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so instead they opened a Honda dealership
so instead they opened a Honda dealership
Her and Biden are the only two that can beat Trump in 2020.
For now, I would still have Harris on that list but that's about it. I don't imagine Biden would ever be VP again but Biden at the top of the ticket with either of those 2 women as VP would be pretty formidable.Her and Biden are the only two that can beat Trump in 2020.
I don't think Biden can win the nomination. I think it will be Harris or Klobuchar - and maybe O'Rourke as a VP - but probably someone more senior than O'rourke, but less senior than Biden.For now, I would still have Harris on that list but that's about it. I don't imagine Biden would ever be VP again but Biden at the top of the ticket with either of those 2 women as VP would be pretty formidable.
I'm probably giving Biden too much credit but I think it's his to lose. Yes, there is good up-n-coming talent but it's too far left for general consumption, imo. The machine will get behind Biden like they did for Hillary.I don't think Biden can win the nomination. I think it will be Harris or Klobuchar - and maybe O'Rourke as a VP - but probably someone more senior than O'rourke, but less senior than Biden.
At this point in the 2016 cycle, Hillary was polling at over 60% support to get the Democratic nomination. Biden is at less than half that much right now.I'm probably giving Biden too much credit but I think it's his to lose. Yes, there is good up-n-coming talent but it's too far left for general consumption, imo. The machine will get behind Biden like they did for Hillary.
Does that account for the fact that this year's field is much broader and deeper than 2016? Hillary didn't have any real competition (sorry, Bernie).At this point in the 2016 cycle, Hillary was polling at over 60% support to get the Democratic nomination. Biden is at less than half that much right now.
I personally think you have the causation backwards. The reason the field was so small in 2016 was because nobody thought they could win the nomination from Hillary. By this time in the cycle she had tons of money and endorsements and party support. Biden has none of that stuff. Everyone is jumping in the race this time around because they think they have a chance.Does that account for the fact that this year's field is much broader and deeper than 2016? Hillary didn't have any real competition (sorry, Bernie).
a round worm could beat Trump in 2020Her and Biden are the only two that can beat Trump in 2020.
I think there’s a fine line. Obama had high expectations for his staff - he asked a lot of them and wouldn’t write them a thank you for doing their job - but that’s different from routinely berating your workers and having such a reputation that you drive away prospective employees. That said, I don’t think this is a huge deal. If the biggest piece of dirt we have on Klobuchar is “she’s a hardass,” she’ll probably end up being one of the cleanest candidates on the ballot.I am trying to figure out the angle here - being a driven individual with high expectations for staff is now a bad thing?
I still don't know enough about her - but she sounds like a tough boss to work for - and I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing.
I can be pretty sexist - but this notion that she is a difficult employer feels like its a non-issue for a male candidate, but a knock on a female candidate.but that’s different from routinely berating your workers and having such a reputation that you drive away prospective employees.
That's the attitude HRC and MSM had in 2016.a round worm could beat Trump in 2020
I´m ready for a clean living, plain talking, hard working Midwesterner as POTUS.caustic said:I think there’s a fine line. Obama had high expectations for his staff - he asked a lot of them and wouldn’t write them a thank you for doing their job - but that’s different from routinely berating your workers and having such a reputation that you drive away prospective employees. That said, I don’t think this is a huge deal. If the biggest piece of dirt we have on Klobuchar is “she’s a hardass,” she’ll probably end up being one of the cleanest candidates on the ballot.
I know three people that have worked in the WH, both Dems and Repubs. The life is brutal and hard on the family. 3 years is probably a max for most people.caustic said:I think there’s a fine line. Obama had high expectations for his staff - he asked a lot of them and wouldn’t write them a thank you for doing their job - but that’s different from routinely berating your workers and having such a reputation that you drive away prospective employees. That said, I don’t think this is a huge deal. If the biggest piece of dirt we have on Klobuchar is “she’s a hardass,” she’ll probably end up being one of the cleanest candidates on the ballot.
There is very little meaningful policy difference between most of them. She's no exception. Medicare for All, Education, Money out of government, Climate Change....she ticks all the boxes with the rest of them.Beto, Sherrod Brown, Biden lots of the favor Dems running are pretty down the middle, no?
Well, that and the fact that the party had already decided "it was her time".IvanKaramazov said:Does that account for the fact that this year's field is much broader and deeper than 2016? Hillary didn't have any real competition (sorry, Bernie).
Looks like the Biden money is being put to use already.The Huffpost is convinced she beats her staff. Another negative top of page story about her today.
Something odd is going on. This latest one is from stuff back in 2015. Didn't really look or anything but in my normal surfing which covers a few different political sites it doesn't even register but on Huffpost it's on blast in Drudge-like styleLooks like the Biden money is being put to use already.
You forgot that she has ovaries.I am trying to figure out the angle here - being a driven individual with high expectations for staff is now a bad thing?
I still don't know enough about her - but she sounds like a tough boss to work for - and I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing.
If the dems want to have a chance against Trump I think they should pair Biden with Klobuchar as his running mate or Klobuchar as the presidential candidate with a man as VP (preferably not someone that leans too far left).Klobuchar is still my pick, with Harris and Booker rounding out my top 3. I don't know much about him, but Klobuchar and Sherrod Brown would be a kick-### ticket in the Midwest. I still like Mitch Landrieu for the VP pick too.
