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That seems to be a fairly egregious omission, especially on the heels of last night's game.
TIL they exist outside the bayou.
Brees should have already won an MVP years ago. Not a Saints fan but Brees is one of the best ever. Gurley is certainly valuable but last night showed that the QB position is where the rubber meets the road in the big game. Mahomes is very good and will get better, but he has a lot to learn. Brees is a craftsman. He knows how to avoid the sack and he puts it on the numbers on most throws. IMO, he's the closest thing to a player/coach on any field in the NFL.
If Brees was really that good, they wouldn't bring in Hill to give him a breather. If you can't carry the load, then you don't deserve the MVP. It's called the MVP and not the MVPs award for a reason. Wintzsonick's numbers surpass Brees and they hold the head to head advantage at this time.
I disagree with this 100%. Breed and Hill are two totally different QBs. They do it to give the defense a different look. Not because Brees can't handle it.
Manning won it in 2008 and 2009. I thought Brees should have won it in 2009. I thought he deserved to win it in 2011 as well. Again, IMO. He had the numbers but it went to Rodgers. I thought Brees should have won the award in one of those seasons. You can argue numbers for him, Manning, and Rodgers. Brees did enough to win and he didn't. No big deal and it's just my opinion.
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When 2 players from the same team are in the conversation, neither of them deserve it.
IMO I already refuted 2011 in the How Drew Brees is being underestimated thread:
Regarding 2009:
Like I said, there are lots of "IMO" between us. I've seen the numbers and don't feel like Brees was screwed out of it for either year. I just thought he should have won one of them. He's a first ballot HOFer and I think he should have at least one MVP. IMO.
I didn't want to list two players from the same team and it feels like Gurley is having a greater season.NeverEnough said:
His team is 5-5. I think they have a shot at getting to 9 or 10 wins to get a wild card and then I'd put him in the convo, assuming he keeps up this play. He won't win it, but he'd at least be in the discussion.cloppbeast said:
I think voters want to give it to Brees if at all possible, exactly because of the sentiment expressed in this thread - "he should have won one by now". IMO any other candidate will have to surpass Brees by a healthy margin to win.
Possibly. It might very well be like the year Leo finally won the Oscar.
Brees should have won it in 2006. That is really the only year I'd have voted for him. He lead the NFL in yards that year, while taking the worst team in the NFC the year before, to the NFC Championship game. People forget this now, but without Brees specifically that year, there is a 50-50 chance, the Saints don't even exist as a team right now. There was a lot of off field things happening that winning cured.
Who else is even in the running? The drop off from Luck to option 2, is bigger than the drop off from option 2, to option 200.
Can't believe I spaced him, great call. I think they tend to lean toward offensive players, but Watt is very deserving, much more so than Beckham. Its been under the radar, but Watt has a strong case for DPOY. He's been right at the front of Houston's 7 game winning streak.
Disagree that the Monday nighter hurt Mahomes. That will be remembered as a bar burner where slinging the ball was a necessity. That being said, I'd still give the MVP nod to Brees.
Agreed. I actually think Tyreek Hill is the most valuable player on that Chiefs offense, but no way is a WR winning the MVP nowadays, so I will be totally fine if Mahomes win it considering the numbers how well he has played.
