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I don't think he said anything about Mexico providing the funds beforehand. Don't move the goalposts. He's stated over and over that the restructuring of NAFTA into the USMCA will indirectly pay for the wall. Money is money.Good...once he has the funds from Mexico he can start building
Like I said, I'm sure their deal is filled with funding for all of their own pet projects, but they refuse to add one of Trump's, the one he's been advocating for from the start. It's Congress that needs to give a little here.
Wrong. That's something he came up with after Mexico's President told him to go F*** himself.
Well, now you're just making #### up
The Dems offered 25 billion for the wall. The republicans in Congress were on board.
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He first claimed that Mexico would pay for the wall in August 2015. At the time, he had no specific plan for getting Mexico to pay for it. By April 2016 he was promising to pay for the wall by confiscating wire transfers made between the U.S. and Mexico. Once he became president, he dropped that idea after it was explained to him that the scheme was illegal.Well, now you're just making #### up
The promise was made in 2016. I will give you $10 billion for every instance of him saying USMCA will indirectly pay for the wall during that time. #### I'll give you my liver if you need.
He said Mexico would pay for it. Period. He didn't say Mexico would reimburse us for it. Don't move the goalposts indeed
Who cares when he said what? Mexico's President said no, so we structured USMCA to pay for it indirectly. The end result is the same.
Who cares? He made a 25-30 billion dollar campaign lie. I'll tell you who cares. The American taxpayers who would rather see their money used for something more productive. More than 60% of the public is against the wall. The Wannabe-King is finding out the hard way that he doesn't have the power he thought he did.
Can you show me in the agreement where the funds are being set aside to pay for the wall? Without that you're being dishonest
Hmmph. What world are you living in? In this world, reality is mutable. Facts are only a matter of perspective.
It’s not everybody else moving goalposts here. As usual, it’s yiu.
Who is the “their”? Because it (the CR) passed the senate unanimously.
1. you obviously care because you've been telling lies about it all day here.
I kept my plan and my doctor as did millions of others.
Did he specifically say they would pay upfront? Paying for the wall indirectly also counts. I never thought Mexico would just write us a check upfront. Your own linked article states that he said they would pay indirectly either through reduced foreign aid and/or through other revenue from Mexico (which I assume is now clarified to be partially through USMCA)
But you specifically stated this was about keeping his word...now we are not to use his actual words?
His words were that Mexico will pay for the wall. I asked the question for someone to point to me where he said it would all come in up front. Unless you can prove otherwise, you guys incorrectly assumed that he meant they would pay for it upfront. His own words in an article linked here confirm that this is not what he meant. They will pay for it indirectly, over time.
There is more than one way to keep your doctor.
Agreed....just show us where the indirect monies from the new nafta are shown to be allocated and we're good. Or, you can keep digging doing your best to ignore the reality that he's lied to you and he isn't following through on his promise
And Mexico is not paying for this wall. Not even with your lies that the new deal was structured to do so.
Unless you can prove otherwise, then you incorrectly assumed that Obama was talking about keeping your doctor without switching plans.
He also mentioned reduced foreign aid as a way of paying for it. We give Mexico $300M a year in foreign aid mainly to help with narcotics, but that obviously isn't money well spent based on the continuing drug and crime problem. Reduce that aid down significantly and the $5B is paid most likely before construction is completed.Agreed....just show us where the indirect monies from the new nafta are shown to be allocated and we're good. Or, you can keep digging doing your best to ignore the reality that he's lied to you and he isn't following through on his promise
Deal still needs to be approved by Congress. If there is a line saying x amount goes towards a wall let's see if that gets passed.Agreed....just show us where the indirect monies from the new nafta are shown to be allocated and we're good. Or, you can keep digging doing your best to ignore the reality that he's lied to you and he isn't following through on his promise
Eliminating that 300 million would take over 16 years to get to that $5 billion.
It will probably take that long to get it built. Not familiar with government-run construction projects are we?
$300M/$5B is 16.6 years. You're willing to wait 16 2/3 years to get 1/4th of the wall while allowing massive increases in crime and drug trafficking?He also mentioned reduced foreign aid as a way of paying for it. We give Mexico $300M a year in foreign aid mainly to help with narcotics, but that obviously isn't money well spent based on the continuing drug and crime problem. Reduce that aid down significantly and the $5B is paid most likely before construction is completed.Agreed....just show us where the indirect monies from the new nafta are shown to be allocated and we're good. Or, you can keep digging doing your best to ignore the reality that he's lied to you and he isn't following through on his promise
Trump has repeatedly boasted the wall would be built quickly due to his expertise. Why is it that you believe his other lies but not that one?
And it will cost way more than $5 billion too. And that is if you cut off all aid. Which would cause major issues.
Congrats on finally discovering something that I linked 2 pages ago.
Pretty sure another poster already mentioned that and how it was illegal and how Trump abandoned that.
If you're vague enough, it's not really lying when you fail to do what you implied you might somehow manage to eventually maybe sorta in some way possibly find a way to do.
“Real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as Obamacare." (with... something. Maybe?)
Well according to Trump and his kool-aid drinkers the cable company would be paying for that crap so you shouldn’t care.
Ok. Great. Once he has the money he can start. He still lied straight to America's face. Keep digging. Let me know when you get tired
