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Not confirmed, but I saw it alleged that the senior Barr was a member of Germany's OSS in WW II. Probably old news, as I'm sure that the government is good (or was good) at vetting this stuff out.
Great story! You can feel the influence of some of the great sci-fi writers of our time! Definitely a good read!
Oh, good. So he’s basically the old guy in Apt Pupil.Not confirmed, but I saw it alleged that the senior Barr was a member of Germany's OSS in WW II. Probably old news, as I'm sure that the government is good (or was good) at vetting this stuff out.
This verified author of this writes for Wired, L.A. Times, and has a PhD.Somebody, please tell me this is fake news.
https://twitter.com/page88/status/1149778880628252676?s=20
So. More on the modern slave trade. Justice obstructor AG Bill Barr's dad, Donald Barr, the Dalton headmaster who unaccountably hired college dropout Coney Island hustler Jeffrey Epstein to teach underage girls, wrote a sex-slavery novel while working with Epstein.
I saw it via a retweet from Asha Rangappa , so I figured it was legit. Still, it's staggering.This verified author of this writes for Wired, L.A. Times, and has a PhD.
SD? Abwehr? Gestapo?Not confirmed, but I saw it alleged that the senior Barr was a member of Germany's OSS in WW II. Probably old news, as I'm sure that the government is good (or was good) at vetting this stuff out.
Oops, my bad. OSS = American, not German (Thanks, Evelyn Wood!)SD? Abwehr? Gestapo?Not confirmed, but I saw it alleged that the senior Barr was a member of Germany's OSS in WW II. Probably old news, as I'm sure that the government is good (or was good) at vetting this stuff out.
Which would be the OSS equivalent?
Barr's father was Jewish and was born in NYC. He converted to Catholicism after marrying an Irish girl.Mister CIA said:Not confirmed, but I saw it alleged that the senior Barr was a member of Germany's OSS in WW II. Probably old news, as I'm sure that the government is good (or was good) at vetting this stuff out.
It's absolutely piss-take crazy.This is nuts. You guys will chase anything down a rabbit hole.
OMG, the rabbits are part of this, too?!?!?This is nuts. You guys will chase anything down a rabbit hole.
I like my rabbit holes as much as the next guy.This is nuts. You guys will chase anything down a rabbit hole.
From my understanding Barr will recuse himself from any former charge or violation of the NPA. He appears to be staying on the case for any new charges.If Barr's dad really knew Epstein then Barr should recuse himself.
That doesn’t seem to make any sense to me. I wonder what the reasoning would be that he needs to recuse for prior stuff but not the new stuff.From my understanding Barr will recuse himself from any former charge or violation of the NPA. He appears to be staying on the case for any new charges.
Isn’t that a distinction without a difference? Part of the controversy of the NPA is that Epstein claims it prevents new charges.From my understanding Barr will recuse himself from any former charge or violation of the NPA. He appears to be staying on the case for any new charges.
I could totally be mistaken, but that was the reasoning I heard for the recuse/not recuse flip flop or whatever we call it. I'll look into it.Isn’t that a distinction without a difference? Part of the controversy of the NPA is that Epstein claims it prevents new charges.
One is not responsible for the deeds or misdeeds of their forefathers.If Barr's dad really knew Epstein then Barr should recuse himself.
No - I don't think Barr is responsible for his father's actions - but in legal parlance, recusal is done to "avoid the appearance of impropriety."One is not responsible for the deeds or misdeeds of their forefathers.
Watching CNN, the Mississippi governor candidate who doesn't want to be alone with a female reporter just said "perception is reality".One is not responsible for the deeds or misdeeds of their forefathers.
It sounds like something Barr would do, don’t get me wrong. On the face of things the idea is his law firm represented Epstein so the recusal would go as far as that literal set of events. It’s just a slippery way to stay involved in the case and influence it anyway which absolutely sounds like something Barr would do.I could totally be mistaken, but that was the reasoning I heard for the recuse/not recuse flip flop or whatever we call it. I'll look into it.
How profound. I guess that settles that then. No collusion!One is not responsible for the deeds or misdeeds of their forefathers.
