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In this thread I rank my favorite Beatles songs: 204-1.

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Just now, Getzlaf15 said:

your own top 25 PM to me.

k - i know i have a top 10 in the ol' Beatles thread, so i'll flush that out

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5 minutes ago, krista4 said:

107.  No Reply (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

My write-ups are going to be lacking in energy today.  This is a great song.  I don't know why it's not in the top half, except that other songs are instead.

I'll try to do better on the next write-up. Maybe I"ll edit these later.

Mr. krista:  "You creepy stalker.  Take a hint, man."

Suggested covers:  The Flames - the song is just ok, but that album cover is mint.  Gary Holton & Casino Steel - again not a good song, but in this case worth watching for the video.  Hey, the lyrics say "telephone," so let's show a phone!  There's a reference to looking through a window, so let's have him at a window!  I didn't stick around to see how they acted out "I nearly died."

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Gracious. That bad?

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Ok, a stab at krista's top 10:

Yesterday

In My Life

Run For Your Life

Taxman

And Your Bird Can Sing

With a Little Help From My Friends

While My Guitar Gently Weeps

medley

Let It Be

Strawberry Fields Forever

 

(note:   I'm irrationally submitting a top-10 list that doesn't include the song I said would be her #1 song......)

 

 

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106.  Baby You're a Rich Man (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

This is another Beatles song I love, but apparently a little less than 100 or so others.

I should take a nap.

Mr. krista:  "I like it. It’s vaguely Harrison-influenced. I like his falsetto.  Seems way ahead of its time.  You could see Happy Mondays or some of those factory bands playing a song like that."

Suggested cover:  I dunno, sleepy.

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13 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

not much of a list guy. kristapix™ or my own?

I hear ya.  Don't like lists much myself.

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10 minutes ago, Uruk-Hai said:

😄

Gracious. That bad?

Yeah, you'll see it got worse.  I'll regroup a little later.  :) 

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7 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Ok, a stab at krista's top 10:

Yesterday

In My Life

Run For Your Life

Taxman

And Your Bird Can Sing

With a Little Help From My Friends

While My Guitar Gently Weeps

medley

Let It Be

Strawberry Fields Forever

 

(note:   I'm irrationally submitting a top-10 list that doesn't include the song I said would be her #1 song......)

 

 

Just covering your bases!

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14 minutes ago, krista4 said:

107.  No Reply (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

My write-ups are going to be lacking in energy today.  This is a great song.  I don't know why it's not in the top half, except that other songs are instead

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5 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

(note:   I'm irrationally submitting a top-10 list that doesn't include the song I said would be her #1 song......)

 

I did the same thing.  :lol:

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13 hours ago, shuke said:

Sent my list to Getz.  Was resisting because it is taking away precious time from my other project, which this thread has inspired me to finish.

 

bout time.

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4 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I hear ya.  Don't like lists much myself.

😮 Good Lord....... 

We're losing her, folks. Hangover remedies - stat

 

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13 minutes ago, krista4 said:

Just covering your bases!

No, it's truly irrational.   I should have made the top-10 list first......just poor execution.

I'm submitting the top-25 shortly too.  Not really happy about it.  No idea how the hell you ranked 204 songs.

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Just now, Binky The Doormat said:

with you UH ...though I have it at #45 - love it.  

"Fixing A Hole"

I think Runt was listening to this one quite a bit.

I know the song doesn't really go anywhere, but I love the atmosphere. Also, it shows pretty much all of Paul's singing chops.

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2 minutes ago, Uruk-Hai said:

I think Runt was listening to this one quite a bit.

I know the song doesn't really go anywhere, but I love the atmosphere. Also, it shows pretty much all of Paul's singing chops.

completely with you on accounts here.  😎

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6 minutes ago, Uruk-Hai said:

We lost her, didn't we?

I'm here!  Starting on the next one; going to improve my performance from earlier.  :lol:

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Just now, krista4 said:

I'm here!  Starting on the next one; going to improve my performance from earlier.  :lol:

YES!!!!!!!

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

106.  Baby You're a Rich Man (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

This is another Beatles song I love, but apparently a little less than 100 or so others.

I should take a nap.

Mr. krista:  "I like it. It’s vaguely Harrison-influenced. I like his falsetto.  Seems way ahead of its time.  You could see Happy Mondays or some of those factory bands playing a song like that."

Suggested cover:  I dunno, sleepy.

