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WR/TE JJ Arcega-Whiteside, SEA (1 Viewer)
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GoBirds
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Skeletore Eh
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skinfanjon
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Well this thread has jumped the shark. He isn't anywhere near Boldin. Almost no one is.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
he isn't near Parker either. This is quickly going down the road of an Alex Collins thread. Debate for the next 18 months until he gets a shot. If you dont like him, its noted, move on. If you think he is a future stud, noted, move on.
I'm more interested in news and updates
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Fireinside
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Got him in one league. Not a huge fan of the guy, but not a huge fan Eagles receivers in general. If he's good enough, he will shine, if not, I'm not that worried.
He ain't Boldin, he ain't Parker, both seem like a weird comparsons to me. Not sure, but he reminds me more of Jimmy Graham and dont think that is fair comparson either. Let's just give this kid a chance and see how it goes...
He ain't Boldin, he ain't Parker, both seem like a weird comparsons to me. Not sure, but he reminds me more of Jimmy Graham and dont think that is fair comparson either. Let's just give this kid a chance and see how it goes...
Snorkelson
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I think Sutton is a good comp, or the guy I always compared him to, musin muhammud
grateful zed
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if i draft him, it will be for 2020.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Flying Elvis
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Drafted with 2020 in mind. Now working on adding Alshon for 2019. Older, oft banged up WR that shouldn't be outrageously expensive and hedges your bet nicely. Could be a coup if Alshon does become a cap casualty and you end up Alshon as a potential WR1 elsewhere in 2020 and JJAW ready to step up in that Iggles offense.
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Obligatory addendum: There have been 63 WRs drafted in the 2nd round in the past 15 years, and barely a third of them (24) put up 2,000 receiving yards in their first 4 years. A whopping 15 of them have averaged 10+ PPR fantasy points per game, pretty much what's needed to rise above the level of WW fodder.
By those standards, most draft picks outside the 1st round turn out to be "bums". But you've got to spend them on someone regardless.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Agreed, it takes a lot of things going right for guys to stick and become productive players in the league, much less fantasy relevant stars. My comment would be right most of the time about any players lol. Still, a lot of folks around here think he's something special, so more taking aim at that.
Still, thanks for the numbers.
Faust
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grateful zed
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sitting at 14, planning on taking him. most sources have him being there.
kutta
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Somehow he fell to me all the way at 2.12. I was ecstatic to get him there.
It’s good to hear the good reports from camp - lots of mouths to feed there but hoping him and Carson can grow together.
Gandalf
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Flying Elvis
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With Wentz getting his extension it now seems very unlikely Alshon stays on the roster next season. If I'm reading it right, overthecap.com shows 2020 as: Team Cap Space: $1,016,030 and Alshon has less than 3M in dead money and a cap savings of 13M. JJAW looks like the "plan-ahead" replacement that good football teams draft a year or two in advance so they can have a fairly seamless transition when needed.
The good camp noise is exciting but I'm still expecting a crap-shoot, boom/bust style rookie year with TD dependency for his rookie year. 2020 looks really promising, though.
The good camp noise is exciting but I'm still expecting a crap-shoot, boom/bust style rookie year with TD dependency for his rookie year. 2020 looks really promising, though.
barackdhouse
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Over under on how many games Jeffery plays this year. Imma set it at 12.5.
jm192
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That's the truth. I think Jeffery is a legit WR2, maybe as high as low end WR1 if he and Wentz can both give you 16 games. Unfortunately, in 7 years, he's played 16 games 3 times. He's missed 20 games in 7 seasons, so just under 3 a year. Projecting him to play 13 games is pretty fair.
If he moves on in the off-season, sign me up for JJAW
Faust
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I will temper my expectations for production from JJAW in his rookie season, and recognize that with the number of targets that will be distributed to Alshon Jeffery, DeSean Jackson, Zach Ertz, Dallas Goedert, etc. that there won’t be a lot of targets left over.
I do think that with the news that he’s looked like an NFL player with his contested catch and red-zone skills that he’s a promising dynasty asset. I also liked that he showed some ability to juke Jeremiah McKinnon on his route running as that helps to alleviate some of my concerns about JJAW from his 3-cone and short shuttle times.
Edit: I just looked McKinnon up and he was an UDFA with poor overall athletic testing. He has bounced around a few NFL teams over the last few years including being released from the Browns last season so that they could promote running back Dontrell Hilliard to the 53-man roster. JJAW should be beating this type of player in practice.
I do think that with the news that he’s looked like an NFL player with his contested catch and red-zone skills that he’s a promising dynasty asset. I also liked that he showed some ability to juke Jeremiah McKinnon on his route running as that helps to alleviate some of my concerns about JJAW from his 3-cone and short shuttle times.
Edit: I just looked McKinnon up and he was an UDFA with poor overall athletic testing. He has bounced around a few NFL teams over the last few years including being released from the Browns last season so that they could promote running back Dontrell Hilliard to the 53-man roster. JJAW should be beating this type of player in practice.
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barackdhouse
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Agreed. But I think JJAW could grow into a flex worthy role his rookie year in games that are missed by any of those guys. Especially Jeffery.
grateful zed
Footballguy
with JJAW, at pick 2019 #10-20 ,you are basically getting:
2020 1st round WR pick, with a year of nfl under his belt and close to 100 guaranteed targets.
perfect for a rebuilding team, or an aging WR team that needs youth..
2020 1st round WR pick, with a year of nfl under his belt and close to 100 guaranteed targets.
perfect for a rebuilding team, or an aging WR team that needs youth..
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JetMaxx
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barackdhouse
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Fireinside
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kittenmittens
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Chances seem pretty high that Jeffery or Jackson will miss some time at some point this year. Cega seems ready to jump on the opportunity when it comes.
Interseptopus
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Faust
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grateful zed
Footballguy
shhh
Interseptopus
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SOTD.
Was my WR2 and Overall #3 rookie in this class. only behind Harry for wrs. However, today I would not trade JJAW for Harry straight up. Today JJAW would be my #1 overall rookie
Hes the real deal. Like a ightly slower Metcalf without the steroids and injuries. Like Harry but without the difficulty with the learning curve. If you have him, you should hide your woman and count your blessings. If you dont, you should try before it's too late.
Was my WR2 and Overall #3 rookie in this class. only behind Harry for wrs. However, today I would not trade JJAW for Harry straight up. Today JJAW would be my #1 overall rookie
Hes the real deal. Like a ightly slower Metcalf without the steroids and injuries. Like Harry but without the difficulty with the learning curve. If you have him, you should hide your woman and count your blessings. If you dont, you should try before it's too late.
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zamboni
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Like the talent, just a tough situation to crack with a lot of proven talent ahead of him.
