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In this thread I rank my favorite Beatles songs: 204-1.

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7 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Apparently John misheard it as Armchair too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSM5MpKSnqE  (1:46)

Also listen to the Anthology 3 (take 1) version 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXOGsyoY9Cw

There is no way he's singing "hold you in his arm's yeah" 

I've always heard "Hold you in his arms 'til"

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1 hour ago, Yankee23Fan said:

Within Without You is on my 25 as well. 

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I suspect we won’t have a lot in common in our 25.  Just an impression based on vague memories of your music-related posts.

I wonder, if I submitted my top 25 to Getz, if I’d add any new ones to his list.  I think one might be a possibility, but the others are probably already on there.

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

I suspect we won’t have a lot in common in our 25.  Just an impression based on vague memories of your music-related posts.

I wonder, if I submitted my top 25 to Getz, if I’d add any new ones to his list.  I think one might be a possibility, but the others are probably already on there.

Probably - no biggie.  When it comes to "your favorite" song of a group there are just some groups where there are no wrong answers to me.  The Beatles, Queen and Billy Joel are those types of artists/groups for me.  Their collection is so good, for so long, in so many different ways that even I would probably change my favorites at any given time.

The only thing that I get slightly annoyed at is people that refuse to "like" the more popular songs of a group because they popular.  There was a time when Queen fans hated Bohemian Rhapsody because it got overplayed by Wayne and Garth and there was far too often when people would say that it isn't even their best song.  As a musical movement, it is by far their best song.  There are few songs in rock history that match its power on numerous levels.  But I can understand it not being a personal favorite from their collection - I'm not sure it's my favorite.  But to not give certain songs their due simply because they are popular is an exercise with no satisfying result to me.

 

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6 minutes ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

Is the Getzlaf 25 supposed to be in order or just the 25 songs randomly listed?

I don't know but I rank-ordered mine. And botched it a few times before getting it right.  

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38 minutes ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

Is the Getzlaf 25 supposed to be in order or just the 25 songs randomly listed?

in order

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22 minutes ago, Uruk-Hai said:
1 hour ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

Is the Getzlaf 25 supposed to be in order or just the 25 songs randomly listed?

in order

Right.  And @Getzlaf15 will plot each person's top 25 against K4's in a chart and perform a regression analysis. The person with the smallest standard deviation gets @krista4's old house the next time she moves.

I think.

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15 minutes ago, heckmanm said:

Right.  And @Getzlaf15 will plot each person's top 25 against K4's in a chart and perform a regression analysis. The person with the smallest standard deviation gets @krista4's old house the next time she moves.

I think.

What the heck, man?  m

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Top 25 sent but I'm going to pass on the other contests.  Daddy needs a very slightly used house!  

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I did my top 25 list quickly a week or so ago.  I deliberately just did it without thinking and agonizing over it too much, because I know that was a long and winding road I didn't want to go down.  I'm excited that I just looked it over again, and there's maybe only one or two songs I would change on it.  We'll see how it looks in another week or so.  

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House talk is a sore subject right now.  My old one, which has been on the market since August, saw its sale fall through this week for the second time.  

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2 hours ago, Yankee23Fan said:

Probably - no biggie.  When it comes to "your favorite" song of a group there are just some groups where there are no wrong answers to me.  The Beatles, Queen and Billy Joel are those types of artists/groups for me.  Their collection is so good, for so long, in so many different ways that even I would probably change my favorites at any given time.

The only thing that I get slightly annoyed at is people that refuse to "like" the more popular songs of a group because they popular.  There was a time when Queen fans hated Bohemian Rhapsody because it got overplayed by Wayne and Garth and there was far too often when people would say that it isn't even their best song.  As a musical movement, it is by far their best song.  There are few songs in rock history that match its power on numerous levels.  But I can understand it not being a personal favorite from their collection - I'm not sure it's my favorite.  But to not give certain songs their due simply because they are popular is an exercise with no satisfying result to me.

 

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Three lists came in this morning. That gives us 27!    All three lists contained a song that was only on 2 of the first 24.  

There are some definite tiers showing up, so many thanks for all the lists and keep them coming!  (please number them!)

There are three songs tied for most list appearances at 22.  Next highest is 19.

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87.  Wait (Rubber Soul, 1965)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Things are a bit of a crapshoot at this point.  I mean, these are all great songs.  Somehow when I did my original rankings into five tiers, this one ended up in the fourth tier.  I don't know why, and now I've placed it more in line with what I actually think.  Maybe because Rubber Soul is just so damn good, this one suffers in comparison - it's a little same-y, and I don't like the ending.   What I do love is the build of the instrumentation in each of the verses - the light tambourine building into the maracas and drums, the backward fill from Ringo at 0:11, the guitar adding in mimicry of the yelp, "Wait!".  That sonic build gives the song such a pleasing texture, and I think the rhythms of the song work as a further expression of the lyrics, as if they were the stop-and-start of a relationship.