I don't blame you for napping on this one

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105.  I Me Mine (Let It Be, 1970)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Though most of Let It Be was recorded before Abbey Road, the version of this song recorded during the Let It Be sessions was not included on the album.  Instead, this version was later recorded (after Abbey Road), making this the last song the Beatles ever recorded together.  :cry: Or, sorta together, since John didn't participate.  In fact, it appeared that neither Paul nor John ever much liked this song.  What do those dummies know about music.  

George composed this "heavy waltz" after an LSD trip caused him to look at everything around him and see ego, so the song is a criticism of egotism.  I'd quote some of his actual words here if I understood them at all; George was on a different plane than I am (I intend that admiringly).  Well, here's part of it anyway:  "'I Me Mine' is the ego problem. There are two 'I's: the little 'i' when people say 'I am this'; and the big 'I' – i.e. Om, the complete, whole universal consciousness that is devoid of duality and ego. There is nothing that isn't part of the complete whole. When the little 'i' merges into the big 'I' then you are really smiling!"

This is one of the only songs on the record where I strongly prefer the Spector-ized version.  The Spector version - adding 27 strings and six brass! - captures an eerie feel that I associated with the underlying basis of the song and also seems to have better flowiness.  Which is not a word, I guess.  Anyway, great jam.  Beautiful vocal.  Love the guitar intro.  Particularly nice work by Ringo.  Funky AF. That middle that doesn’t seem to fit with the rest of the song is way cool (apparently a Paul contribution - WTGPM).    

Mr. krista:  "I like that song, too.  Solid four to start this record.  I like that heavy chorus after the first part’s a waltz and then that is hard 4/4.  Great Harrison jam."

Suggested covers:  Beth Orton  Spoon

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40 minutes ago, Uruk-Hai said:

I don't blame you for napping on this one

Aw, really?  I love that song!  I'll fix the write-ups for those first two today once I complete the next two write-ups and 🥁 get to #102.  

Next two are going to make some people happy and some people very sad.

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On 2/1/2019 at 9:59 AM, krista4 said:

Let's just get this over with.

113.  Rocky Raccoon (White Album, 1968)

Beatles version:  Spotify YouTube

I like that Paul tried to do a cowboy song.  It's charming.  Love the harmonica.  Beautiful vocal.  Sweet little encapsulated story, even though I find some of the lyrics grating and forced:  Her name was Magill, and she called herself Lil, but everyone knew her as Nancy.  But I dock this song a full 50 slots solely because I HATE the fake drawl at the beginning.  Somewhere earlier in the thread @Uruk-Hai pointed out that Paul and John needed to edit themselves better sometimes.  I think Paul just needed a best friend to tell him not to do this ####, and during the White Album years John was not that best friend, nor was anyone else.  I can't fully express how much I love/hate this song, with probably more mixed feelings about it than any other in their repertoire.    

Mr. krista does not have mixed feelings:  "I hate that he can’t resist to throw in a jaunty piano part.  The fake cowboy drawl is ludicrous.  It’s as bad as an American singing in an affected British accent.  I hate that it seems C/W/blues/folk – these are American forms, and it seems like he’s making fun of it.  He’s not, but it seems smug.  It really really bothers me.  You don’t fully understand this #### so leave it the #### alone.  It’s like Willie Nelson trying to play the Sex Pistols – Willie, leave it alone.  It’s not your jam.  Or Miles Davis playing…well, Miles Davis probably could."

Suggested covers:  Eddie Vedder & Jack Johnson  This version, lacking a fake cowboy accent, would be ranked much, much higher on my list.  Lena Horne (thanks to @Eephus for this one).  FFA's own Nipsey.

 

 

Never been a big fan of this song.   I've come to realize from krista's notes in this thread that I despise songs about Paul's "imaginary worlds."

Side note:  many many years ago I nearly dumped Mrs APK (pre-marriage) after she referred to this song as "one of my favorite Beatles' songs of all time."  The thought of dating (and maybe marrying) someone who loved this song was deeply disturbing, like if you found out one of your best friends had dated Ted Cruz.

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18 minutes ago, krista4 said:

Aw, really?  I love that song!  I'll fix the write-ups for those first two today once I complete the next two write-ups and 🥁 get to #102.  

Next two are going to make some people happy and some people very sad.

The title pisses me off, and I couldn't explain why if my life depended on it. But, more, the song just bores me.

Keep in mind that I'm the guy who picked Fixing A Hole in his Top Ten

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19 hours ago, krista4 said:

105.  I Me Mine (Let It Be, 1970)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

 

Ah, wait til you hear Tiffany Varjak sing it.

