the USA” is the most annoying song ever written? 

Eh, it has its moments.  Sometimes a good rah rah type thing is appropriate.

 

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I'm a human being first, and your nationality is the last thing on my mind if I help you up after you've fallen down.

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11 hours ago, Mystery Achiever said:


Just interested, have you completed your Bachelor's and, if so, what are doing with it?

Me too, considering we are about the same age. Im curious to know how i compare to another in my cohort.

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10 hours ago, Jackstraw said:

Whoa! That's a stunner! 

Trump has literally called me evil for being a democrat dozens of times. Among MANY MANY other choice words. 

I think that statement has been true and that is absolutely milktoast compared to the hundreds of vile comments our President has made. 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

“Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well,” she said.

Thanks for posting. Context is everything here. Citing only the "basket of deplorables" line is lazy and doesn't tell the whole story  Kinda like '"grab 'em by the #####" is lazy without the full context.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the #####. You can do anything.

See, in this case it makes it much worse, but the context is still important. Just wanted to point that out.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, kwille said:

Thanks for posting. Context is everything here. Citing only the "basket of deplorables" line is lazy and doesn't tell the whole story  Kinda like '"grab 'em by the #####" is lazy without the full context.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the #####. You can do anything.

See, in this case it makes it much worse, but the context is still important. Just wanted to point that out.

Is that George Bush 41 or George Bush 43?

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We are all humans first.  We are Americans by chance. 

Our nationality should have no bearing on how we treat one another as humans. 

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7 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

We are all humans first.  We are Americans by chance. 

Our nationality should have no bearing on how we treat one another as humans. 

I find it crazy that we live in a Jesus obsessed country, where his name is used to promote all manner of discrimination and xenophobia, when his example is the exact opposite.

Would we be able to exist free of sin, our empathy and compassion would extend beyond humanity.  Just because we are on the top of a food chain does not mean that we must shrug off the need to promote good and minimize harm in all that we do.  That goes for actual food chains and metaphorical ones.

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8 hours ago, Lutherman2112 said:

:construction: Beware: steaming pile of dung :construction:

"I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free"

:construction: All clear  :construction:

I’ll proudly stand up......wait for it......wait a little more....:deadhorse: (cymbal crash) 

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9 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

We are all humans first.  We are Americans by chance. 

Our nationality should have no bearing on how we treat one another as humans. 

Unless you’re a Tottenham fan. :X 

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10 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

We are all humans first.  We are Americans by chance. 

Our nationality should have no bearing on how we treat one another as humans. 

I do want my fellow citizens -- heck, citizens everywhere -- to live in the best place possible, with the best and most responsive government possible, with the best and most inclusive democratic systems possible, and for my fellow citizens to care about the freedoms, opportunities, care, and respect for everyone else, regardless of race, color or creed. But I have no idea how to define patriotism and whether I actually am one or not. 

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23 hours ago, Ruffrodys05 said:

It's a noble statement to make. Do you think the president should follow your mantra of "not disrespecting his fellow americans?"

@Stuart Ullman, do you think you could respond to this question? Ramblin Wreck responded, which I appreciated, but my question was for you.

Any thoughts on the numerous instances of disrespectful behaviour towards other americans displayed regularly by our president? Do you feel he should lead by example, seeing how he is purportedly the leader of the free world?

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16 hours ago, timschochet said:

Is it unamerican for me to say that “God Bless the USA” is the most annoying song ever written

I would think that title should go to something from the "Disco era" or perhaps to a Justin Bieber song, but un-American, no.

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We should go all Neil Diamond:

 

When it began, so tired of paying royals

Becoming unloyal, angry knaves

Concord in spring, to Yorktown through five long summers

We won the right to keep our slaves

 

Guns, bigass guns, shooting injuns & Nazis & snowflakes, shooting yooooooooou

 

Sweet Country Mine, woah-woah-woah

Somehow, freedom feels so good

'Til it unwinds, woah-woah-woah

Greed where honor one time stoo-oo-ood

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

I saw a car today with a Trump bumper sticker and the license plate DEPLORABLE (but with some of the vowels omitted). 

They take it as a badge of honor!

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On 10/10/2018 at 9:28 AM, Sabertooth said:

Well, to be fair Obama wasn't a WWF level self promoter that sought every opportunity to get in front of a camera  

Bullsh*t. 

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That's interesting that you equate Obama to DJT in terms of self promotion. Really interesting.

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On 10/10/2018 at 9:12 AM, Stuart Ullman said:

I did not. I also didn't spend much energy worrying about Barack Obama. I didn't like him as a President but I didn't lose sleep over it and I certainly didn't follow everything he did on a daily basis. I advise others to do the same regarding Trump. Your voice will be heard in 2020.

:goodposting:

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On 10/10/2018 at 8:58 AM, Stuart Ullman said:

I know this thread is probably a waste of time, but I just want to get this out there. We're all Americans first. What should unite us is our love for this country. Many of you don't like our current President and you have the right to that opinion. But don't turn your back on your fellow man. I see so many people on these boards, denigrating people for being on the other side. You call each other every name in the book, over what? Political affiliation? We can be so much better than that.