Well, Both Eric and Don Jr are self made creepy guys, IMHO. Is it nature of nurture? DiscussHow profound. I guess that settles that then. No collusion!
What makes then creepy?Well, Both Eric and Don Jr are self made creepy guys, IMHO. Is it nature of nurture? Discuss
I didn't realize this had already been posted. This was Tim Kaine questioning Acosta at confirmation (Kaine was the only one to raise this issue). Basically in the first 2:30 Kaine asked Acosta why the NPA deal would not be made part of the settlement record. Acosta first responds by saying he can't answer because it's an issue in litigation - which makes no sense, that's a reason for not discussing criminal investigations but not civil (at least at a confirmation), and then Acosta says that was the sort of thing that comes up "in any negotiation" which is untrue. - Acosta has a very calm way of sounding calm and has a 'this is normal' tone but what he is saying is absolute bs.
It doesn’t make sense to me either.That doesn’t seem to make any sense to me. I wonder what the reasoning would be that he needs to recuse for prior stuff but not the new stuff.
@randall146 @Ditkaless Wonders @Henry Ford You guys are knowledgeable lawyers if I’m not mistaken (well, I think you’re lawyers anyway
Yes, yes it did.This thread got really weird in the last 24 hours with the whole “Barr’s dad, who in a past life was a Jewish spy for Hitler, collaborated with Epstein on a sci-fi porn novel.”
I like weird.
What are you talking about?Here's a hint: the reasoning given for anything this administration does doesn't contain any actual, you know, reasons. Legitimate ones at least.
How many times have they been caught lying red-handed? Dozens? Hundreds? Then it's shrugged off as no big deal (except by the judge in the census case). That people are still, at this late date, willing to put themselves on line by parroting the "reasoning" we are given for this or that, knowing full well the opposite is probably true, is full-on, in your face evidence of Trump over country. Loyalty at all costs.
The ends justify any means, even raping kids. No exceptions shall be permitted.
That’s what he’s asking. Genetics or environment?What makes then creepy?
I'm not defending. I couldn't care less if trump goes down in this.I didn't really need another example, but thanks for proving my point in real time.
Remember to protect at defend at all costs. Nothing may be considered beneath you.
Seriously? Quick search shows zero on this.Oh, and Alan Dershowitz resigned from Harvard.
Really? That’s a pretty big deal. Hasn’t he been associated with them his entire life?Oh, and Alan Dershowitz resigned from Harvard.
Probably wants to spend more time with his family. Maybe chase his dream of playing pro baseball.I'm not getting Dershowitz's resignation either.
Thanks, but I really just borrowed Julie K. Brown's language from the article she wrote back then. Thought about updating the thread title with "Bill Clinton took 26 trips on Epstein plane, 5 without secret service" as a joke, because I know some folks were wondering how many trips he took and how many of them were without secret service and if this information could be pinned at the top of the board, but thought better of just sticking with the old one.Thread title still holds out as prescient and correctly righteously angry. Good work, @ren hoek, I'm sure it wasn't appreciated at the time, but you were plugged in on this one.
Some of the other threads and ideas leave a bit to be desired, but this is good work.
Funny. I mean I'm not seeing it.Probably wants to spend more time with his family. Maybe chase his dream of playing pro baseball.
Let's not flagellate here. Iz cool.Sorry guys, I got fooled by a tweet about his 2013 retirement (which was their intention I'm sure). I'll do better.
Disregard.
Well, Don Jr. was cheating on his wife with Aubrey O’Day for starters.What makes then creepy?
Recusal is complicated. There could be a number of ways to justify this.That doesn’t seem to make any sense to me. I wonder what the reasoning would be that he needs to recuse for prior stuff but not the new stuff.
@randall146 @Ditkaless Wonders @Henry Ford You guys are knowledgeable lawyers if I’m not mistaken (well, I think you’re lawyers anyway
Oh good. I was worried you were going to say they were dating each other's wives.Well, Don Jr. was cheating on his wife with Aubrey O’Day for starters.
And Eric lies about how his charity spends its money.
But I’m sure this will be a worthwhile rabbit hole to send the thread down.
You’re complicatedRecusal is complicated. There could be a number of ways to justify this.