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In this thread I rank my favorite Beatles songs: 204-1.

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I rank Revolution 1 much worse since the single, faster version is so much better.   I don't get this song at all.  But, I typically rank the White album lower than most Beatles fans too.   I have different taste.   

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7 hours ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:

Wanted to revise my post-Beatles Beatles top-25 ranking (now with tier breaks!), adding Oh Yoko! and doing some upon-further-review reshuffling:


#1 My Sweet Lord (Harrison)
#2 Instant Karma (Lennon)
#3 What is Life (Harrison)
#4 Imagine (Lennon)

#5 Silly Love Songs (McCartney)
#6 Band on the Run (McCartney)
#7 It Don't Come Easy (Starr [Harrison])
#8 With a Little Luck (McCartney)
#9 Jet (McCartney)
#10 Live and Let Die (McCartney)
#11 Listen to What the Man Says (McCartney)
#12 Oh Yoko! (Lennon)
#13 Stand by Me (Lennon [King])

#14 Photograph (Starr)
#15 Give Me Love (Harrison)
#16 Maybe I'm Amazed (McCartney)
#17 Give Peace a Chance (Lennon)
#18 Another Day (McCartney)
#19 Happy X-mas (Lennon)
#20 Whatever Gets You Through the Night (Lennon)

#21 Let Em In (McCartney)
#22 Starting Over (Lennon)
#23 Watching the Wheels (Lennon)
#24 Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (McCartney)
#25 Woman (Lennon)

So that's Harrison with #1 in the Beatles top-10 (While My Guitar) and #1 and #3 here.  Weird I don't like more of his other stuff, but even after giving it another chance a lot of it leaves me meh.

Puzzled-squared that these don't crack your top 25.

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22 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I haven't; have you?  Wish I had.  Actually looked at tickets for his latest non-All-Star-Band tour because I thought I might take my mom, who loves Ringo's voice (suck it, @Alex P Keaton), but didn't pull the trigger.  

oh yeah, a couple of times - because Todd toured with the All-Star Band several times.  Each of the main guys do a couple of their own songs and some of them do a Beatles tune or two.  It was excellent.  

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123.  I Don't Want to Spoil the Party (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Another country-tinged song, and originally written for country-music-fan Ringo to sing lead.  It's unclear why/when it changed to John, but it was a good move instead to have John's double-tracked vocals on the verses with Paul's harmonies on the bridge.  I don't even understand how Ringo could have sung this one, but I'm glad he was there to keep it all tight on the drums.  I'm a fan of George's twangy, Chet-Atkins-style guitar work on this one, even though he's a bit messy with it.  I like to compare and contrast this with some of John's other, more aggressive "you're leaving me" songs (such as "Run for Your Life"), and in this case I appreciate the vulnerability without threats of violence.

Mr. krista:  "They were just trying to write a county song. We're back to really morose.  They can’t really write country, so it sounds like he’s hiding a real misery in this pastiche.  But I think dude was sad."

Suggested cover:  The only cover of a Beatles song to reach #1 on the country charts, Rosanne Cash (don't tell anyone, but I like this version better than the original)

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20 minutes ago, DocHolliday said:

I rank Revolution 1 much worse since the single, faster version is so much better.   I don't get this song at all.  But, I typically rank the White album lower than most Beatles fans too.   I have different taste.   

I probably rank most of the album lower than most others would, too.  A few people pointed out that it needs to be listened to and evaluated as a whole, and I think there's some merit to that argument, though it wouldn't make me any more likely to listen to Wild Honey Pie.

15 minutes ago, Mister CIA said:

Love "Isn't It a Pity" and "Helen Wheels."  Hate "Junior's Farm."

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2 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I probably rank most of the album lower than most others would, too.  A few people pointed out that it needs to be listened to and evaluated as a whole, and I think there's some merit to that argument, though it wouldn't make me any more likely to listen to Wild Honey Pie.

