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Jeffrey Epstein: there is definitely nothing to see here folks, I am feeling very sleepy, I think I'll take a nice nap.

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Strange how quiet this thread is for such a huge story. 

Rigth wing talking points still getting ginned up? 

All the stuff heard from the left is our people can go to hell if they are implicated. I agree wholeheartedly. 

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Honestly I like the thread to be quiet rather than everyone running with the latest theories. Let’s see how the facts develop 

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2 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

Strange how quiet this thread is for such a huge story. 

Rigth wing talking points still getting ginned up? 

All the stuff heard from the left is our people can go to hell if they are implicated. I agree wholeheartedly. 

I'm guessing there's a few DT folks just laying in wait for someone to try to connect some of the Epstein dots to Trump in a "creative" way. Sure doesn't seem like they give a rip about a billionaire donor pedo monster who used MAL as a recruiting ground. 

But honestly, until there is more info, I'd guess most people don't really know who Epstein is. 

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So are the Q idiots happy that the pedophile ring was found but unhappy that it involves some of their conservative friends?   I am guessing they will spend 100% talking about the Clinton connections (which there seems to be many) and completely ignore Trump

 

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3 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

No Individual 1...

Says others, known and unknown. So they got names. 

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2 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

ETA- I do like the forfeiture provisions...

Yep. Jets, Houses, Island chateau. See ya. 

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4 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

No Individual 1...

Yes this appears to be molestation and trafficking acts committed by Epstein only, with assistance from Employee-1 & Employee-2.   I don't think that any of the celebrities mentioned in this tread fit those labels.

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14 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

ETA- I do like the forfeiture provisions...

This was always too much to hope for. However I'll add there is still: the unsealed records case which should be pretty fulsome, and the possibility that Epstein will flip (- eta - There's also the data they seized and whatever that leads to.). Though really it's hard to imagine that (the current) DOJ will try to push an expose of politicians, celebrities, academics, money managers, and power brokers.

 

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julie k. brown‏Verified account @jkbjournalist 5m5 minutes ago

3/ US PROSECUTORS in NY describe a method of sex trafficking Epstein conducted in NY that mirrors what he did in Palm Beach;

- No double jeopardy I guess, SDNY not bound by SoFL NPA & different acts.

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On 7/7/2019 at 1:39 AM, Mr. Ham said:

-Details of Trump accuser released and Epstein took 5th

Some more background on this:

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George Conway‏ @gtconway3d

George Conway Retweeted VICE News

From a 2010 deposition of Jeffrey Epstein:

“Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?

“A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.”

Kellyanne's husband.

- Story here.

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20 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

and the possibility that Epstein will flip

I am not sure I see the upside to Epstein "flipping" here - if you assume these are more powerful men (women) than a NY billionaire, I don't think you want to be on their #### list.

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52 minutes ago, hammerva said:

So are the Q idiots happy that the pedophile ring was found but unhappy that it involves some of their conservative friends?   I am guessing they will spend 100% talking about the Clinton connections (which there seems to be many) and completely ignore Trump

 

They seem happy about it. 

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Wow.  I knew I was sort of out of touch over the long weekend, but I missed this development.  I guess I was more out of touch than I had imagined. 

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1 hour ago, Jackstraw said:

Strange how quiet this thread is for such a huge story. 

Rigth wing talking points still getting ginned up? 

All the stuff heard from the left is our people can go to hell if they are implicated. I agree wholeheartedly. 

What were you looking for? Some speculate and people shout it down. Some dont speculate and it's called out. 

Everyone seems more than happy to throw Bill Clinton under the bus when we dont have facts yet. 

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1 hour ago, hammerva said:

So are the Q idiots happy that the pedophile ring was found but unhappy that it involves some of their conservative friends?   I am guessing they will spend 100% talking about the Clinton connections (which there seems to be many) and completely ignore Trump

 

This is the article my deplorable connection posted to Facebook. Today.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known?fbclid=IwAR0G_Xon28QE9Lsq2i_hsKz30VkOlkZxn_EFVWQHq-P8JrzqiGj9yP7ppyE

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1 minute ago, formerfourdigit said:

Trump lawyer Alan Garten told FoxNews.com in a statement Trump and Epstein are not pals.

“There was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,” he said. “They were not friends and they did not socialize together.”

 

Hmmm.....

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33 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

I am not sure I see the upside to Epstein "flipping" here - if you assume these are more powerful men (women) than a NY billionaire, I don't think you want to be on their #### list.

And regally he shouldn’t get any deal, put him in the can for life.

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2 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Trump lawyer Alan Garten told FoxNews.com in a statement Trump and Epstein are not pals.

“There was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,” he said. “They were not friends and they did not socialize together.”

 

Hmmm.....

Normally I would take that as Trump being worried but when he holds the ‘get out of jail card’, he’s probably the last person Pedo Gatsby will flip on.

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19 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Trump lawyer Alan Garten told FoxNews.com in a statement Trump and Epstein are not pals.

“There was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,” he said. “They were not friends and they did not socialize together.”

 

Hmmm.....

If history is any guide a picture of them from the 80's at Claire's getting matching BFF earrings will surface by the end of the day.

