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So what, this is fake news? It would appear that there was, in fact, a conspiracy. And both sides like blue and red? I don’t see how politics have anything to do with this, other than the president and his inner circle (kush) seem to be buddies with Muhammad bin Salman.
The standard action from the US towards the Saudis for quite some time has been to look the other way. I don't really blame any past administration because what option with them is a good one? They buy our arms, in some cases help us out, but also let's be honest, the monarchy is keeping a lid on another powder keg. You only need look at where all the 9/11 hijackers came from. That's a very rough neighborhood and if we took any meaningful action against the Saudis, we drive them either towards someone like Russia or China or at worst we destabilize a regime that would undoubtedly be replaced by something much much worse. I'm not defending them, just stating why we are in a box when it comes to Saudi Arabia. Any action we take is likely to boomerang on us.
This is so true. Seriously what the play? If we cancel the arms deal who get hurt? American companies and their workers, If we place sanctions who gets hurt? Not the Royal Family. it will be poor muslim families. What did we learn in Iraq? Are you guys ready for another 10/20 year occupation and insurgency?
Because the Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas never took a dime from Saudi Arabia to look the other way.
Obama lined his pockets with sweet Saudi $$$. Sold 10 units to Khalid bin Al-Saud in one day.
What I don't understand is why would Saudi Arabia do this in their own consulate? If their heaviest hitters are any good, wouldn't there be countless opportunities to do this elsewhere and not point such an obvious finger at themselves? Or aren't they that smart after all? Or are they that arrogant?
Because you can limit the investigation inside the consulate. You can control who's there and who comes in later.
Makes sense. But wouldn't it be easy enough to stage a car accident or knock the guy off in a hotel? Didn't they have their country's leading forensic expert in on the job. You would think he'd be good at covering up that sort of thing. Or am I giving them too much credit?
I'm sure they weren't planning on Turkish Intelligence having audio and/or video of the killing.
Our government gave poor black men Syphilis for a period of 50 years, when exactly in our history did we care about doing the right thing?
Welp, that took long. So much for that idea.
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/saudi-silence-on-khashoggi-must-end
From 2009-2016, duh.
There really isn't. I mean what is worse than murdering a journalist for writing words?
It’s taken over the right.
Yeah, I started this thread thinking it was something that we could all agree was pretty heinous, and have some serious discussions around tracking developments and what to do (as there is no clear cut answer), with the topic being a bit more immune than some of the other threads, as it was not clearly political to me.
15 of them, including a mobile autopsy expert. After they sent all the employees home for the day.
