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15 minutes ago, The General said:

It's against the law in Seattle I learned. Actually against the law to put anything in anyone's trash unless it is on city property up here. CIVILIZED!

Where are your trashcans? Driveway or street?  Is owning the street in front of your house one of those hippie Seattle things?

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2 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

The sidewalk is public property too, but you don’t get to just drop your trash there. 

The sidewalk doesn't fall into the same category of public property, it cannot be taken or scavenged.

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Just now, tonydead said:

The sidewalk doesn't fall into the same category of public property, it cannot be taken or scavenged.

Kind of like you can’t take my garbage can because it’s theft?

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3 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

Kind of like you can’t take my garbage can because it’s theft?

Kind of like it seems to be public property for a period of time.  I and I guess that distinction is because it's not garbage, it just contains the garbage.    But, the court ruled that the public can access (use) the can to scavenge things from it, just like the police did in California v. Greenwald.  So if it's available for public use, and the public can take garbage from it what says the public can't add garbage to it?

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the Court believed it to be “common knowledge” that garbage at the side of the street is “readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public.”

 

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5 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Kind of like it seems to be public property for a period of time.  I and I guess that distinction is because it's not garbage, it just contains the garbage.    But, the court ruled that the public can access (use) the can to scavenge things from it, just like the police did in California v. Greenwald.  So if it's available for public use, and the public can take garbage from it what says the public can't add garbage to it?

 

Almost every municipality has a law against dumping trash in other people’s trash cans or dumpsters. 

Edit: many also now have anti-scavenging laws. 

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52 minutes ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Unless your dog walks are 5 hours a piece, you may want to get that dog looked at, gb.

Usually 45 mins or so.  He's a nervous pooper.  He seems to force the second one, and it is always one of those nasty, runny, messy ones.  

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31 minutes ago, Chaka said:

Where are your trashcans? Driveway or street?  Is owning the street in front of your house one of those hippie Seattle things?

We have these grass median things that fall between the street and the sidewalk where the trash cans end up going. Those are up to the owner to maintain and are their property.

This was a hotly contested point of legal issue in the NextDoor conversation :lol:

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1 minute ago, Henry Ford said:

Almost every municipality has a law against dumping trash in other people’s trash cans or dumpsters. 

Edit: many also now have anti-scavenging laws. 

Almost ?  Seems the OP should just consult his municipality then.

Wouldn't the federal government win in cases of conflicting legislation for scavenging?    

 

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1 minute ago, The General said:

We have these grass median things that fall between the street and the sidewalk where the trash cans end up going. Those are up to the owner to maintain and are their property.

This was a hotly contested point of legal issue in the NextDoor conversation :lol:

Are you sure?  A  lot of places they are property of the city and often on top of where the utilities run.

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1 minute ago, tonydead said:

Almost ?  Seems the OP should just consult his municipality then.

Wouldn't the federal government win in cases of conflicting legislation for scavenging?   

Already done.

Poop guy in a bin that is not your own is an outlaw on top of being a savage.

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1 minute ago, The General said:

Already done.

Poop guy in a bin that is not your own is an outlaw on top of being a savage.

Then why the tread posty?

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2 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Then why the tread posty?

I'm not calling the cops. Someone could get shot.

Although I wouldn't mind seeing these people tazed.

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6 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Almost ?  Seems the OP should just consult his municipality then.

Wouldn't the federal government win in cases of conflicting legislation for scavenging?    

 

Not likely. Taking stuff out of people’s trash doesn’t really implicate a federal power.  

I guess conceivably interstate commerce if your state trucks garbage to New Jersey, but even then it would really only affect it on the truck. 

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6 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Are you sure?  A  lot of places they are property of the city and often on top of where the utilities run.

They’re usually subject to a servitude but owned by the landowner. 

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I don't think it would have ever occurred to me to put it in a neighbor's can (tee-hee). Not a huge deal, I guess, but I'd say it's mildly inconsiderate. Yes, in all likelihood, the trash will be collected without them ever noticing. But what if they run out a last minute bag only to see that somebody dropped their dog's steamer on top? Unlikely, but to me, not worth risking it.

It's my dog. I'll take the poop home (like I presumably do the other 6 days a week). I say presumably because I have a fenced in yard precisely so I don't have to carry dog crap around anymore.

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8 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

They’re usually subject to a servitude but owned by the landowner. 

Here you go with "usually" and "almost".   I know of many paces where it's owned by the city.

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Good thing people are referring to the local penal code before they dump a steam turd in their unsuspecting neighbor's empty trash bin.

Or you could carry it back home with you.

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16 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Here you go with "usually" and "almost".   I know of many paces where it's owned by the city.

Local laws are different depending on locale. That’s why I say usually and almost. 

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33 minutes ago, pollardsvision said:

I don't think it would have ever occurred to me to put it in a neighbor's can (tee-hee). Not a huge deal, I guess, but I'd say it's mildly inconsiderate. Yes, in all likelihood, the trash will be collected without them ever noticing. But what if they run out a last minute bag only to see that somebody dropped their dog's steamer on top? Unlikely, but to me, not worth risking it.