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Seriously there is a freaking photo of Epstein and Trump together.  What is Tucker and Hannity going to tell everyone that it was photoshopped. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

So Acosta is done right?

 

I don't see why. 

Let me explain. Of course in a normal world, I see why. I just don't see why in a Trump world.

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Agents recovered nude photographs of girls when they executed a search warrant on Jeffrey Epstein's residence on Saturday night, according to U.S. Attorney Geoff Berman.

 

 

Tack on some child porn charges. This ####er is going down.

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6 minutes ago, hammerva said:

Seriously there is a freaking photo of Epstein and Trump together.  What is Tucker and Hannity going to tell everyone that it was photoshopped. 

 

The last time he claimed to not know someone  and a pic surfaced he used "my back was to the camera"  :mellow:

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1 minute ago, Bucky86 said:

Agents recovered nude photographs of girls when they executed a search warrant on Jeffrey Epstein's residence on Saturday night, according to U.S. Attorney Geoff Berman.

 

 

Tack on some child porn charges. This ####er is going down.

A powerful man with vast resources, maybe.  It does happen.  I will watch.

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Dershowitz confirmed to me last year that he received a massage "from an old old Russian" when he was vacationing at Epstein's Palm Beach home. Dershowitz claimed he never saw underage girls w Epstein, but said he was still advising the pedophile.

 

Gosh. I wonder why he felt the need to say "old old Russian?" 

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7 minutes ago, whoknew said:

 

I don't see why. 

Let me explain. Of course in a normal world, I see why. I just don't see why in a Trump world.

So from my understanding Acosta didnt even let the FBI finish investigating Epstein before he signed the NPA. 

If that's the case this dude is done.

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6 minutes ago, Max Power said:

So Acosta is done right?

Was he named? If not Trump’s MO is to wait he absolutely has to. As soon as he fires him, he’s gonna need to answer questions about vetting, if they knew, etc and he’s gonna avoid that as long as possible.

And if you go with the full on conspiracy that Acosta was appointed as a reward for what he did, him talking about who made those promises to him could be damning legally. I’d guess that Acosta is safe for now and Trump will be rage tweeting against the DOJ soon.

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Was he named? If not Trump’s MO is to wait he absolutely has to. As soon as he fires him, he’s gonna need to answer questions about vetting, if they knew, etc and he’s gonna avoid that as long as possible.

And if you go with the full on conspiracy that Acosta was appointed as a reward for what he did, him talking about who made those promises to him could be damning legally. I’d guess that Acosta is safe for now and Trump will be rage tweeting against the DOJ soon.

Everyone knew his role in Epstein getting the deal the first time. He wasnt Trump's first choice for the job either. 

Republicans dont have much ground to stand on to act outraged over Acosta's deal.

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1 minute ago, Biff84 said:

Was he named? If not Trump’s MO is to wait he absolutely has to. As soon as he fires him, he’s gonna need to answer questions about vetting, if they knew, etc and he’s gonna avoid that as long as possible.

And if you go with the full on conspiracy that Acosta was appointed as a reward for what he did, him talking about who made those promises to him could be damning legally. I’d guess that Acosta is safe for now and Trump will be rage tweeting against the DOJ soon.

He will just lie about being low IQ or everyone hated him.  He won't of course tell the truth.  That will be good enough for 35% of voters.

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14 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Agents recovered nude photographs of girls when they executed a search warrant on Jeffrey Epstein's residence on Saturday night, according to U.S. Attorney Geoff Berman.

 

 

Tack on some child porn charges. This ####er is going down.

Now imagine if any of those pictures are of the new accusers.

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33 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

And regally he shouldn’t get any deal, put him in the can for life.

It's good to be the King?

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16 minutes ago, Max Power said:
25 minutes ago, whoknew said:

I don't see why. 

Let me explain. Of course in a normal world, I see why. I just don't see why in a Trump world.

So from my understanding Acosta didnt even let the FBI finish investigating Epstein before he signed the NPA. 

If that's the case this dude is done.

That type of thing doesn't matter anymore.

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2 minutes ago, Biff84 said:

Now imagine if any of those pictures are of the new accusers.

If they are not I imagine they will make an effort to locate those young women and seek to add them as witnesses.

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4 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

If they are not I imagine they will make an effort to locate those young women and seek to add them as witnesses.

Which could realistically happen if they have/get the cooperation of one of the employees who helped schedule the girls.

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15 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

That type of thing doesn't matter anymore.

To be fair, this didnt matter in 2007 or since

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50 minutes ago, hammerva said:

Seriously there is a freaking photo of Epstein and Trump together.  What is Tucker and Hannity going to tell everyone that it was photoshopped. 

 

"But Bill...."

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2 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

ETA- I do like the forfeiture provisions...

Forfeiting the Herbert Strauss Mansion?  Yeah, that's a nice start.

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3 minutes ago, John Blutarsky said:

Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to as the expected right wing talking point.  Thanks.

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Well there is no way to point this as a only democrat or only republican issue.   Both parties are going to have blood on their hands.

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I thought everyone was going to be on the same side this time... :kicksrock:

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What will be the bulwark on spillage here?  If, as alleged, he has tapes maybe of the rich and powerful en flagrante delicto will that come out or will it help kill this yet again?  Should be fascinating. 

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