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1 minute ago, Lehigh98 said:

Eagles shouldn't have any shot at winning this game ...

That doesn't really happen in the NFL playoffs. No team should feel like they're insanely outclassed underdogs, Vegas lines be damned.

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2 minutes ago, Lehigh98 said:

Are you sure?

I looked it up on Wikipedia.  I'm pretty sure they're 5-0 at home in New Orleans in the playoffs.

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15 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

Eagles finished 9-7 and were four plays away from being 13-3.  No one cares how close they were to not being there.

Dude, you have no idea what others care about, ok?  So cool that.

The Eagles are losing vs Saints.

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1 minute ago, ZenoRazon said:

Dude, you have no idea what others care about, ok?  So cool that.

The Eagles are losing vs Saints.

Whoa.  Bold prediction. You're going with the team that's a 9.5 point favorite? Way to stick your neck out. :lol:

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1 minute ago, unckeyherb said:

Every time someone trots out the 5-0 at home stat, everyone take a shot.

Who's 5-0 at home?  I haven't heard that....Eagles are 4-0 under Pederson though (all as underdogs).

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3 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

Whoa.  Bold prediction. You're going with the team that's a 9.5 point favorite? Way to stick your neck out. :lol:

I never stick my neck out amigo, that why I rarely lose.

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Just now, Bigboy10182000 said:

He’s undefeated at home though, per Wikipedia. 

When he is with Boo Boo

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1 hour ago, JetMaxx said:

125-0

Can't find it anywhere, but what is the record of Saints when both Brees and Payton park in the PLAYER ONLY parking lot, then walk out of the same tunnel, and then, you know, stand on the same sideline? 

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13 hours ago, need2know said:

Yogi Bear is probably the worst cartoon character ever created.

Countdown to a Scrappy Doo alias...

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13 hours ago, Yogibear said:

I'm watching SportsCenter right now, and they just said New Orleans is a 9 1/2 point favorite next week.

I was talking about this to my brother-in-law in the casino business just a bit ago and he brought up an interesting point.  The Gulf Coast (MS/LA) and Atlantic City (close to Philly) are the next two biggest gaming/betting markets outside of Vegas, so that line (which just shifted to NO -8.5) was probably set that high to be reflective of where they think those bettors will bite. AC betting on Philly, MS/LA betting on NO.  A way to get the most money bet and it be evenly spread...

 

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listening to the Eagles post-game a lot of players were saying how they really wanted this New Orleans game. Really wanted to redeem the game from earlier in the season and make sure they can return the favor for running the points up. I am sure team's say this stuff all the time, but I do wonder if Payton's tendency to get a little arrogant may come back to get him

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4 minutes ago, modogg said:

Really wanted to redeem the game from earlier in the season and make sure they can return the favor for running the points up. I am sure team's say this stuff all the time, but I do wonder if Payton's tendency to get a little arrogant may come back to get him

The NFL record for a 4th-quarter comeback is 30 points in the era before the 2-point conversion. Going into that last TD drive, the Saints were up 31 late in the 3rd quarter. The Saints selling out to score one more TD early in the 4th to go up 38 ... that was fair play in professional football. Not a run-up and not arrogance, and would say the same if the Saints were on the other end of it.

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4 minutes ago, Doug B said:

The NFL record for a 4th-quarter comeback is 30 points in the era before the 2-point conversion. Going into that last TD drive, the Saints were up 31 late in the 3rd quarter. The Saints selling out to score one more TD early in the 4th to go up 38 ... that was fair play in professional football. Not a run-up and not arrogance, and would say the same if the Saints were on the other end of it.

yeah could be. Unfortunately the Eagles are not seeing it that way. If that provides them extra motivation, who knows.

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4 minutes ago, modogg said:

yeah could be. Unfortunately the Eagles are not seeing it that way. If that provides them extra motivation, who knows.

No doubt it ... that is what football teams do. Find an angle somewhere.

Heck, even Nick Saban consistently sells to his Alabama players that "it's them against the world", "people don't respect us", and stuff like that. Pederson -- and Sean Payton -- are finding their angles, too.

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1 hour ago, modogg said:

i'm just hoping for a lot of Tasion Hill at QB nd in the game

Yes. I hope Payton was just using the season as a test run for the Taysom Hill experience that he's going to unleash. I want a Taysom Hill option every other play. Eagles won't be able to stop it and the new era of the NFL will be ushered in.

