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Jeffrey Epstein: there is definitely nothing to see here folks, I am feeling very sleepy, I think I'll take a nice nap. (3 Viewers)
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Sand
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The Z Machine
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Other than confirmation that he likes to grab women.zoonation said:
Sand
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That doesn't make him a pervert. It makes him a philanderer, a playboy, and an oath breaker, but not a perv.
whoknew
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How about assaulting women and walking in on young pageant girls while they are changing?
Amused to Death
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I don't think this video shows anything other than Trump knew Epstein. And since this is now the he second time he's been photographed with him, it's hard to claim Trump hardly knew him.
Gianni Verscotchie
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Hawkeye21
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I'd classify that as being a perv. The comments he made about his daughter kind of confirm it too.
SaintsInDome2006
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Eh I'd refer back to the NYT story. MT posted a link from Slate further up. I think this is the same party.
Here's an odd thing about that party: no one else is there, except Epstein and one other guy. The NYT story describes a friend of Trump's advising him not to do this. At the time it was described as a "VIP" event with only one VIP, Epstein
This seems off base but I promise it's not - Bette Midler had this interesting interview or tweet recently where she described an event once where she was told that Trump would be holding a VIP event and golly there would be lots of celebs there. Ok so she went thought it would be fun, part of the job, whatever. She gets there and there's only her and one other person, some financier guy who was a huge Bette Midler fan. So she was dragged there as bait so Trump could connect with this guy, I guess financially or socially.
That video it's just Trump, that other random dude riding shotgun and the cheerleaders. The whole point of the party appeared to be to get Epstein to Maralago. That's how it looks to me.
And oh NBC - seriously thanks, NBC, for everything you've done for America, great work - just happened to be there.
Trump certainly seemed intent on hooking up while there with the cheerleaders (ok big deal, married but whatever) but also seemed to think at the time that was something Epstein would be interested in and that's why the girls were really there.
fatguyinalittlecoat
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Might have been a Bills cheerleader.Sand said:
Max Power
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Chris Cuomo implored viewers not to get caught up in the "intrigue" of who Epstein was friends with and instead focus on how it was handled.
"When we're talking about Epstein, you got to stick to what is common sense on these things, all right?" Cuomo said Wednesday night. "Don't get buried in legalese, don't follow the finger-pointing, and please don't get up on the intrigue of who was better friends with this guy. Who cares? Let's take a look at the facts of what we know about how it was handled. Okay?
Hawkeye21
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I agree. All that video shows is that he in fact knows Epstein better than he's told everyone. Not surprising.
I usually like Cuomo but that’s a stupid thing to say. Even if he’s talking just about the sweetheart deal he received, it absolutely matters who his friends are because that’s likely the reason why he got the sweetheart deal.
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[scooter]
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There is a difference between "who Epstein was friends with" and "who Epstein had private parties featuring teenage girls with".
The former group is not as relevant to Epstein scandal as the latter group. Anyone known to be part of the latter group is fair game for discussion.
Max Power
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So why is NBC there to cover it? As dumb as they may be, people generally dont invite the media to events with shady undertones
SaintsInDome2006
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I do not know, obviously. Was Trump trying to promote a show even back then? What? No idea.
But Trump may have had NBC there to impress Epstein. What the heck is Epstein doing there with Trump and whatever his lil buddy was there?
NCCommish
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And we still have the young lady who was 13 at the time of the incident that claimed Trump, while partying with Epstein, tied her to a bed and raped her and then told her he'd have his mafia friends kill her if she ever said anything. People called her a liar and she got death threats when she came out about it. Maybe she wasn't.
Max Power
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We’re talking about the guy who frequently would call into newspapers and tabloids under a fake name to spread gossip about him dating beautiful women. Him inviting the media to cover his party with dozens of beautiful women is absolutely in his wheelhouse even if a shady person like Epstein was there with him.
