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Jeffrey Epstein: there is definitely nothing to see here folks, I am feeling very sleepy, I think I'll take a nice nap.

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10 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

I wonder how often the cameras "malfunction"

That's like asking how often a '73 Pinto backfires.

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1 hour ago, beer 30 said:

I wonder how often the cameras "malfunction"

I would say it depends how old and or cheap they are. I have some experience with CCTV and they do have problems at times, but are more reliable than not. 

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2 hours ago, beer 30 said:

I wonder how often the cameras "malfunction"

As often as they need to.

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I still can't believe the suicide story has gained this much traction - I thought people mostly don't believe in conspiracy theories. 

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7 minutes ago, Gustavo Fring said:

I still can't believe the suicide story has gained this much traction - I thought people mostly don't believe in conspiracy theories. 

People definitely believe in conspiracy theories. 

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1 hour ago, Gustavo Fring said:

I still can't believe the suicide story has gained this much traction - I thought people mostly don't believe in conspiracy theories. 

If only there was some sort of medical professional who could evaluate such things.

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3 hours ago, Max Power said:

I would say it depends how old and or cheap they are. I have some experience with CCTV and they do have problems at times, but are more reliable than not. 

So what are the odds that two camera's would malfunction at the same time? I'm being serious because maybe there is old, outdated equipment in our prison systems and the stuff breaks all the time? I dunno. I'd guess other than Super Max prisons they probably aren't running the latest & greatest.

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I'm waiting to hear the timeline for the hallway camera. If it went out at exactly 4:16 am, I'd put a lot of weight into the story an unnamed source is putting out.

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This being a real suicide feels like more of a conspiracy than anything else at this point.  There seems to be far too many coincidences in this story.

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3 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

So what are the odds that two camera's would malfunction at the same time? I'm being serious because maybe there is old, outdated equipment in our prison systems and the stuff breaks all the time? I dunno. I'd guess other than Super Max prisons they probably aren't running the latest & greatest.

Very rare. If it was a known issue, there should at least be a work order log for requested maintenance. If they both went down the night of, it's very strange. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This being a real suicide feels like more of a conspiracy than anything else at this point.  There seems to be far too many coincidences in this story.

I think the oddest part is how Epstein ended up in an orange jumpsuit. Prisoners reported Epstein was wearing a pickle suit (anti suicide smock) the day of.  

They must have changed him before departing while doing CPR on a purple corpse. 

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21 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Very rare. If it was a known issue, there should at least be a work order log for requested maintenance. If they both went down the night of, it's very strange. 

Kinda what I figured. I'm trying hard not to go down the obvious road with this but the coincidences associated with this event are making it difficult to believe the current narrative.

I still believe it was a suicide but a very well orchestrated one.

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47 minutes ago, Max Power said:

What part of the story doesnt add up?

Most of it

 

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38 minutes ago, badmojo1006 said:

Most of it

 

It all fits under the serious irregularities umbrella

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19 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

If only there was some sort of medical professional who could evaluate such things.

If only, I guess, people are getting hung up on these medical evaluations. ;)

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2 hours ago, Gustavo Fring said:

If only, I guess, people are getting hung up on these medical evaluations. ;)

You should see what the hospital staff had to say...

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An anonymous man terrified he’s about to be named in court papers related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s alleged child sex trafficking ring is begging a judge not to release his name and identities of others accused — because it could tarnish their reputations, according to a surprise motion filed Tuesday.

Lawyers for the John Doe filed the letter Tuesday — just a day before Epstein’s self-proclaimed “sex slave” Virginia Roberts Giuffre is expected to join her lawyers in court as they continue efforts to unseal thousands of pages of documents related to her civil lawsuit against the dead pedophile’s alleged procuress.

“As a non-party to these proceedings, Doe lacks specific knowledge about the contents of the Sealed Materials,” his lawyers wrote to Manhattan federal court judge Loretta Preska. “But it is clear that these materials implicate the privacy and reputational interests of many persons other than the two primary parties to this action, Giuffre and Maxwell.”

The letter goes on to say a prior judge overseeing the case summarized the still-secret documents as containing a “range of allegations of sexual acts involving Plaintiff and non-parties to this litigation, some famous, some not; the identities of non-parties who either allegedly engaged in sexual acts with Plaintiff or who allegedly facilitated such acts.”