It's my dog. I'll take the poop home (like I presumably do the other 6 days a week). I say presumably because I have a fenced in yard precisely so I don't have to carry dog crap around anymore.

Good people here.

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I let my dog do her business in my own yard, then fling it over into my neighbors yard.

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1 hour ago, The General said:

Let it be known the pro-poop people are bringing the law into this.

Poor form.

I think it was @Henry Ford who brought the law into it and he's an anti-poop guy.

I brought the Law & Order in and crushed it, surprised you're even debating it at this point.

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52 minutes ago, The General said:

Good thing people are referring to the local penal code before they dump a steam turd in their unsuspecting neighbor's empty trash bin.

Or you could carry it back home with you.

Huh huh, you said "penal".

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5 minutes ago, Chaka said:

I think it was @Henry Ford who brought the law into it and he's an anti-poop guy.

I brought the Law & Order in and crushed it, surprised you're even debating it at this point.

CSI had an episode on this. Poop guy was clearly wrong on every level.

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3 hours ago, Henry Ford said:

Local laws are different depending on locale. That’s why I say usually and almost. 

And I said he should check because it’s not always. 

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10 minutes ago, tonydead said:

And I said he should check because it’s not always. 

Maybe if people did the right thing more often we wouldn't need so many laws babysitting us :mindblown:

(it is against the law in my hood BTW)

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Have not perused the entire thread, but I have a question that maybe no one has asked yet.  Would you drop a bag of poop in a neighborhood trash can if the home owner (assume you don't know the person well) was standing 10 feet away from his or her trash can, or would you delay the drop for a more discrete opportunity?  I think we all know the answer to this question.

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3 hours ago, Mister CIA said:

Have not perused the entire thread, but I have a question that maybe no one has asked yet.  Would you drop a bag of poop in a neighborhood trash can if the home owner (assume you don't know the person well) was standing 10 feet away from his or her trash can, or would you delay the drop for a more discrete opportunity?  I think we all know the answer to this question.

lock eyes and establish dominance while you do it.  

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2 hours ago, Binky The Doormat said:

lock eyes and establish dominance while you do it.  

It should be the dog locking eyes and establishing dominance. "Look here, Champ, I just dropped a log right over there, then this cuck here immediately scooped it up, preserved it in a plastic bag, and is now depositing it in your can. Who's the ##### now?"

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10 hours ago, Mister CIA said:

Have not perused the entire thread, but I have a question that maybe no one has asked yet.  Would you drop a bag of poop in a neighborhood trash can if the home owner (assume you don't know the person well) was standing 10 feet away from his or her trash can, or would you delay the drop for a more discrete opportunity?  I think we all know the answer to this question.

Would probably ask nicely.  If told no, then put it in the neighbors.

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I try to be a responsible dog owner. When I walk my dog, I keep a bright orange newspaper bag prominently tied to my dog's leash so people know that I don't leave anything behind. One day, my dog stopped to do his business and the property owner was watching out his window. Like usual, I picked it up immediately and went on my way. The next day, this guy had put out a little sign, I mean like 4x6 inches, in the exact spot where my dog had made his deposit saying "Please don't permit your dog to poop or pee on my lawn."

My dog immediately sniffed and then peed on the sign.

 

 

 

I didn't stop him. :whistle:

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14 hours ago, The General said:

Maybe if people did the right thing more often we wouldn't need so many laws babysitting us :mindblown:

(it is against the law in my hood BTW)

Maybe if people weren't so darn uptight about life's  minutiae heart disease would not be the #1 cause of death in America.

The only thing you truly control in life is your response. Choose to live stress free.

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1 hour ago, James Bond said:

I try to be a responsible dog owner. When I walk my dog, I keep a bright orange newspaper bag prominently tied to my dog's leash so people know that I don't leave anything behind. One day, my dog stopped to do his business and the property owner was watching out his window. Like usual, I picked it up immediately and went on my way. The next day, this guy had put out a little sign, I mean like 4x6 inches, in the exact spot where my dog had made his deposit saying "Please don't permit your dog to poop or pee on my lawn."

My dog immediately sniffed and then peed on the sign.

 

 

 

I didn't stop him. :whistle:

A guy 3 houses down has two signs out. One on his front grass and also the curbside area. My dog always ends up pissing at this point on our walk.  

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16 minutes ago, Chaka said:

Maybe if people weren't so darn uptight about life's  minutiae heart disease would not be the #1 cause of death in America.

The only thing you truly control in life is your response. Choose to live stress free.

Hard to be zen when I'm cleaning dog #### out of my can in the middle of winter because someone can't be bothered to carry it a few blocks. But I see your point.

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1 minute ago, The General said:

Hard to be zen when I'm cleaning dog #### out of my can in the middle of winter because someone can't be bothered to carry it a few blocks. But I see your point.

I think you have hit on the #1 argument in favor of having children.

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