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Opinions on Taysom Hill are a funny thing. Most NFL observers outside of Saints fandom seem to really remember the failures and ignore the successes. Saints fans are just the opposite -- focused on the times Taysom Hill plays have succeeded and willing to shrug off the misses.

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If the Eagles can run the ball vs the Saints I like their odds of winning, if not Brees will pick them apart.  Something tells me to not go aginist St Nick so Eagles win 31 to 28 on last second field goal.

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Remember when Tampa beat these two teams to start the season?!  That was awesome.

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spread down to +8.0 now.  Money line for the birds at +280.  Pretty sure I'm gonna take my winnings from yesterday and let it ride on an outright.  

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11 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

How many key starters did the Saints rest last week?

I don't have a hard number handy, but you can scroll down to Snap Counts on this page. Some guys didn't play at all, and many others just played a half or so. Let's see:

- Brees, Kamara, and Ted Ginn were inactive.

- Three starting OL sat. Max Unger stayed in at center, and starting LG Andrus Peat slid over to LT. A street FA played all game at RT.

- On defense, DE Cam Jordan, DT Sheldon Rankins, CB Marshon Lattimore played about a half. Several other guys on defense had their snaps curtailed.

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From Bleeding Green Nation:

Eagles open as big UNDERDOGS to the Saints in New Orleans

Hungry dogs run faster.

They STILL haven’t learned their lesson.

The Philadelphia Eagles have now won four straight playoff games as underdogs. And yet SB Nation’s NFL odds page shows the reigning Super Bowl champions have opened as nine-point underdogs to the Saints for their divisional round matchup in New Orleans.

When will people learn to stop doubting the Eagles?

The Saints are a tough opponent, make no mistake. New Orleans ranks first in point differential and fourth in DVOA. They obviously kicked the crap out of the Eagles in Week 11 when they beat Philly by a final score of 48 to 7.

But just because they won that game doesn’t guarantee they’ll win the rematch.

The Saints didn’t play awesome in December. They only averaged 20.25 points per game in the final four games they actually tried to win (Week 13 through Week 16). Drew Brees, who turns 40 years old next week, had a mere 88.2 passer rating in the final month of the regular season. The signs of mortality are there.

The Eagles, meanwhile, finished the regular season strong and entered the playoffs hot. Philadelphia has won six of their last seven and the sole loss came in overtime.

There’s every reason to believe the Eagles can march into New Orleans and win. Doug Pederson is a great head coach. Nick Foles is magic. The offensive and defensive lines are capable of controlling the game up front. The secondary has stabilized.

I’m sure this Eagles team hasn’t forgotten about the Saints running up the score in Week 11 and later referring to Philly as “fraudulents.” The underdog Eagles are going to be licking their chops at the opportunity to make the Saints eat those words.

The reality is the Eagles are a great team playing with nothing to lose. They’re dangerous as hell.

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29 minutes ago, Doug B said:

- Three starting OL sat. Max Unger stayed in at center, and starting LG Andrus Peat slid over to LT. A street FA played all game at RT.

Peat left pretty early. It was several no names - Newton? Lucas? - who aren’t even with the team 2 weeks prior.

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There’s definitely a weak point - Armstead & Bushrid have been oft injured, and Will Clapp (UDFA LSU) has been playing swing guard... badly.

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44 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I don't have a hard number handy, but you can scroll down to Snap Counts on this page. Some guys didn't play at all, and many others just played a half or so. Let's see:

- Brees, Kamara, and Ted Ginn were inactive.

- Three starting OL sat. Max Unger stayed in at center, and starting LG Andrus Peat slid over to LT. A street FA played all game at RT.

- On defense, DE Cam Jordan, DT Sheldon Rankins, CB Marshon Lattimore played about a half. Several other guys on defense had their snaps curtailed.

I’m curious how these guys respond ealry in this game. At the time we play it will be a day short of 3 weeks since they’ve played a game. That seems like a long time. 

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2 hours ago, modogg said:

i'm just hoping for a lot of Tasion Hill at QB nd in the game

i hope peyton gets cute with hill in the redzone and he ends up turning it over 

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56 minutes ago, Amused to Death said:

The Philadelphia Eagles have now won four straight playoff games as underdogs.

Hm, that is impressive. When was the last time a team covered the spread against them in the playoffs?

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10 minutes ago, need2know said:

i hope peyton gets cute with hill in the redzone and he ends up turning it over 

Hill’s been good there, he’s had a TO when throwing deep though.