Love "Isn't It a Pity" and "Helen Wheels."  Hate "Junior's Farm."

My love for Jimmy McCullough is unbounded.

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20 minutes ago, Mister CIA said:

Junior's Farm and It's a Pity were in the last group of ~10 or so that I decided not to include.  The others... different strokes and or I don't know the tune.

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11 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I probably rank most of the album lower than most others would, too.  A few people pointed out that it needs to be listened to and evaluated as a whole, and I think there's some merit to that argument, though it wouldn't make me any more likely to listen to Wild Honey Pie.

I have listened to the whole album but struggle every time to make it through.  And, I shouldn't have to force myself to listen to it.  That says it all really.  

What typically happens after listening to some of the White album is I skip to my favorite tunes or don't feel like my Beatles thirst is quenched and I go to Abbey Road, Revolver, Help, or another album that I love.   

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2 minutes ago, Binky The Doormat said:

no que - hombre.  this is a Beatles thread, not a slippin' jimmy thread :)

Take some medicine

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3 minutes ago, Binky The Doormat said:

tragic story for the guy.  

So young, and so Jeff Beck-ish.  Wish we knew what could have been.

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25 minutes ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:
46 minutes ago, Mister CIA said:

Junior's Farm and It's a Pity were in the last group of ~10 or so that I decided not to include.  The others... different strokes and or I don't know the tune.

Remember is a sweet ride.

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Speaking of the White Album, and I know I will get some "OMG how could you" on these:

122.  Sexy Sadie (White Album, 1968)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

I just don't connect as well with this song as many people seem to.  Musically I enjoy it, but the contempt with which John is addressing the Maharishi is too acerbic for me to enjoy this more than I do.  

Let me back up in case anyone doesn't know the story.  This song was written in the waning hours of John's India visit (Paul and Ringo had already left, so only John, George, and various others remained).  A rumor started, most likely propagated by "Magic Alex" Alexis Mardas, who was concerned that his influence over John was ceding to the Maharishi's, that the Maharishi had made a pass at one of the female guests, possibly Mia Farrow or possibly not.  It's all very, "My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 Flavors last night," but I guess it was a tipping point for John, who left and wrote this caustic piece, which was originally called "Maharishi" until George convinced John to change it.

I like sarcasm, but this song is full of so much venom, even in the manner of John's vocal.  And the lyrics...well, look up some of the original lyrics that John sang to this.  If I posted them this thread and my username would be no more - there's a "c" word and a "t" word or two and some "f" words.  Still, the song is so musically clever that I'm fascinated by it.  The progressions and chord changes are stunning, and I'm enamored of the "wah wah wah"s (for lack of better term) and the cranky piano.

Mr. krista:  "[Reads a bunch of terrible alternative titles for the song.]  I 100% would have liked that song better.  I like a “#### you” song that’s sung really sweetly, with those high harmonies and pretty piano.  Sounds like it’d be a spacey type band like Radiohead.  Or Verve or Spiritualized."

Suggested cover, kinda:  Funny that Mr. krista should mention Radiohead, since the chorus of their "Karma Police" sounds suspiciously like the opening bars of this song.  Check out a comparison here.  Can't fault Radiohead too much, though, since John himself cribbed some of the lyrics - or closely followed them - from another Smokey Robinson song, "I've Been Good to You."

121.  Glass Onion (White Album, 1968)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

As we creep toward the top half, I'm highlighting some songs that, while I think they're great, have one glaring issue for me.  In "Sexy Sadie," the issue is that it's too acerbic even for me.  In this one, it is those godawful, inexcusable, makes-me-want-to-turn-the-song-off-except-it's-otherwise-so-good...call-backs to their own damn songs.  It's so lame I can't ####### stand it.  You're out of ideas and you've decided that abusing your audience with these condescending references is the way to go.  It feels like it's sung with disgust rather than being tongue-in-cheek.  Therefore, despite this being an otherwise great rock song with a fab bass line, wonderful cello arrangement, and clearly a FBG favorite, I just can't rank it higher, and in fact I have at times had it ranked much, much lower.  

