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Man, I love Tua, but I don't think he's worth completely tanking for. But then, except Andrew luck, I don't think any QB has been worth intentionally tanking for.
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Nick Foles Landing Spot/Contract Size (Jags, reportedly 4/88 50 guaranteed) (4 Viewers)
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I feel like they are just going to let this last year of Eli's contract run out, because they are basically ####### and don't want to get crucified by the NY Media again like when he was benched in 2017. Eli has a no trade clause and is due a $5M roster bonus in March, they are probably too afraid to outright cut him, he's not gonna take a paycut... they're probably stuck with him for one more season.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
And they announced they’ll be keeping him
Howie accounces they won’t be tagging Foles either.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Looking like he is going to be Jacksonville bound.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
just saw this also. adding link to story.
https://www.philly.com/eagles/nick-foles-jaguars-free-agency-eagles-20190303.html
and from another link:
https://www.philly.com/eagles/carson-wentz-contract-extension-tyrod-taylor-andrew-berry-brandon-graham-jordan-hicks-20190302.html
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
If the numbers are true he exceeded just about every expectation. Rumors are 4-88 that could reach 102 million with 50 guaranteed. That’s a damn good job by him.
@fantasycurse42 please update my loss in the standings accordingly
I missed this by a lot.
@fantasycurse42 please update my loss in the standings accordingly
I missed this by a lot.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Good for Nick, that is awesome!If the numbers are true he exceeded just about every expectation. Rumors are 4-88 that could reach 102 million with 50 guaranteed. That’s a damn good job by him.
@fantasycurse42 please update my loss in the standings accordingly
I missed this by a lot.
Insein
Footballguy
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I was right there on the money but he got one more year than I thought he would. Good for him. He'll always be a hero to us Eagles fans.
rockaction
Footballguy
Plaudits.Dinsy Ejotuz said:
No, really. He's making at least 22-25 per, with $50 M guaranteed.
Good haul.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Geez. I figured Foles would get paid but I underestimated at 3 years for $60M.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
CalBear
Footballguy
I think people just don't understand how much a QB with a pulse is worth. They also don't get that the salary cap goes up every year, so every deal is bigger than the last one (more or less). He's in the Kirk Cousins tier, he was going to get a little better than Kirk Cousins money.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
You sure about that?Right there on money
I might be the GM for the Jaguars
nailed it 
Deamon
Footballguy
Don't be that guy. I still don't know where you made up the narrative that Eagles fans would actually be HAPPIER if he made less money. Not everyone is obsessed with being 'right' like you. Jeez man.
Right there on money
I might be the GM for the Jaguars
Deamon
Footballguy
Bit more than I thought he'd get, but super happy for the guy. Especially considering the Jags had lots of leverage as they were the only team going after him. It's astonishing how much QB's are getting paid... every new deal is going to be a record breaker.
He lands pretty much right in the middle of the Keenum and the Cousins deals.
CK: 18/yr- 25 Guaranteed
NF: 22/yr- 50 Guaranteed
KC: 28/yr- 84 Guaranteed
Looks pretty close to the Alex Smith and Joe Flacco contracts.
What a story this guy has had.
He lands pretty much right in the middle of the Keenum and the Cousins deals.
CK: 18/yr- 25 Guaranteed
NF: 22/yr- 50 Guaranteed
KC: 28/yr- 84 Guaranteed
Looks pretty close to the Alex Smith and Joe Flacco contracts.
What a story this guy has had.
Deamon
Footballguy
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I hope this works out for Nick. I hope the Jags have a nice turnaround. Not sold on the culture of the coaching there. I’ve always had a soft spot for that team though. They are my “AFC” south team LOL. Would love for Foles to succeed there!
As an aside to the value and astronomical pay of QBs, just watch 5 minutes of that AAF league. That’s about all I can stand due to how bad the pass throwers are. There are literally like 18-25 phenomenal to somewhat capable QBs on the planet it seems at any one time. And Foles is one of them.
As an aside to the value and astronomical pay of QBs, just watch 5 minutes of that AAF league. That’s about all I can stand due to how bad the pass throwers are. There are literally like 18-25 phenomenal to somewhat capable QBs on the planet it seems at any one time. And Foles is one of them.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
The Eagles just let their franchise QB walk. That was a mistake.
You're quoting posts from December. Find my posts from January. I quoted one above. His playoff win against the Bears and almost-win against the Saints made me reevaluate and say he'd make a little over 20 million per year. I nailed it on the money, but thought he'd only get a three year deal. I was off a year on the length. Sorry to ruin your day. lol
Right there on money
I might be the GM for the Jaguars
We had two. Can't pay them both. We chose the younger one with more potential. Must suck seeing that as a franchise who hasn't had one since the early 90's. :(
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He didn’t get Cousins money.