I've only written two arrangements of Beatles songs. The best is of a song i will mention when it's relevant to the list. My favorite is this.

As a matter of fact it's part of what has rapidly become my favorite writing file. There are some writing projects that are what i call "cheeseproof" and my "sequel" to the Breakfast at Tiffany's movie is one. It's 1982 and Paul "Fred Baby" Varjak, who made a fortune with his novel about his wife, Holly (nee Golightly), bought the E71st brownstone where they met when Holly killed herself a decade after they moved to Connecticut and has now given it to his daughter as a college graduation present. All Tiffany Varjak wants is to be a punk, but punk is already dead. Her sublimation is to play punkish versions of 60s classics like Manic Depression, Ruby Tuesday (which she introduces "here's a song about my period" and it's weird how well it works as one, as well as her targeting a version of Let's Spend the Night Together at anyone who gets up in disgust) and this one, which she opens with Moonlight Sonata, progresses seamlessly into I, Me, Mine and ends by her violently assaulting the keys and screaming IIIIIIIIIII, MEEEE, MEEEEEE,  MIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNE!!!!! then trying to tip the piano over. She's immensely hot and talented so she gets away with it and every word i put into her mouth, sung or spoken, is an utter joy. Of course, i can never submit it til i'm big enough not to worry rights, and i'm never gonna be that big, but boy is it a great workout.

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:hey: @Shaft41

 

104.  The Long and Winding Road (Let It Be, 1970)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

My view of the Spector-ing of this song is completely the opposite of what I posted above about "I Me Mine."  In this instance, if I were forced to rank the Spector-ed version, it would be in my bottom 20 songs.  I hate what he did on this one that much - to me, it feels like he made it into a Disney song or the part in a particularly schmaltzy rom-com where the two leads run across the screen finally landing into each other's arms.  I also especially despise the "Yeah yeah yeah" from Paul at the end.  I realize some people prefer the Spector version, and I'm not saying those people are all murderers or rapists in their spare time, but that they are not people I'd feel safe being in the same room with.

On my side in the "Spector or no Spector" argument on this song I have some pretty good company - Paul McCartney.  Paul was absolutely livid about Spector being brought in to remix the album, which was done without informing either him or George Martin.  It seems to have been an idea coming from John and Allen Klein (the hiring of whom was another source of huge rancor between Paul and the others), and George and Ringo didn't object.   But Paul's ire was particularly strong in terms of what they did to this song, especially the addition of a female choir, which Paul said never should have been a Beatles record.  In typical nice Paul fashion he later said, "I don't think it made it the worst record ever, but the fact that now people were putting stuff on our records that certainly one of us didn't know about was wrong," but at the time, he was more direct:  God how I :wub: Paul's letter to Allen Klein about this. 

Unfortunately the letter didn't do any good.  Nor was George Martin's suggestion accepted that the liner notes should read "Produced by George Martin, over-produced by Phil Spector."

So, I'm evaluating the "Naked" version instead, which is what I've linked above - by the way, I was a little worried about googling "long winding naked" but it all turned out OK.  Listening to that one, what I love most about this song is Paul's voice.  It just might be my favorite Paul vocal in all of Beatledom; it is so pure, tender, and vulnerable.  The problem is that I just don't connect with the rest of the song that well.  Maybe it's just PTSD from the Spector version.  I don't find the lyrics bad, but they also don't do anything for me.  The music is just OK to me - John flubs the bass quite a bit, and I actively dislike some of the piano accompaniment.  But because I love that vocal so hard, I still find this song hauntingly beautiful and count it as a favorite.  Well, a top 100-ish favorite.

Mr. krista:  "The naked version is a lot better, but it’s still not any good.  It just seems so maudlin and affected.  There’s a pomposity about it.  The strings and all that had been the focus of my ire, but hearing it without all that…what I like best are John Lennon’s ####ed-up bass notes."

Suggested cover:  As you'd expect, there are a lot of good covers of this song.  Since Paul said he wrote this song with Ray Charles in mind, and Ray said he cried the first time he heard the song, seems most fitting to post his cover.  Plus, he's Ray Charles.

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

105.  I Me Mine (Let It Be, 1970)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Though most of Let It Be was recorded before Abbey Road, the version of this song recorded during the Let It Be sessions was not included on the album.  Instead, this version was later recorded (after Abbey Road), making this the last song the Beatles ever recorded together.  :cry: Or, sorta together, since John didn't participate.  In fact, it appeared that neither Paul nor John ever much liked this song.  What do those dummies know about music.  