On the other hand, here's an interesting bit from John about this song explaining one of those callbacks itself:  "That's me, just doing a throwaway song. I threw the line in 'the walrus was Paul' just to confuse everyone a bit more.  ... At that time I was still in my love could with Yoko.  I thought, 'Well, I'll just say something nice to Paul, that it's all right and you did a good job over these few years, holding us together.' ... The line was put in partly because I was feeling guilty because I was with Yoko and I was leaving Paul.  It's a very perverse way of saying to Paul, 'Here, have this crumb, this illusion, this stroke - because I'm leaving.'"

More Badfinger trivia:  "Glass Onion" was the name that John had intended to give to The Iveys, who became Badfinger instead.

Mr. krista:  "Bass playing sounds too boring.  Strings are the best part.  They had such a hard time just writing a song.  I think after Revolver, it seemed like each one had to be an event.  The stakes were so high.  That’s how you get #### like that.  It’s so pretentious."

Suggested cover, also kinda:  With sincere apologies to @zamboni, I dig the Danger Mouse "Encore" remake.

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10 minutes ago, Binky The Doormat said:

yes, I would have ranked these two significantly higher.  Like very.  

How's your top 30 coming?

Speaking of which, where's @Getzlaf15?  Think he was going to do something here.

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Just now, krista4 said:

How's your top 30 coming?

Speaking of which, where's @Getzlaf15?  Think he was going to do something here.

how's it going?

like the sound of large, seizing 19th-century factory gears - that's how it's going, don't know how you did it.  

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1 hour ago, Mister CIA said:

Magneto and Titanium Man is a guilty pleasure.

Venus and Mars is a really well written song imo.

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editing to add that it's Venus and Mars/Rock Show
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5 minutes ago, krista4 said:

How's your top 30 coming?

Speaking of which, where's @Getzlaf15?  Think he was going to do something here.

Knee is back to 80%, so I've been back to work after 7 weeks of no weight at all on my left leg.

So, I ran this idea by Krista this morning and she told me to give it a shot....


So here goes:
1) Anyone that wants to can give me their TOP 25 Rankings via PM.  Give it to me now, give it to me before Krista picks her #25.   I'm not going to look at anyone's list and start compiling them until Krista gets to #30.

2) I will put them all on a google spreadsheet and do a composite ranking of everyone's picks.
Your #25 gets 1 point.  #24 gets 2 points, #1 gets 25 points.

3) After Krista reveals her #25, I will then post everyone's #25 in a following post and post updated standings after every pick until we get to #1. Krista's picks will be part of the composite total also.

My guess is we get 40-50 songs on the list.  It would be awesome if we could get at least ten to do this.  I think it will be awesome to see everyone's lists as a countdown also. 
If there is a huge pushback against doing 25 songs, we could do less, but let's shoot for 25 please. 

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We haven't hit on some of Paul's more recent stuff, maybe with good reason, but I'm a huge fan of "I Don't Know" from his last record.  I guess it's sorta cheesy, but I love it.

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9 minutes ago, Getzlaf15 said:

Knee is back to 80%, so I've been back to work after 7 weeks of no weight at all on my left leg.

So, I ran this idea by Krista this morning and she told me to give it a shot....


So here goes:
1) Anyone that wants to can give me their TOP 25 Rankings via PM.  Give it to me now, give it to me before Krista picks her #25.   I'm not going to look at anyone's list and start compiling them until Krista gets to #30.

2) I will put them all on a google spreadsheet and do a composite ranking of everyone's picks.
Your #25 gets 1 point.  #24 gets 2 points, #1 gets 25 points.

3) After Krista reveals her #25, I will then post everyone's #25 in a following post and post updated standings after every pick until we get to #1. Krista's picks will be part of the composite total also.