The song was recorded for Help! but ultimately left off that album, but the exact provenance of this song is somewhat unknown.  For years most people credited is as solely or mostly a John song, but in the mid-90s Paul indicated that he thought this was his composition with little or no input from John, and that he wrote it in the Bahamas while hanging out with former child actor Brandon de Wilde.  To me, the insecurity of the verses sounds like John and the sunnier bridge like Paul.

Mr. krista:  "I like playing maracas instead of a high hat.  The first time I heard that was Sonic Youth and it sounded so good.  Now that I think about it, it’s the same beat. [Plays Sonic Youth song 'Bull in the Heather.']  Yes, it’s the same."

Suggested cover:  Wowza.  Bettye LaVette

 

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3 minutes ago, krista4 said:

Mr. krista:  "I like playing maracas instead of a high hat.  The first time I heard that was Sonic Youth and it sounded so good.  Now that I think about it, it’s the same beat. [Plays Sonic Youth song 'Bull in the Heather.']  Yes, it’s the same."

Love that Sonic Youth song. Have drafted it. 

You're right, too. There aren't any real misses at this point.  

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I agree that the Rubber Soul songs are perhaps the toughest among their repertoire to rank. Pound for pound, it's IMO the most consistent of all their albums (although I could probably take or leave the earlier discussed "What Goes On").

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9 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

Any song that alternates John and Paul vocals is usually pretty solid.

Good point.  I should have mentioned that in my write-up.

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11 minutes ago, zamboni said:

 Pound for pound, it's IMO the most consistent of all their albums 

that's why i like vinyl. weighs more....

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10 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

that's why i like vinyl. weighs more....

I used to lift weights with my daddy's 78's.

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3 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

I used to lift weights with my daddy's 78's.

 I've got some records from World War II.  I play them just like me granddad do.

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21 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

I used to lift weights with my daddy's 78's.

you da cleanest jerk i know

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28 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

!

ETA: this is one of the songs we do when i sit in with my bff's weekend band. the lead guitarist - a 1st-class SG shredder - looooves the riff. i freestyle it like Master Hawk does but, for the chorus, i do:

i am the Cool

i am the Cool

I AAAAMM The Cool

But i could lose it with you....

*shred*

 

 

 

works pretty damn good

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Dammit.  "Wait" slipped by me, I listened to a lot of the Beatles catalog the last couple of weeks and I just missed this.  

Would have been top 50.  

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11 minutes ago, Binky The Doormat said:

Dammit.  "Wait" slipped by me, I listened to a lot of the Beatles catalog the last couple of weeks and I just missed this.  

Would have been top 50.  

:tfp:

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You guys might wish to steel yourselves for the next one.

I'm gonna eat some lunch and then get to it.

Look inside - #86 will shock and amaze you!

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4 minutes ago, krista4 said:

You guys might wish to steel yourselves for the next one.

I'm gonna eat some lunch and then get to it.

Look inside - #86 will shock and amaze you!

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you know i worked in gaming for 25 years and the number 86 has a special & violent meaning in that industry, don't you?

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86.  Penny Lane (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

:scared: 

From the beginning, I knew that this would be one of two absolutely beloved songs that I don't dig as much as other people do (little did I know The Fool on the Hill was a third), and that it would rank on my list much lower than it would be on any list of "best" Beatles songs.  Of course I love the song, or it wouldn't be this high, but it clearly doesn't connect with me the way it does for most other people.  The best explanation I have is that, as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, I mostly don't get nostalgia as a concept.  And if I look at this in comparison to the "nostalgia" of the other a-side of the same single, "Strawberry Fields Forever," I prefer the slight angst of the latter to the idyllic descriptions of this one.  It's sweet and lovely, but I must like the edgier parts of life.

There's a lot I love about this song, though.  It is perfectly polished and clean, and it lilts in a way that puts a smile on my face.  Love that piccolo trumpet.  If some of John's lyrics can read like poetry, I think this song shows that Paul can do the same; I especially love the opening line:  Penny Lane there is a barber showing photographs, of every head he's had the pleasure to know.  That's lovely imagery.  And I'm very taken with the rises and falls and especially the way the refrains rise back into the verses.  I even enjoy the modulation near the end, which is a device I'm not usually keen on.  There's nothing I would change about this song; as it is it's a perfect love letter to where they grew up.  Most days, though, there are just ~85 songs I'd rather listen to. 

I'm sure others here could do a better job of detailing what's great about the song.  So instead of saying, "top 10 for me!!!111" let us know what you love about it, too.  :) 

Mr. krista:  "You could take all the songs from the last four records and make a nifty musical, and I won’t give a #### about any of them."  [NOTE:  I don't remember what he was talking about here.]

Suggested cover:  Elvis Costello

 

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1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said:

you know i worked in gaming for 25 years and the number 86 has a special & violent meaning in that industry, don't you?

My #86 is definitely a violent song.  I mean there are fires and motorcars and guys getting soaked and kids laughing at people for no good reason.

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1 minute ago, Binky The Doormat said:

Penny Lane - #15 on the Binky's Beatles Hit List!!

I think I'm winning the reverse points contest.  

not remotely close.