George composed this "heavy waltz" after an LSD trip caused him to look at everything around him and see ego, so the song is a criticism of egotism.  I'd quote some of his actual words here if I understood them at all; George was on a different plane than I am (I intend that admiringly).  Well, here's part of it anyway:  "'I Me Mine' is the ego problem. There are two 'I's: the little 'i' when people say 'I am this'; and the big 'I' – i.e. Om, the complete, whole universal consciousness that is devoid of duality and ego. There is nothing that isn't part of the complete whole. When the little 'i' merges into the big 'I' then you are really smiling!"

This is one of the only songs on the record where I strongly prefer the Spector-ized version.  The Spector version - adding 27 strings and six brass! - captures an eerie feel that I associated with the underlying basis of the song and also seems to have better flowiness.  Which is not a word, I guess.  Anyway, great jam.  Beautiful vocal.  Love the guitar intro.  Particularly nice work by Ringo.  Funky AF. That middle that doesn’t seem to fit with the rest of the song is way cool (apparently a Paul contribution - WTGPM).    

Mr. krista:  "I like that song, too.  Solid four to start this record.  I like that heavy chorus after the first part’s a waltz and then that is hard 4/4.  Great Harrison jam."

Suggested covers:  Beth Orton  Spoon

#16 on the Binky's personal hit list.  Go George!! 

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50 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Never been a big fan of this song.   I've come to realize from krista's notes in this thread that I despise songs about Paul's "imaginary worlds."

Side note:  many many years ago I nearly dumped Mrs APK (pre-marriage) after she referred to this song as "one of my favorite Beatles' songs of all time."  The thought of dating (and maybe marrying) someone who loved this song was deeply disturbing, like if you found out one of your best friends had dated Ted Cruz.

:lmao: It's a little like when I didn't speak to Mr. krista when he told me Paul was his least favorite Beatle.  I'm glad it all worked out for the APK family.

I definitely rate Paul's "imaginary world" songs lower than his more personal stuff.  Some people love those, though.  I do admire the creativity of it.  I just don't care much about those people, and I'd rather hear about Paul himself.

40 minutes ago, Uruk-Hai said:

The title pisses me off, and I couldn't explain why if my life depended on it. But, more, the song just bores me.

Keep in mind that I'm the guy who picked Fixing A Hole in his Top Ten

Think I'll redo the write-ups for that and "No Reply" before I get to my final pick today.  I do understand what you mean about it boring you; parts of it bore me as well.

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My opinion on Phil Spector is that he should have stopped after 1966. With everything. His last production that I like is River Deep by Ike & Tina.

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21 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

Ah, wait til you hear Tiffany Varjak sing it.

I've only written two arrangements of Beatles songs. The best is of a song i will mention when it's relevant to the list. My favorite is this.

As a matter of fact it's part of what has rapidly become my favorite writing file. There are some writing projects that are what i call "cheeseproof" and my "sequel" to the Breakfast at Tiffany's movie is one. It's 1982 and Paul "Eddie Baby" Varjak, who made a fortune with his novel about his wife, Holly (nee Golightly), bought the E71st brownstone where they met when Holly killed herself a decade after they moved to Connecticut and has now given it to his daughter as a college graduation present. All Tiffany Varjak wants is to be a punk, but punk is already dead. Her sublimation is to play punkish versions of 60s classics like Manic Depression, Ruby Tuesday (which she introduces "here's a song about my period" and it's weird how well it works as one, as well as her targeting a version of Let's Spend the Night Together at anyone who gets up in disgust) and this one, which she opens with Moonlight Sonata, progresses seamlessly into I, Me, Mine and ends by her violently assaulting the keys and screaming IIIIIIIIIII, MEEEE, MEEEEEE,  MIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNE!!!!! then trying to tip the piano over. She's immensely hot and talented so she gets away with it and every word i put into her mouth, sung or spoken, is an utter joy. Of course, i can never submit it til i'm big enough not to worry rights, and i'm never gonna be that big, but boy is it a great workout.

I can't imagine what it's like to live inside your brain.  I mean that admiringly, too.

Isn't the other one "And I Love Her"?  I feel like you've mentioned it before and that was it, but I could very well be misremembering.  Gah, now I'm not confident at all that I have that right.  

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4 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I can't imagine what it's like to live inside your brain.  

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7 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I can't imagine what it's like to live inside your brain.  I mean that admiringly, too.