My guess is we get 40-50 songs on the list.  It would be awesome if we could get at least ten to do this.  I think it will be awesome to see everyone's lists as a countdown also. 
If there is a huge pushback against doing 25 songs, we could do less, but let's shoot for 25 please. 

I :heart: this idea.  I have some ideas of what I think will be at the top, based on some of the posts here, but very much want to see how this shakes out.  Hope people can do it!  Several have posted a top 10 or so already so it's not that much more...

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

 

122.  Sexy Sadie (White Album, 1968)

 

121.  Glass Onion (White Album, 1968)

 

Oh hell no

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6 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Oh hell no

You know... you’re right.  I should have had Glass Onion lower than that.

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I'm ####ed.... 7 songs already on Kristas list are up for consideration in my Top 25.

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13 minutes ago, Getzlaf15 said:

I'm ####ed.... 7 songs already on Kristas list are up for consideration in my Top 25.

yeah, don't know if it's 7, but the trend isn't good - I'm just going with my top 30 ...it's stressing me out.  😄

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18 minutes ago, Getzlaf15 said:

I'm ####ed.... 7 songs already on Kristas list are up for consideration in my Top 25.

Fool on a Hill x 7?

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Have a list of 55 now.  :lmao:

10 in for sure.   45 left for the other 15.   This nuts.

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7 hours ago, krista4 said:

I'm going to try to get through #103 by Saturday, which would mean I will have done the bottom half.  Then we'll take a halftime break Sunday, coincidentally (not really) in time for the Super Bowl.

Are you having a marching band and cheerleaders over for the game?

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1 hour ago, Uruk-Hai said:

Are you having a marching band and cheerleaders over for the game?

Not this time.  Good memories.  😁

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15 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said:

McCartney's work in that period also contains a whole lotta crap.

Some of his 80s work isn't great (though Tug of War and Flowers in the Dirt are excellent) but he's had consistently good LPs since 1997's Flaming Pie.

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Those are two Keanu whoas in one post. I would guess both are in my top 50. Maybe even 25. Good stuff. 

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11 hours ago, krista4 said:

123.  I Don't Want to Spoil the Party (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Another country-tinged song, and originally written for country-music-fan Ringo to sing lead.  It's unclear why/when it changed to John, but it was a good move instead to have John's double-tracked vocals on the verses with Paul's harmonies on the bridge.  I don't even understand how Ringo could have sung this one, but I'm glad he was there to keep it all tight on the drums.  I'm a fan of George's twangy, Chet-Atkins-style guitar work on this one, even though he's a bit messy with it.  I like to compare and contrast this with some of John's other, more aggressive "you're leaving me" songs (such as "Run for Your Life"), and in this case I appreciate the vulnerability without threats of violence.

Mr. krista:  "They were just trying to write a county song. We're back to really morose.  They can’t really write country, so it sounds like he’s hiding a real misery in this pastiche.  But I think dude was sad."

Suggested cover:  The only cover of a Beatles song to reach #1 on the country charts, Rosanne Cash (don't tell anyone, but I like this version better than the original) :no:

I absolutely love this song.   The harmonies of John and Paul and George's lead 12-string are fantastic.   I'm not sure how much higher I would rank it but probably in the top 75.

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This thread rules. Got me going down the rabbit hole on You Tube to MF Doom and the RZA

I also realize I know so little about the Beatles it's embarrassing. And this is a person who was surrounded by Beatles posters in college.  Everything from White album to precious black and whites from the early albums. My personal knowledge goes from Please Please Me to Beatles For Sale! to Rubber Soul to Revolver.  

Just interesting to find out that there are serious historians out there among us.  

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3 hours ago, pecorino said:

Did no one else catch this?

:confused: 

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17 minutes ago, krista4 said:

:confused: 

It was a Radiohead cover (or reference?) for the song and in the write-up you used the word creep, IIRC.  

So...that maybe what he's thinking. 

 

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