I’m very curious who the Jags thought they were bidding against. From everything I read it was just them who was interested in Foles. If true that’s a lot of money if you’re the only suitor.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Meh, despite sucking for a very long time and coming into the league much later than you they still have 4 more super bowls than you and they are and will always be more relevant than pennsylvania’s second team.
But you know all that.
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Oh wow. Clever retort. Who would have ever thought you'd bring up Super Bowl rings from 25 years ago? The fact remains, you've sucked for a quarter century. And we just got rid of a QB who's better than the one you're stuck with. At least you have the old VHS tapes to watch.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
If you think he’s your franchise QB, then that price is pretty cheap. The question is whether he is a franchise QB. Personally I think JAX needs to expend some mid-round draft capital on a rookie to sit behind him just in case.
rzrback77
Footballguy
Really appreciate the humility Foles has always exhibited. Great play for the Eagles two years in a row and excited for him on the contract. He gets an opportunity to lead on a team with a great defense and a chance for success.
These contracts are always so difficult to evaluate because of the annual cap increases. So many comments the past few days about their teams (or rival teams) wasting money.
some of these early signings may be evaluated down the road as overpays. But it’s a team game and in this case, the Jaguars badly needed a QB, and I hope it works out for them and for Nick Foles. It is now a vastly improved division for sure.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I agree 100%. I just never heard another team associated with him for a while and because of that expected a lesser deal. The deal they gave him seems like they thought there was completion and they went all in. I’ve seen a few Jags writers begin to question it last night and I was curious myself.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
If that’s the case, then the Jags sportswriters don’t understand the market (no surprise there). That number puts him at QB11 right now in terms of average salary, but by the time his contract expires he’ll probably get passed by at least another 10 guys.
Insein
Footballguy
Who was the competition for Cousins? He wasn't coming back to Washington. Some say the Jets but who knows how real that is.
This is just the going rate for QBs. Any agent worth their salt isn't going to let a client who's being pursued as a starter get paid backup money. Jacksonville may have been competing against themselves but they were also competing against complete rebuild or a retool back to relevance.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Bold statement about a very average QB and another made of balsa wood.
We'll see I guess
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Cousins, from what I recall, had a LOT of competition. Pretty much every team that drafted a QB was rumored to be interested in him.
He got a lot more than back up money. Like a whole lot more.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I think anyone questioning who they were bidding against is fair and it’s seperate than market value. You’re not paying market value if there’s no market. Assuming they were the only ones in of course.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
You brought the 90s Cowboys up, Copernicus.Oh wow. Clever retort. Who would have ever thought you'd bring up Super Bowl rings from 25 years ago? The fact remains, you've sucked for a quarter century. And we just got rid of a QB who's better than the one you're stuck with. At least you have the old VHS tapes to watch.
Your jokes are as old as our Superbowls. Literally say the same thing over and over.
Dak might not have the supposed upside of your boy Wentz but has a playoff win and is actually available during the winter months. He’s also not a weird hillbilly and his teammates actually like him.
Looking forward to talking more Dallas Cowboys with you in other threads that aren’t discussing the Dallas Cowboys but let’s stick to the topic, The Eagles letting go of the best quarterback theyve ever had getting out of that filthy city and landing himself a fat contract.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
How's he going to fit and play in Jags' system?
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
There’s always a market for starting QBs. If you want an extended deal, you have to pay for it. JAX in no way, shape, or form overpaid. It may end up falling through if Foles doesn’t perform, but the number was good for a 4 year contract for a vet starter.
Sick burn. You should be in the Cowboys thread figuring out why your entire defense is comprised of drug addicts who can't stay on the field. Your obsession with the Eagles is laughable.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah, the fact he was able to get as bit of a big contract as he did is surprising under the circumstances. I can't see where else Foles could have realistically gone and started.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Thing is Jax was pretty desperate to a certain extent. They think they can compete now I’m guessing so if they didn’t get Foles they had no other option. And they had no way of knowing that Washington or maybe another team wouldn’t come in with an offer.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
That guy?
JuniorNB made the Case Keenum comparison about 2 dozen times, no exaggeration. He's a blowhard, and he's being called on it. Had he not come into this thread highlighting how he was right on the money, I wouldn't have said anything. Pretty easy to be right on the money when you argue both sides.
Notice I didn't quote a single post from anyone else? You also said Case Keenum money in the Eagles thread, I didn't quote that. Bigboy admitted he misjudged the value of the guy which was respectable and that was that.
NB on the other hand is the worst kind of blowhard... Dollars to donuts, he'd be quoting his Case Keenum posts had his contract been 2/40. Guy was banned from another board similar to this one for being an annoying blowhard, I call it like I see it.
So please, get off your high horse.
I was right on the money and admitted I guessed one year less on the contract length. I said he'll get paid over 20 million and less than 25 million. You can argue that all you want, but the proof lies upthread multiple times. Sorry if that ruined your big 'gotcha' moment. I hope the rest of your day is better.
