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Can he though? If you're looking for a reason to not like him, watch the Oregon game. The DB has 2 steps on him almost all game long. Harry looks awful there. He had 1 good route on a double move and a couple other clutch catches but his routes were far from good. The more I watch of him, the less I like him.
Yes he can win deep because he has great hands and generally good positioning on the deep balls so even if the defender is right there with him, he still can't get the ball before Harry does.Zyphros said:
Absolutely credit to that DB, I'm not saying Harry can't do those things. I like him too and he has some things he does really well like snatch the ball out the air, track the ball, and position himself. I'm just saying that if an Oregon CB can do that to Harry then what kind of NFL CAN'T do that to him too.
It was a half a joke but also kind of real. What do you think? I know you are super wise in this area.Never underestimate the power of a coach to ruin a career.
He’s not as good as you guys are hyping him to be. I’m on record for being wrong before and never claimed to be a scout but yeah I was very unimpressed for a guy that was so hyped. He was shut down against high competition and excelled (padded numbers) against lower lever schools if this NOT so then post the links against high level competition in which he excelled. Give me 3 games:
4.4 would be incredible. I am hoping 4.57 or less. That is the Nuk, Michael Thomas, Crabtree range. Maybe 4.5 which would be AJ Green speed.
Anything is possible. Look at DJ Moore last year. He was the clear #1 WR based on the college numbers but nobody was ready for how tall he actually was and how explosive he tested.
Sub Sutton for Josh Jacobs and you might as well have been posting about yourself.
We all have our guys. Most important is understanding why people feel the way they do. As long as those people are respecting others opinions.
I think fantasy experts are more analytics based while draft experts are more film based. Not that Harry’s film is bad, most of the film people have him has as a late 1st-2nd rounder. However the metrics really favor Harry. His target share, yardage share, TD share and breakout age are in line with what we see out of the best NFL WRs. In simple terms, it’s rare to see a WR get that large of a share of their teams passing offense and to have contributed so significantly so young. He did it at a power 5 conference and he has prototypical NFL outside WR size. In a spreadsheet, he’s checking every box right now in a similar way Corey Davis did a couple years ago.
as a Corey Davis owner this is not a very good endorsementIlov80s said:
Because Corey Davis can help that the Titans were 31st in passing attempts in 2018 and their QB play was bad? To put it into perspective, 3 NFL teams had 200 or more pass attempts than the Titans.
We are talking about how a player will translate to the NFL. Many best college players flop in the NFL, in fact most of them flop
This is what I see on film too. I don’t get how everyone isn’t on board with him as the consensus WR1. He has it all. Maybe he just needs to show at the combine?
Davis has been disappointing but could any WR have done well last year in that offense? Others have done a good job pointing out the limitations of the Titans passing game.
Most players flop period. I would bet the best college players flop at a lower rate than the pretty good college players. If you look at the numbers for what the top 20 fantasy NFL WRs have done in college, Harry absolutely looks the part.
But it is a good lesson to learn. If Harry (or Metcalf or whomever one thinks is the alpha of the class), ends up with a bad QB or a coach hellbent on playing slow/running the ball than their value can be incinerated. Although we don't always know what those situations will be since the Titans looked like a good landing spot for Davis at the time.
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I'd actually be comfortable with AJ Brown to TEN but not Harry or Metcalf. Harry and Metcalf seem like duplicates of Corey Davis in some ways, as mentioned earlier. Brown projects as a possession wr, more of a slot guy.
I also think he probably has a lower ceiling than Harry or Metcalf. Those 2 guys have Julio Jones/Dez Bryant level upside. AJ Brown has Keenan Allen/Jarvin Landry upside.