Isn't the other one "And I Love Her"?  I feel like you've mentioned it before and that was it, but I could very well be misremembering.  Gah, now I'm not confident at all that I have that right.  

then thank you. it really is a hoot. i have to feed & diaper a 94yo harridan who i've never liked twice a day and listen to her equally insipid 93yo husband blame gays for hurricanes all the time. the holiday camp in my head is the only reason i'm still here.

yes on AILH. there's a tremendous soul ballad in there. amazingly, Bobby Womack covered it and MISSED every bit of R&B phrasing that jumps out at me. my bff looooves the Hard Day's Night soundtrack and we worked most of those songs when i lived out back of his house a few years ago. his bassline led me in and i honestly dont know a Beatle cover this side of Cocker's "With a Little Help" that's better. If i could just Nipsey you the bridge, you'd see.

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4 hours ago, krista4 said:

107.  No Reply (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

My write-ups are going to be lacking in energy today.  This is a great song.  I don't know why it's not in the top half, except that other songs are instead.

I'll try to do better on the next write-up. Maybe I"ll edit these later.

Mr. krista:  "You creepy stalker.  Take a hint, man."

Suggested covers:  The Flames - the song is just ok, but that album cover is mint.  Gary Holton & Casino Steel - again not a good song, but in this case worth watching for the video.  Hey, the lyrics say "telephone," so let's show a phone!  There's a reference to looking through a window, so let's have him at a window!  I didn't stick around to see how they acted out "I nearly died."

OK, let me try to do a better job here.

Did John get cheated on a whole lot?  Cuz I just realized how many of his songs are about being cheated on.  I can't imagine bland Cynthia would have gotten that much action.  John, I would not have cheated on you, even with Paul.  :cry: 

John described this as his version of the song "Silhouettes," which had been a hit for the NY group, The Rays.  I didn't know that song and just listened to it; it's nifty.  John wrote this one for Tommy Quickly to use, but he didn't - I always wonder about these people who passed on what became Beatles songs.  The Beatles's publisher Dick James complimented John that this was the first song he'd written with a complete story.  I'm not sure why that was important, but I guess it was to Dick James.

Something I love about the song is how dark it is for the time.  Even in 1964 they were starting to move away from the cheery pop into a deeper, more adult place.  I love the way John can glide between the moodiness of the verses and into that crazy-catchy middle eight with ease.  The change in feel and tempo on the middle is jarring but still works, in large part due to the Paul's gorgeous high harmonies that sound nearly unhinged.  I wonder if the middle was contributed by Paul?  Always enjoy the songs where they've both contributed their own styles like that.  Ringo's bossa-nova-style drumming and his changes are fantastic throughout this song.

Fine, maybe I would have cheated on John with Paul.  But not with Ringo!

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46 minutes ago, krista4 said:

104.  The Long and Winding Road (Let It Be, 1970)

Tons of great content.

Seriously, you should gather these into a single document when you're done, add to it, give it at least one or two serious edits, and self-publish or, at the very least, post it to places like Reddit.  It's a treasure trove of fantastic info, Krista.

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8 minutes ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:

Seriously, you should gather these into a single document when you're done, add to it, give it at least one or two serious edits, and self-publish or, at the very least, post it to places like Reddit.  It's a treasure trove of fantastic info, Krista.

That's exceptionally kind of you - thank you!  On this one, there is so much interesting information out there.  A part I left out because I already had said so much was when Spector got so out of control during the remixing that Ringo, who was the only Beatle there at the time, grabbed his arm and pulled him outside for a private conversation, after which Spector was a bit better behaved.  This was said to be completely out of character for Ringo to be at all assertive, so Spector must have been ridiculous.  Geoff Emerick said the session was absolutely ludicrous.

Anyway, thank you!  

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

:hey: @Shaft41

 

104.  The Long and Winding Road (Let It Be, 1970)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

My view of the Spector-ing of this song is completely the opposite of what I posted above about "I Me Mine."  In this instance, if I were forced to rank the Spector-ed version, it would be in my bottom 20 songs.  I hate what he did on this one that much - to me, it feels like he made it into a Disney song or the part in a particularly schmaltzy rom-com where the two leads run across the screen finally landing into each other's arms.  I also especially despise the "Yeah yeah yeah" from Paul at the end.  I realize some people prefer the Spector version, and I'm not saying those people are all murderers or rapists in their spare time, but that they are not people I'd feel safe being in the same room with.

