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I just mentioned that in another thread. We need....Big Brother....overlooking everything. If something like that happens and all the world sees it but the refs he can...HOLD IT. STOP. Then....that was a penalty now throw the flag and try and get out from being so damn blind....good luck.
It’s not even about pace for me anymore. I hate the fact that you can’t really react and celebrate right after a play anymore. You have to wait because on the twelfth replay, his toenail may have been out of bounds. Get off my lawn!
This, more than anything, is what has killed the love of football as anything other than a vehicle for fantasy games and sports betting.
No on the "All to be reviewed" .. But there shouldn't be a limit on what can and what cannot be challenged. Judgement calls are judgement calls and if it is to close to call, much like catch/no catch, then the call stands..
Here’s your problem.
Starting to believe that the game should largely be officiated from the booth anyway. Cameras give better and multiple angles, and can slow down the bang-bang plays when helpful to do so. On-field refs can take care of spotting the ball and a couple of other tasks (false starts, maybe holding?) ... otherwise, the booth refs would be both the first and the final word.
the issue is that tv is too good so everyone at home can see exactly what happened almost right away. i'm sure there were plenty of calls missed decades ago, but nobody knew because the video quality and camera angles weren't as good.
I believe the rules make it harder to ref a game. Just look at the 70's and 80's. You could punish the QB. Now the ref has to make judgments calls on simple hits to the QB. We also now have 'hitting a defenseless receiver' and other safety rules. All this makes it harder to make calls than it was decades ago. It's got to be hard to 'train' refs on judgment calls., especially when the game moves so fast. Maybe they need to be able to admit when they get calls wrong more and pick up the flags. They all ref scared for their jobs and now that one actually got fired, it makes it worse. The refs simply did not want to make that call against the Rams at that point in the game.
Football should be a better candidate for exactly that reason. Viewers would get accustomed to an extra 5-10 seconds between some plays, especially being that there won't be reviews between every play.
Yep. The league needs to get off this farce that they think is fooling everyone into thinking that their refs are great at the job. It's a tough job now. Admit it and make the changes necessary to over rule mistakes. Quit trying to act like the call is correct every time and start overturning bad calls.
True, but then a 3 hour game turns into 4 or worse. Plus the sheer volume of infractions that can take place on a play are ridiculous. For instance, on any single play, depending on the ref watching, there is at least one penalty, guaranteed.
Agree here.
Orton to Olsen nails it in the OP: "We have the technology, we have the capability, we have the money"
True, especially holding.
I tend to agree but then on non calls...it’s subjective as to whether it warrants a call.
Every play has penalties if you go by the rules. Defender cannot initiate contact after 5 yards? That rule is broken every pass play in every game every week.....except against NE where teams just let Edelman run wide open on 3rd & 10 over & over again.
Man, I want to punch these DCs right in the head.
No doubt about it. The obvious stuff will be caught, though.
They already huddle up to try to get the call right on the field with the officials. Add an eye in the sky to the huddle at least.
PI and Roughing the passer would be the most obvious situations to have an extra set of eyes since they are awarded the most yards.
Yeah, I hoped that replay would mean the refs would be more focused and impressive on getting judgment calls right but it really hasn't gone that way.
It's funny because it was being done to someone who had done it, in a thread totally unrelated to it.It’s not funny when you’re the 15th person to do it.
I think lod001 and Orton to Olsen are on to something -- the refs, as human beings, just can't get the judgment calls right even when they are obvious.
It's more likely to push me away from caring about football than it is to make me want to have everything reviewed.
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I don't think we're there yet. Where we're at is being able to give live human refs much better views of the action than what can be seen on the field. That improves the game calls.
I'll still watch, but it's been a steady push away from caring. And it could push me to just not watch.
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That first one is brutal but the Kamara hit is simply a judgement call. They didn't exist decades ago. Maybe they need more refs per game because of it. There is more potential for penalties now than decades ago. I mean who watches the QB? You now need eyes on him because of the rules. Isa it the same guy that has to watch for holding calls? Nobody is gonna get that right all the time. Game moves too fast.