The fact of the matter is that the thing that makes this country so great in the first place, is that opposing ideas can exist. Spending every day of your life overanalyzing and criticizing everything Donald Trump does is no way to live. Again, you have the absolute right to choose how you spend your spare time. But for people to spend so much time discussing and arguing about a President they "hate" is staggering. Learn to let it go, for better or worse he's your President. He's imperfect like every other President will ever be.

The last thing you want to do, is to turn your back on your fellow American. We're all Americans first. As a Trump supporter, I don't hate, dislike, or think less of any of you if you don't support him. I respect your right as an American to feel how you want to feel. I wish that you all would share this sentiment because the precedent being set is a slippery slope. I often see people here fighting for the rights of the minorities, women, and the LGBT communities. All of which are noble causes. But don't you see the hypocrisy when you attack or paint all "Trump supporters" or all "white males" with a wide brush?

Believe me. We're all not that different. We all want happiness. We all want what's best for our loved ones. We all bleed the same blood and share existence in a miraculous time in the world. A man you don't respect is in office, but that doesn't mean you have to disrespect your fellow American. Remember, regardless of political affiliation, we're all Americans first.

This strikes me as a strawman.

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12 hours ago, jiffy said:

Bullsh*t. 

Remember when Obama won and then just still kept having rallies so he could soak in the adulation?  Me neither.  

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10 hours ago, Ruffrodys05 said:

That's interesting that you equate Obama to DJT in terms of self promotion. Really interesting.

I think you are spelling dishonest wrong.  

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On 10/10/2018 at 8:13 AM, Bruce Dickinson said:

Yes.  But the difference between me and the MAGA-hat wearers is I voted for Hillary in spite of that mistake.  With Trumpism, the cruelty is the point.

As time goes on Hillary is being proven right with that comment.

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She really is.  Trump winning has allowed terrible behavior to go mainstream.  Nice to see peoples’ true colors.  Like people defending Roy Moore or Kavanaugh and ridiculing victims of assault.  Nice window into their true character.  

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The nerve of these deplorables. They throw it in peoples faces like it's some kind of badge of honor to be small minded and racist.

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54 minutes ago, Ruffrodys05 said:

The nerve of these deplorables. They throw it in peoples faces like it's some kind of badge of honor to be small minded and racist.

And then clutch their pearls when you fight back.  So dishonest.  So toxic.  

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1 hour ago, Sabertooth said:

Remember when Obama won and then just still kept having rallies so he could soak in the adulation?  Me neither.  

You mean the #1 Narcissist in Chief?

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16 minutes ago, Sabertooth said:

And then clutch their pearls when you fight back.  So dishonest.  So toxic.  

And all these good folks who continue to defend this "president" and his administrations disgusting behaviours are complicit in their dishonesty too. I cannot chalk it up to simple ignorance, not for a large majority of them. They know exactly what they are supporting.

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8 minutes ago, jiffy said:
1 hour ago, Sabertooth said:

Remember when Obama won and then just still kept having rallies so he could soak in the adulation?  Me neither.  

You mean the #1 Narcissist in Chief?

No..what he meant was right in his post....see the bold for help.

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12 minutes ago, The Commish said:

No..what he meant was right in his post....see the bold for help.

Nope.  Obama was much much more of a narcissist than Trump and still is.

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12 minutes ago, Ruffrodys05 said:

 

And all these good folks who continue to defend this "president" and his administrations disgusting behaviours are complicit in their dishonesty too. I cannot chalk it up to simple ignorance, not for a large majority of them. They know exactly what they are supporting.

Yep.  What cracks me up too is they act like the fight is over.  They won!  No, silly you just won this round. 

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Just now, jiffy said:

Nope.  Obama was much much more of a narcissist than Trump and still is.

Ok.  What color is the sky on your planet?

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1 minute ago, jiffy said:

Nope.  Obama was much much more of a narcissist than Trump and still is.

I never mentioned Trump :shrug: 

'interesting' 

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Have to chuckle a little bit as I add the latest alias to my ignore list. Have to give them credit for persistence at least.

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29 minutes ago, jiffy said:

Nope.  Obama was much much more of a narcissist than Trump and still is.

lol

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34 minutes ago, jiffy said:

Nope.  Obama was much much more of a narcissist than Trump and still is.

the word you're looking for is uppity, amirite?

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3 minutes ago, jomar said:

the word you're looking for is uppity, amirite?

I would have chosen a different word.  But I don't really want to get banned.  

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On 10/10/2018 at 4:08 PM, Ditkaless Wonders said:

I approve of the use of the words "dullard:" and "puerile".

Strange seeing them in a post responding to Em

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37 minutes ago, Apple Jack said:

Deplorablin'

"Deplorable heads be deplorablin"

/couldaswornitwassarah

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49 minutes ago, Amused to Death said:

 

1 hour ago, jiffy said:

Nope.  Obama was much much more of a narcissist than Trump and still is.

Example?

 

:coffee:

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