On my side in the "Spector or no Spector" argument on this song I have some pretty good company - Paul McCartney.  Paul was absolutely livid about Spector being brought in to remix the album, which was done without informing either him or George Martin.  It seems to have been an idea coming from John and Allen Klein (the hiring of whom was another source of huge rancor between Paul and the others), and George and Ringo didn't object.   But Paul's ire was particularly strong in terms of what they did to this song, especially the addition of a female choir, which Paul said never should have been a Beatles record.  In typical nice Paul fashion he later said, "I don't think it made it the worst record ever, but the fact that now people were putting stuff on our records that certainly one of us didn't know about was wrong," but at the time, he was more direct:  God how I :wub: Paul's letter to Allen Klein about this. 

Unfortunately the letter didn't do any good.  Nor was George Martin's suggestion accepted that the liner notes should read "Produced by George Martin, over-produced by Phil Spector."

So, I'm evaluating the "Naked" version instead, which is what I've linked above - by the way, I was a little worried about googling "long winding naked" but it all turned out OK.  Listening to that one, what I love most about this song is Paul's voice.  It just might be my favorite Paul vocal in all of Beatledom; it is so pure, tender, and vulnerable.  The problem is that I just don't connect with the rest of the song that well.  Maybe it's just PTSD from the Spector version.  I don't find the lyrics bad, but they also don't do anything for me.  The music is just OK to me - John flubs the bass quite a bit, and I actively dislike some of the piano accompaniment.  But because I love that vocal so hard, I still find this song hauntingly beautiful and count it as a favorite.  Well, a top 100-ish favorite.

Mr. krista:  "The naked version is a lot better, but it’s still not any good.  It just seems so maudlin and affected.  There’s a pomposity about it.  The strings and all that had been the focus of my ire, but hearing it without all that…what I like best are John Lennon’s ####ed-up bass notes."

Suggested cover:  As you'd expect, there are a lot of good covers of this song.  Since Paul said he wrote this song with Ray Charles in mind, and Ray said he cried the first time he heard the song, seems most fitting to post his cover.  Plus, he's Ray Charles.

Thank you thank you thank you x10000 for using the Naked version.  

I absolutely agree with you on appreciating the song in a new way after this version was released.  Wall of Sound version was always too schmaltzy for me as well, to the point where I flat out refuse to acknowledge its existence.

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5 hours ago, krista4 said:

106.  Baby You're a Rich Man (single, 1967)

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This is another Beatles song I love, but apparently a little less than 100 or so others.

I should take a nap.

Mr. krista:  "I like it. It’s vaguely Harrison-influenced. I like his falsetto.  Seems way ahead of its time.  You could see Happy Mondays or some of those factory bands playing a song like that."

Suggested cover:  I dunno, sleepy.

OK, to improve upon this one as well:

Another of the songs to combine a John fragment with a Paul fragment, this one just ####### grabs me right out of the gate with that sped-up clavioline part over the driving bass and percussion.  Yes, I had to look up what that was, as I had written it down as "that funky snake-charmer-sounding hoozit."  I ####### love it.  #1 Fan of Clavioline.  Unfortunately that part of the song is by far my favorite part of it, with only the John vocal as the other standout, and the song loses me nearly completely on the "baby you're a rich man" part that revolves around just one note.  I can understand why Uruk is bored by it.  But damn, that opening.  I'd like a 20-minute song of just all that noise.

It's thought that Mick Jagger might be on backing vocals on this one, btw.

Still couldn't find a good cover of this, though.  Thought for sure there'd be a version out there with a guy playing a shehnai to mimic the clavioline part, but I was wrong.

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21 minutes ago, Ted Lange as your Bartender said:

Thank you thank you thank you x10000 for using the Naked version.  

I absolutely agree with you on appreciating the song in a new way after this version was released.  Wall of Sound version was always too schmaltzy for me as well, to the point where I flat out refuse to acknowledge its existence.

You're a gentleman and a scholar.  :hifive:

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Changing my mind on #103.  ####.

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5 hours ago, Getzlaf15 said:

You added two songs that no one had selected before.

One of them is rather shocking.  I had to triple check to make sure I had to add it and could not believe it wasn't on a prior list.

19 lists now :thumbup:

This song that you were the first to add has been added on the next two lists for three-in-a-row.

Another song that was on 4 of the first 5 lists has only been listed once since.

21 lists in now.

One song has been on 18 of them.

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2 hours ago, krista4 said:

:hey: @Shaft41

 

104.  The Long and Winding Road (Let It Be, 1970)

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My view of the Spector-ing of this song is completely the opposite of what I posted above about "I Me Mine."  In this instance, if I were forced to rank the Spector-ed version, it would be in my bottom 20 songs.  I hate what he did on this one that much - to me, it feels like he made it into a Disney song or the part in a particularly schmaltzy rom-com where the two leads run across the screen finally landing into each other's arms.  I also especially despise the "Yeah yeah yeah" from Paul at the end.  I realize some people prefer the Spector version, and I'm not saying those people are all murderers or rapists in their spare time, but that they are not people I'd feel safe being in the same room with.

