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Maybe. Or he leads the ravens run first offense in receiving with 750 yds and 4 tds for the next 3-4 years. That’s if he holds up physically. It’s probably overstated but what’s going to happen when his 170 lb frame come over the middle and hits a 240 lb linebacker? Think of yourself at 170 lbs- now think of whatever you weigh now hitting 170 lb you.
That's totally different argument than Baltimore being the worst possible landing spot, which is what I was responding to. Not liking him as a prospect due to his size is a different discussion.
exactly.
Well this part isn’t shocking
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I think if he had AB's route running ability and that speed he would have been the first overall pick in the draft.
Hes the best route runner in this class by a long shot. That, to me, means more than how much he weighs. He could be 185lbs and not be able to create himself open.kittenmittens said:
Isn't Fuller problems in the knee, and same with Richardson? I'm just thinking how one can get strong knees?
How players get tackled has a lot to do with this imo. Marion barber style vs jerry rice basically- the guys that catch the ball and angle themselves to deflect or fall to avoid a big hit vs Hit back and get as much as you can.
It will heal eventually, right? Worst case he'll have a red shirt rookie season. Maybe they'll have a passer by year 2.
I like Jackson overall and feel like it’s being overstated how bad a situation brown is in. Then I looked at the game logs and see he didn’t complete more than 14 passes in a game and cleared 200 yds once (204).
Trubisky
Yeah. I don’t disagree and like most I have Hollywood much lower than you would think the first wr drafted would be ranked in a vacuum. I was just adding some context that not all hope for Lamar throwing the ball is lost when a couple other guys recently did similar or worse as rookies at older ages and then took big jumps forward when their teams added weapons/better coaching. The Ravens didn’t add anything close to what those teams added for the second years of Goff/Trubisky though. Curious how Trubisky’s wrs fared his first year? He’s probably more similar to Lamar in how he was handled by the Bears coaching staff.
Trubisky's supporting cast was much worse, Kendall Wright, Dontrell Inman, Josh Bellamy and Markus Wheaton. They combined for 84.2 PPR points in his first 7 starts. His last 7 starts to end his rookie season they had 149.8.
That might matter more for a guy like AJ Brown or Harry. But Marquise isn't necessarily limited this way, he's got the ability to create points out of thin air.
This is where I land with this. I am not convinced Jackson is the liability that many are making him out to be, and even if he is (1) They can scheme around that for the short term (2) They will fix that in the longer term. Brown can outlast a bad QB before he starts losing value. For me this is the best thing that could happen, because I wasn't in a position to draft him anywhere if he lands in GB or NYJ.
not a guarantee
You're touting the benefits of a redshirt year for injury, but it's pretty easy to show you a recent instance where that didn't work, on the same team at the same position.
We've since learned Perriman isnt very good. Is his not-very-goodness related to his injury?
Lis Franc injuries rose when they switched to turf across the league. It was part of a big study by the NFL on turf toes. (Same study, everyone spoke of turf toe)