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14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Hill’s been good there, he’s had a TO when throwing deep though.

its not that i dislike hill or the saints. 

i just hate the gimmicky stuff in the redzone peyton has been doing with hill. 

i know it can be effective, but if i have a hall of fame qb in the redzone hes staying in the game to get me the td.

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3 minutes ago, need2know said:

its not that i dislike hill or the saints. 

i just hate the gimmicky stuff in the redzone peyton has been doing with hill. 

i know it can be effective, but if i have a hall of fame qb in the redzone hes staying in the game to get me the td.

Oh yeah a lot of people down here feel the same way.

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10 minutes ago, need2know said:

its not that i dislike hill or the saints. 

i just hate the gimmicky stuff in the redzone peyton has been doing with hill. 

i know it can be effective, but if i have a hall of fame qb in the redzone hes staying in the game to get me the td.

Need to add a "AMEN" emoji for posts like this

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33 minutes ago, need2know said:

i hope peyton gets cute with hill in the redzone and he ends up turning it over 

Or better yet use the punt returner for the jet sweep so he can fumble it out of the end zone. 

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Yogi Bear: Hey Boo Boo, did you know the Saints are 5-0 at home in the playoffs  with Peyton and Brees?

Boo Boo: But gee Yogi, did you know Big Dick Nick and Big Balls Doug are undefeated in the postseason? Especially when they are underdogs?

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37 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Hm, that is impressive. When was the last time a team covered the spread against them in the playoffs?

Well, they were dogs at Chicago and at home last year against the Falcons and Vikings.  And in the Super Bowl against the Pats.  Their last playoff appearance where they were favored  was against the Saints at home (Eagles -3, 2013).  Interestingly. they lost 24-26 in a game where Foles, for all intents and purposes, outplayed Brees.  

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Saints offense over the full season:

  • Saints #6 in yards per game with 379.2 yards per game
  • Saints #3 in scoring at 31.5 points per game

Saints offense since blowing out Philadelphia (the final six games)

  •  Saints only 21.1 points per game

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4 hours ago, Lehigh98 said:

Are you sure?

I think @Yogibear got his stats wrong.  By my research, they're actually 0-5 at home in the playoffs since they started in New Orleans.

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7 minutes ago, Deamon said:

I think @Yogibear got his stats wrong.  By my research, they're actually 0-5 at home in the playoffs since they started in New Orleans.

thats what im seeing on the internet

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21 minutes ago, Stephen Holloway said:

Saints offense over the full season:

  • Saints #6 in yards per game with 379.2 yards per game
  • Saints #3 in scoring at 31.5 points per game

Saints offense since blowing out Philadelphia (the final six games)

  •  Saints only 21.1 points per game

I'd be more interested in that stat if it included only their home games.  They're a totally different team under the dome, so the points they score on the road is irrelevant for the upcoming game. They will be on their fast track.

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39 minutes ago, Stephen Holloway said:

Saints offense over the full season:

  • Saints #6 in yards per game with 379.2 yards per game
  • Saints #3 in scoring at 31.5 points per game

Saints offense since blowing out Philadelphia (the final six games)

  •  Saints only 21.1 points per game

The first 2 stats sound pretty good. The third stat includes the final game using maybe 15 scripted plays and players who wouldn't even appear in a preseason game, so excluding that and looking only at home games:

  • W 31-17 vs Atl.
  • W 31-28 vs Pit.
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2 hours ago, Gopher State said:

If the Eagles can run the ball vs the Saints I like their odds of winning, if not Brees will pick them apart.  Something tells me to not go aginist St Nick so Eagles win 31 to 28 on last second field goal.

The Eagles making the FG or the Saints missing after BDN moves it into the post with his mind?

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After witnessing the Giants run in '07 with Capt mouth breather at the helm, I never count anyone out......you get a lil momentum in the playoffs and lookout!

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This really is an even matchup.

Both lost to the Cowboys, both beat the Redskins and Giants, both beat the Vikes, both beat the Rams, both beat the falcs, both lost to the Bucs.

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19 hours ago, Yogibear said:

What I meant to say is they're 5-0 AT HOME in the playoffs ever since they started in New Orleans.  Soon to be 6-0 after next Sunday.

Nick Foles is undefeated in every game he has won

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17 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This really is an even matchup.

Both lost to the Cowboys, both beat the Redskins and Giants, both beat the Vikes, both beat the Rams, both beat the falcs, both lost to the Bucs.

We lost to the Vikes.

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