Whatever they do, I can assure you that far left progressive candidates CANNOT win against Trump. I'm only suggesting the best possible scenario for the Democrats and that is either Biden/Klobuchar or Klobuchar/male running mate that doesn't lean too far left.I am sure the dems will take to heart all of the advice they are getting from the republicans.
There is not a single Democrat running who can’t beat Trump. It’s only a question of how bad the whupping is going to be.Whatever they do, I can assure you that far left progressive candidates CANNOT win against Trump. I'm only suggesting the best possible scenario for the Democrats and that is either Biden/Klobuchar or Klobuchar/male running mate that doesn't lean too far left.
LOL, I guess you guys haven't learned a damn thing from 2016.There is not a single Democrat running who can’t beat Trump. It’s only a question of how bad the whupping is going to be.
I’m not “you guys”.LOL, I guess you guys haven't learned a damn thing from 2016.
I’m not “you guys”.
Look it’s a pretty simple formula. Trump’s victories in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are one time shots. He will not strike lightning twice and so he will lose the election. -- Really? I think you underestimate his successes.
The only question is, how close will it be? If the candidate is perceived as too leftist, it may be closer than it would be if the candidate is perceived as a centrist. Except that I personally think that Kamala Harris will defy this formula due to her high level of charisma. Kamala Harris doesn't have a snoball's chance in hell to defeat Trump. Only in California and the Northeast are suckered into her.
Bad choice. She's a criminal.It always cracks me up that 100% of partisans you talk to, no matter how extreme their position, always think their candidate is going to win. And when they lose, it’s always because their guy “wasn’t conservative enough” or “wasn’t liberal enough.” It never fails.
Just once in my life I’d like to have a candidate who agrees with most of my positions and had a real shot at winning. That will never happen. Closest I ever got was Hillary Clinton, and we were only a match about 60% of the time- still that was higher than anyone else, ever. And of course she lost, lol.
Yeah, right. Investigations and allegations of wrong doing over 30 years but never once charged with any crime, even a misdemeanor in any jurisdiction by any prosecutor, local, state or federal.Bad choice. She's a criminal.
but should have. We all know that don't we?Yeah, right. Investigations and allegations of wrong doing over 30 years but never once charged with any crime
Nope. Hillary is portrayed as a master criminal, but, if so, there would have been at least one charge in one jurisdiction by one prosecutor either local, state or federal for at least one crime. But you got nothing, not even a misdemeanor. It wasn't like she got charged and beat the rap due to high priced attorneys, but she has never been charged with anything, anywhere and the Hillary haters can never explain or get around that.but should have. We all know that don't we?
...but isn't she a has been now? She should have been prosecuted.Nope. Hillary is portrayed as a master criminal, but, if so, there would have been at least one charge in one jurisdiction by one prosecutor either local, state or federal for at least one crime. But you got nothing, not even a misdemeanor. It wasn't like she got charged and beat the rap due to high priced attorneys, but she has never been charged with anything, anywhere and the Hillary haters can never explain or get around that.
this early? I doubt it. she’ll,be fineLooks like the Biden money is being put to use already.
I could be giving Biden too little credit, but the last two times he’s ran for President he’s been a complete disaster.I'm probably giving Biden too much credit but I think it's his to lose. Yes, there is good up-n-coming talent but it's too far left for general consumption, imo. The machine will get behind Biden like they did for Hillary.
Without checking the numbers, the better comparison might be Jeb Bush? (Not in terms of polling, but in terms of jamny’s statement about whom the machine will get behind in a large field.)IvanKaramazov said: Does that account for the fact that this year's field is much broader and deeper than 2016? Hillary didn't have any real competition (sorry, Bernie).At this point in the 2016 cycle, Hillary was polling at over 60% support to get the Democratic nomination. Biden is at less than half that much right now.
good point.Without checking the numbers, the better comparison might be Jeb Bush? (Not in terms of polling, but in terms of jamny’s statement about whom the machine will get behind in a large field.)
I don't really count 88 much as he was out before the primaries and in 08 he was up against Obama. I think he would have beaten Hillary in 2016.I could be giving Biden too little credit, but the last two times he’s ran for President he’s been a complete disaster.
Again...Klobuchar's positions are in line with everyone else running....they're either ALL " far left progressives" or NONE of them are. Sans BidenWhatever they do, I can assure you that far left progressive candidates CANNOT win against Trump. I'm only suggesting the best possible scenario for the Democrats and that is either Biden/Klobuchar or Klobuchar/male running mate that doesn't lean too far left.
I think voters are highly unlikely to care about this sort of thing. Maybe she's a bad boss, but that's an input, not an output. At the end of the day, she's going to get judged on her results (outputs). If she can demonstrate the ability to get things done, folks will overlook shaky internal management.Inside DC her being abusive is widely known. Not demanding. Abusive. Throwing stuff. Making them get her dry cleaning. Screaming at staff. Widely known. This will come out for sure if she becomes a serious candidate.
Warren can't beat him. She wont be the pick though so it doesn't really matter.There is not a single Democrat running who can’t beat Trump. It’s only a question of how bad the whupping is going to be.
If she is the pick - she will win.Warren can't beat him. She wont be the pick though so it doesn't really matter.
There will be additional leaks like her hiring docs at Harvard or other documents with her signature that will sink her.If she is the pick - she will win.