The other thing is that Epstein was a complete unknown to the public up until his original arrest. I doubt that these powerful people would have been associated with him if they thought there was any chance he would be caught.
NCCommish
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Yeah she said she felt the threats were credible and she was afraid. Maybe now with so many women bound to come forward she will feel brave enough to try again.
Max Power
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Sand
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There was a big discussion about that on MSNBC a few days ago. A gentleman on there (journalist) indicated that he and a couple others investigated that for months and noted that the source was a known scammer, among other things, and that they ultimately concluded the allegation to be false. Given that this was an otherwise liberal Trump hatefest it had some gravitas to it. I wish I caught his name, but I didn't. It was on Joy Reid's show.
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eurotrashman
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NCCommish
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We also have reports of Clinton at Epstein's private island. Wouldn't surprise me at all to find Bill was partaking. If so and they can prove it I hope they throw his ### in jail.
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randall146
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#somewithoutsecretservice
NCCommish
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TripItUp
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NCCommish
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One of the women who has come forward said she saw him there and asked Epstein about it. Epstein allegedly replied that "Clinton owed him".
Max Power
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It was Maxwell at Chelsea's wedding. Maxwell who is rumored to be named as co-conspirator with Epstein.
Maxwell who has been identified by a victim as Epstein's madam who procured the victims.
Sand
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If he did it, lock him up forever. But there is absolutely such a thing as false allegations and being called a child molester is about the worst thing there is. As much as people hate him he is innocent until proven otherwise. I expect there to be huge bombs hidden in Epstein's safe that will see the light of day; of the theorized ways that he made his fortune my bet is that he got his start with that Ponzi scheme and moved directly to a huge blackmail ring. Some "investors" in his hedge fund are going to fall. So you're right, there should be corroboration, either by inclusion or absence in that safe. If I were to put odds on it among the three big personalities mentioned as being connected to him I would put it at most suspect being Clinton, Dershowitz, then Trump.
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adonis
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Example number 2342 of "Now imagine this was happening with a Hillary Clinton presidency".
The Republicans would be holding hearings to investigate these ties, Fox News would be discussing these ties non-stop.
Max Power
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Epstein has also claimed to be a co-founder of the Clinton foundation, but that hardly gets mentioned.
I'm not trying to make this a Clinton vs trump thing, but the media is clearly investigating one more than the other. The one with less ties and where we have to assume things to make the story work.
Sure Trump is more newsworthy today than Clinton, but anyone who was the victim of either man deserves the same follow through.
I'm not trying to make this a Clinton vs trump thing, but the media is clearly investigating one more than the other. The one with less ties and where we have to assume things to make the story work.
Sure Trump is more newsworthy today than Clinton, but anyone who was the victim of either man deserves the same follow through.
NCCommish
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Sand
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Right now it's about 8:1 the other way (with the Clinton ties seemingly much more suspicious). I'd say overall a HRC presidency would see this be a much quieter item than being reported on now.
Max Power
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Sounds like unsealing the event that involves him will be bad for a couple high profile Americans as well
Sammy3469
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Max Power
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I acknowledged as much. I'd like to think the media is doing it's due diligence on every angle, but it just isnt the impression I'm personally getting.Perhaps because one is the President and the other was the President
[scooter]
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This isn't just because Trump is "more newsworthy"; it's also because Trump hired the guy who let Epstein off the hook.
adonis
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More concerned with what the investigators are doing, but the media will put out whatever its viewers will tune in for.
[scooter]
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Maybe you should go back in time to 2016 and read FoxNewsI acknowledged as much. I'd like to think the media is doing it's due diligence on every angle, but it just isnt the impression I'm personally getting.Perhaps because one is the President and the other was the President
Max Power
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So you think Acosta was the mastermind behind the whole Epstein deal? You dont think it came down from above or Epstein offered up something?
What did Acosta have to gain by letting Epstein off light?
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Max Power
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Thanks for the link to the story of Bill Clinton's accusers claiming they are ignored by the MSM.
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