Doe’s lawyers do not say in the papers if he is famous, or what accusations he expects to face in the court papers. His attorneys did not immediately return a message.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/03/john-doe-begs-judge-not-to-name-names-in-epstein-gal-pal-case/

 

 

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/03/queen-finally-getting-a-clue-she-fears-prince-andrews-epstein-scandal-could-cause-lasting-damage-reports-say/
 

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Queen finally getting a clue? She fears Prince Andrew’s role in Epstein scandal could cause ‘lasting’ damage, reports say

‘Andrew’s association with (Epstein) is deeply damaging and he needs to deal with it,’ royal aide tells Sunday Times

There are “increasing signs of alarm at Buckingham Palace over what one royal source complained had become a public relations ‘fiasco,'” the Sunday Times added. Another source close to Elizabeth said she is “concerned and distressed by all this.”

The queen overall is worried that “the Epstein affair is bringing a more lasting whiff of scandal to the monarchy,” the Sunday Times added.

Giuffre told the media outside of a federal court in Manhattan last week that Andrew “knows exactly what he’s done, and I hope he comes clean about it.” More negative headlines could come if Andrew resists talking to the FBI in its ongoing investigation of Epstein’s alleged crimes — even though one report said Andrew was willing to be questioned.

Royal aides also fear that more embarrassing revelations could come in U.S. federal court come if any of Epstein’s employees or associates are charged in his sex trafficking operation, the Sunday Times said. Attorneys for Epstein’s victims have also said they want to talk to Andrew about what, if anything, he knows.

 

 

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More anonymous stuff from NY Post.

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9 minutes ago, msommer said:

More anonymous stuff from NY Post.

It’s been reported on many web sites.

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13 hours ago, Max Power said:

Lawyers for the John Doe filed the letter Tuesday — just a day before Epstein’s self-proclaimed “sex slave” Virginia Roberts Giuffre is expected to join her lawyers in court as they continue efforts to unseal thousands of pages of documents related to her civil lawsuit against the dead pedophile’s alleged procuress.

Apparently this is going on today and this guy is covering it.

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10 hours ago, Max Power said:

I think Levin was the lawyer with deep DC ties.

Lewin - and Yeah, double checked it, he does.
 

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Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York - 2007

Guantanamo Review Task Force, Washington, D.C - 2009

Special Counsel to FBI Director Robert Mueller - 2012

Special counsel to FBI Director James Comey - 2013

Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York - 2014

 

Could be nothing, but I'm putting my money on a DC insider. 

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2 hours ago, Punxsutawney Phil said:

This reminds me of the NXVIM pedophile sex slave cult.  I wouldn't be surprised if some connections between Epstein and NXVIM are eventually made.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/05/british-actress-distraught-over-being-linked-to-jeffrey-epsteins-inner-circle/

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Emmy Tayler worked as a PA to Ghislaine Maxwell, alleged to have procured young women for Epstein to molest, in the early 2000s.

- Daily Mirror, linked within.

This isn't an actress caught up in this thing, this is a person involved in this thing who happens to be an actress.

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How an Élite University Research Center Concealed Its Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein

New documents show that the M.I.T. Media Lab was aware of Epstein’s status as a convicted sex offender, and that Epstein directed contributions to the lab far exceeding the amounts M.I.T. has publicly admitted.

- The director of the lab in this report just resigned as a result

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They are going to tie this dirty money to a lot of things.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-connections-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations-ronan-farrow-2019-9

 

Microsoft founder, philanthropist, and former richest person in the world Bill Gates has been connected to the late financier Jeffrey Epstein before.

Now, an additional connection was reported by The New Yorker, which obtained emails from MIT Media Lab directors that say the convicted sex offender "directed" Gates to donate $2 million to the research lab in October 2014.

The latest link comes after reported meetings between the two wealthy men, including one in New York in 2013 that preceded a ride to Palm Beach in one of Epstein's private planes, along with Gates' former chief scientific adviser being namedas alternate executor to Epstein's will.

Epstein's run-ins with Gates demonstrate yet again how vast wealth opens doors, regardless of one's criminal background, as Epstein was convicted of two counts of soliciting underage girls for prostitution before his known ties to Gates occurred

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3 minutes ago, Sand said:

Do we know yet what his rise was due to?  There has been lots of speculation there.

Financial consulting and management.

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@Sand My intention wasnt to give you an eye roll answer to deter conversation. I did it to try to enlist some critical thinking with others here.

The media is quick to "debunk" things and some people only think news releases from CNN are facts.  

Most people see the Epstein situation as a WTF is really going on. Well the reported facts are the guy managed money, had issues with pedophilia, and there is nothing to make of his friends and business contacts. 

I was trying to point out that just because things haven't been released by the MSM, doesn't mean there isnt more to the story. 

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