On my side in the "Spector or no Spector" argument on this song I have some pretty good company - Paul McCartney.  Paul was absolutely livid about Spector being brought in to remix the album, which was done without informing either him or George Martin.  It seems to have been an idea coming from John and Allen Klein (the hiring of whom was another source of huge rancor between Paul and the others), and George and Ringo didn't object.   But Paul's ire was particularly strong in terms of what they did to this song, especially the addition of a female choir, which Paul said never should have been a Beatles record.  In typical nice Paul fashion he later said, "I don't think it made it the worst record ever, but the fact that now people were putting stuff on our records that certainly one of us didn't know about was wrong," but at the time, he was more direct:  God how I :wub: Paul's letter to Allen Klein about this. 

Unfortunately the letter didn't do any good.  Nor was George Martin's suggestion accepted that the liner notes should read "Produced by George Martin, over-produced by Phil Spector."

So, I'm evaluating the "Naked" version instead, which is what I've linked above - by the way, I was a little worried about googling "long winding naked" but it all turned out OK.  Listening to that one, what I love most about this song is Paul's voice.  It just might be my favorite Paul vocal in all of Beatledom; it is so pure, tender, and vulnerable.  The problem is that I just don't connect with the rest of the song that well.  Maybe it's just PTSD from the Spector version.  I don't find the lyrics bad, but they also don't do anything for me.  The music is just OK to me - John flubs the bass quite a bit, and I actively dislike some of the piano accompaniment.  But because I love that vocal so hard, I still find this song hauntingly beautiful and count it as a favorite.  Well, a top 100-ish favorite.

Mr. krista:  "The naked version is a lot better, but it’s still not any good.  It just seems so maudlin and affected.  There’s a pomposity about it.  The strings and all that had been the focus of my ire, but hearing it without all that…what I like best are John Lennon’s ####ed-up bass notes."

Suggested cover:  As you'd expect, there are a lot of good covers of this song.  Since Paul said he wrote this song with Ray Charles in mind, and Ray said he cried the first time he heard the song, seems most fitting to post his cover.  Plus, he's Ray Charles.

Yes, the Naked version is better. But the Spectorized bastardization has forever established this trash in the irredeemability pile. Thank God this didn't make your top 100; I wouldn't have wanted to detour off THIS fabulous long and winding road you're skillfully driving us down. 

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2 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said:
On 2/1/2019 at 10:59 AM, krista4 said:

Let's just get this over with.

113.  Rocky Raccoon (White Album, 1968)

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I like that Paul tried to do a cowboy song.  It's charming.  Love the harmonica.  Beautiful vocal.  Sweet little encapsulated story, even though I find some of the lyrics grating and forced:  Her name was Magill, and she called herself Lil, but everyone knew her as Nancy.  But I dock this song a full 50 slots solely because I HATE the fake drawl at the beginning.  Somewhere earlier in the thread @Uruk-Hai pointed out that Paul and John needed to edit themselves better sometimes.  I think Paul just needed a best friend to tell him not to do this ####, and during the White Album years John was not that best friend, nor was anyone else.  I can't fully express how much I love/hate this song, with probably more mixed feelings about it than any other in their repertoire.    

Mr. krista does not have mixed feelings:  "I hate that he can’t resist to throw in a jaunty piano part.  The fake cowboy drawl is ludicrous.  It’s as bad as an American singing in an affected British accent.  I hate that it seems C/W/blues/folk – these are American forms, and it seems like he’s making fun of it.  He’s not, but it seems smug.  It really really bothers me.  You don’t fully understand this #### so leave it the #### alone.  It’s like Willie Nelson trying to play the Sex Pistols – Willie, leave it alone.  It’s not your jam.  Or Miles Davis playing…well, Miles Davis probably could."

Suggested covers:  Eddie Vedder & Jack Johnson  This version, lacking a fake cowboy accent, would be ranked much, much higher on my list.  Lena Horne (thanks to @Eephus for this one).  FFA's own Nipsey.

 

 

Never been a big fan of this song.   I've come to realize from krista's notes in this thread that I despise songs about Paul's "imaginary worlds."

Side note:  many many years ago I nearly dumped Mrs APK (pre-marriage) after she referred to this song as "one of my favorite Beatles' songs of all time."  The thought of dating (and maybe marrying) someone who loved this song was deeply disturbing, like if you found out one of your best friends had dated Ted Cruz.