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Very much enjoy Penny Lane but have never loved it.   The cover by Costello highlights what I like - it's a simple but fun song.  Light-hearted.   Seems innocent sounding. (even if very little they wrote was ever purely innocent)   Nostalgiac in a good way.  My son enjoys singing the harmony with me while my wife sings the melody.  We have fun with that.   

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4 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Very much enjoy Penny Lane but have never loved it.   The cover by Costello highlights what I like - it's a simple but fun song.  Light-hearted.   Seems innocent sounding. (even if very little they wrote was ever purely innocent)   Nostalgiac in a good way.  My son enjoys singing the harmony with me while my wife sings the melody.  We have fun with that.   

I love that cover.

Btw, “four of fish and finger pies” was contributed by John and definitely not innocent. ;) 

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Personally, I agree with it (the ranking). Now, for the write-up.  

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42 minutes ago, krista4 said:

86.  Penny Lane (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

:scared: 

From the beginning, I knew that this would be one of two absolutely beloved songs that I don't dig as much as other people do (little did I know The Fool on the Hill was a third), and that it would rank on my list much lower than it would be on any list of "best" Beatles songs.  Of course I love the song, or it wouldn't be this high, but it clearly doesn't connect with me the way it does for most other people.  The best explanation I have is that, as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, I mostly don't get nostalgia as a concept.  And if I look at this in comparison to the "nostalgia" of the other a-side of the same single, "Strawberry Fields Forever," I prefer the slight angst of the latter to the idyllic descriptions of this one.  It's sweet and lovely, but I must like the edgier parts of life.

There's a lot I love about this song, though.  It is perfectly polished and clean, and it lilts in a way that puts a smile on my face.  Love that piccolo trumpet.  If some of John's lyrics can read like poetry, I think this song shows that Paul can do the same; I especially love the opening line:  Penny Lane there is a barber showing photographs, of every head he's had the pleasure to know.  That's lovely imagery.  And I'm very taken with the rises and falls and especially the way the refrains rise back into the verses.  I even enjoy the modulation near the end, which is a device I'm not usually keen on.  There's nothing I would change about this song; as it is it's a perfect love letter to where they grew up.  Most days, though, there are just ~85 songs I'd rather listen to. 

I'm sure others here could do a better job of detailing what's great about the song.  So instead of saying, "top 10 for me!!!111" let us know what you love about it, too.  :) 

Mr. krista:  "You could take all the songs from the last four records and make a nifty musical, and I won’t give a #### about any of them."  [NOTE:  I don't remember what he was talking about here.]

Suggested cover:  Elvis Costello

 

I really thought we had something......

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53 minutes ago, krista4 said:

86.  Penny Lane (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

:scared: 

 

I've used this analogy around here before (tho i can't remember how) - the Strawberry/Penny single was the John the Baptist to Sgt. Jesus. Like em or not, the thing the Beatles were best at was changing the world. The two remarkable sides announced that something was coming that we weren't gonna be ready for and, dadblast it, they delivered. It's higher in my affections than yours (neither in my 25) on that account, but so what?

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

86.  Penny Lane (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

:scared: 

From the beginning, I knew that this would be one of two absolutely beloved songs that I don't dig as much as other people do (little did I know The Fool on the Hill was a third), and that it would rank on my list much lower than it would be on any list of "best" Beatles songs.  Of course I love the song, or it wouldn't be this high, but it clearly doesn't connect with me the way it does for most other people.  The best explanation I have is that, as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, I mostly don't get nostalgia as a concept.  And if I look at this in comparison to the "nostalgia" of the other a-side of the same single, "Strawberry Fields Forever," I prefer the slight angst of the latter to the idyllic descriptions of this one.  It's sweet and lovely, but I must like the edgier parts of life.

There's a lot I love about this song, though.  It is perfectly polished and clean, and it lilts in a way that puts a smile on my face.  Love that piccolo trumpet.  If some of John's lyrics can read like poetry, I think this song shows that Paul can do the same; I especially love the opening line:  Penny Lane there is a barber showing photographs, of every head he's had the pleasure to know.  That's lovely imagery.  And I'm very taken with the rises and falls and especially the way the refrains rise back into the verses.  I even enjoy the modulation near the end, which is a device I'm not usually keen on.  There's nothing I would change about this song; as it is it's a perfect love letter to where they grew up.  Most days, though, there are just ~85 songs I'd rather listen to. 

I'm sure others here could do a better job of detailing what's great about the song.  So instead of saying, "top 10 for me!!!111" let us know what you love about it, too.  :) 

Mr. krista:  "You could take all the songs from the last four records and make a nifty musical, and I won’t give a #### about any of them."  [NOTE:  I don't remember what he was talking about here.]

Suggested cover:  Elvis Costello

 

Bold strategy Cotton....

(I’m actually good with this placement)

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I'm glad to see others finally losing their minds  :lmao:  #stuckonthehill

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

86.  Penny Lane (single, 1967)

I can't believe you've done this

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21 minutes ago, ScottNorwood said:

I can't believe you've done this

I feel the same way.   More than 100 songs and 40 pages into the thread, and now she lets us know she’s just trolling us.  That’s a serious long game, IMO.

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