I love this song, but only for purely sentimental reasons. On my last (8 month long) Med cruise while I was in the Navy, we sang this on a beach somewhere. There was a driftwood campfire...and between my failing middle age memory + alcohol-was-a-factor, I have a vivid memory of a dozen guys singing the chorus - but I honestly can’t remember if it was Haifa, Israel or Palma de Mallorca. But it’s a fond memory.

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51 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

I love this song, but only for purely sentimental reasons. On my last (8 month long) Med cruise while I was in the Navy, we sang this on a beach somewhere. There was a driftwood campfire...and between my failing middle age memory + alcohol-was-a-factor, I have a vivid memory of a dozen guys singing the chorus - but I honestly can’t remember if it was Haifa, Israel or Palma de Mallorca. But it’s a fond memory.

That's pretty awesome.

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103.  Love Me Do (Please Please Me, 1962)

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It's hard to put this song, which was part of their audition for George Martin and became their first hit single - the one that started it all! - in the bottom half, but setting sentimentality aside, this isn't one of their top-half-of-the-countdown efforts.  Love love love the harmonica, and the vocals are sweet. but the song is sooooo simple.  The lyrics are simple and repetitive (Paul wrote most of this when he was 15 or 16); the guitar part is simple; the drums are simple (though apparently not simple enough to save Pete Best from getting fired after the audition).  The harmonica saves it, along with Paul's charming "love me do" at the end of each line - Paul singing that bit was George Martin's idea so that John could focus on the harmonica part there instead of switching back and forth.  Worst of all, of course, is that Ringo is not on the album version of the song - George Martin went to his grave knowing I had never forgiven him for substituting Andy White in this session (discussed previously about with respect to "P.S. I Love You").  Or maybe not.

The song rose to 17th on the UK charts; the rumor was that this was in part because Brian Epstein bought 10,000 copies himself for his record store, but both Epstein and John denied this was true.  This song is exciting to me mostly because of what it led to, rather than what it is.  And due to that harmonica.  :) 

Fun John fact:  the harmonica John played on this was allegedly shoplifted by him during their Hamburg days.

Fun Paul fact:  Paul didn't ever play this song in his solo shows, thinking it was too "little," until the mid-2010s, when he started doing it at the request of, among others...David Bowie.  

Mr. krista:  "Great harmonica.  I like that beat, so slow, plodding, and heavy.  That’s about it.  About the sixth best of seven songs so far."

Suggested cover:  David Bowie & Jeff Beck (starts ~4:26)

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2 minutes ago, krista4 said:

103.  Love Me Do (Please Please Me, 1962)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

It's hard to put this song, which was part of their audition for George Martin and became their first hit single - the one that started it all! - in the bottom half, but setting sentimentality aside, this isn't one of their top-half-of-the-countdown efforts.  Love love love the harmonica, of course, and the vocals are sweet. but the song is sooooo simple.  The lyrics are simple and repetitive (Paul wrote most of this when he was 15 or 16); the guitar part is simple; the drums are simple (though apparently not simple enough to save Pete Best from getting fired after the audition).  The harmonica saves it, along with Paul's charming "love me do" at the end of each line - Paul singing that bit was George Martin's idea so that John could focus on the harmonica part there instead of switching back and forth.  Worst of all, of course, is that Ringo is not on the album version of the song - George Martin went to his grave knowing I had never forgiven him for substituting Andy White in this session (discussed previously about with respect to "P.S. I Love You").  Or maybe not.

The song rose to 17th on the UK charts; the rumor was that this was in part because Brian Epstein bought 10,000 copies himself for his record store, but both Epstein and John denied this was true.  This song is exciting to me mostly because of what it led to, rather than what it is.  And due to that harmonica.  :)  Fun fact:  the harmonica John played on this was allegedly shoplifted by him during their Hamburg days.

Fun fact:  Paul didn't ever play this song in his solo shows, thinking it was too "little," until the mid-2010s, when he started doing it at the request of, among others...David Bowie.  

Mr. krista:  "Great harmonica.  I like that beat, so slow, plodding, and heavy.  That’s about it.  About the sixth best of seven songs so far."

Suggested cover:  David Bowie & Jeff Beck (starts ~4:26)

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Thought for sure “Love Me Do” was at least 102nd or 100th.

#blasphemy #outrage #sacrilegious  

Deeply disappointed. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK I’m back. Congrats on 50% @krista4

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