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Whole Body Cryotherapy (1 Viewer)

Galileo

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Who does this sort of thing???  

Our high school's sports booster's reverse raffle is tonight, and I was looking over the silent auction items that will be available to see if there is anything that captures my interest.  One of the items available is for 3 sessions of whole body cryotherapy.  The brief description provided says "Each session is 3 minutes at -256 degrees F" .  Holy hell!  Why???   3 minutes is not long, but surely the risk of frostbite, cold burns, lung damage, etc... must be a real risk when doing this nonsense.   I looked briefly at a couple websites and see the usual snake oil type sales pitches that it is good for treating just about anything.  Has anybody ever tried it?  Why did you do it, and did you die?

 
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Who does this sort of thing???  

Our high school's sports booster's reverse raffle is tonight, and I was looking over the silent auction items that will be available to see if there is anything that captures my interest.  One of the items available is for 3 sessions of whole body cryotherapy.  The brief description provided says "Each session is 3 minutes at -256 degrees F" .  Holy hell!  Why???   3 minutes is not long, but surely the risk of frostbite, cold burns, lung damage, etc... must be a real risk when doing this nonsense.  I've put stuff into liquid nitrogen before   I looked briefly at a couple websites and see the usual snake oil type sales pitches that it is good for treating just about anything.  Has anybody ever tried it?  Why did you do it, and did you die?
It's amazing and helps with inflammation.  It supposedly helps with weight loss if you do it consistently 

 
Just 2x.   It's crazy the first time not knowing what to expect but you feel amazing afterwards.  I got the treatments as a gift but they don't have a place near where I live.   If you workout a lot and your body is sore then this feels amazing.   

Another good good treatment is at a lot of spas they have the really hot tub and an ice bath next to it.  Just alternate between the two 

 
Just 2x.   It's crazy the first time not knowing what to expect but you feel amazing afterwards.  I got the treatments as a gift but they don't have a place near where I live.   If you workout a lot and your body is sore then this feels amazing.   
Well, if it feels good, I guess that is reason enough for people to do it.  I am not buying into any of those medicinal claims, though.

I don't suppose there are any happy endings after this spa treatment...too much shrinkage!

 
for me I had heard about it and I was/am perpetually sore so I was given a couple of treatments at a practice in Raleigh.  It was weird at first going in but coming out your body just feels totally renewed.  The second time a week or so later I was in longer and your body just feels fresh and energized.  Its tough to explain.  My shoulder didnt hurt for awhile after the treatments and I feel that if I continued to go all of my aches would subside.  I have done ice baths before but this is a entirely different ballgame.

 
i'd like to try it.  i wish my gym had a cold tub.  when i ski, i jump in the snow, after the hot tub.  feels great  

 
THere’s no way it’s actually that cold. 

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Well, the auction item description says -256F.  The company's website claims between -200F and -250F.  That's a pretty big range of possibility, but it is all damn cold.  Snow is probably a little below water's freezing point of 32 F depending on the air temperature.  So this is somewhere between 230-280 degrees colder based on these claims.  Many of these systems apparently use a liquid nitrogen cooling system.  Liquid nitrogen is around -330 F.

 
You're inside a chamber that's -256 degrees or whatever, but you don't actually touch the sides of it, right? If you actually physically touch the sides of the tank you could damage yourself. But you're just touching super-chilled air I think. This is super coincidental because I just saw this place on my drive home two days ago. Cryo therapy. I could totally see it working just like an ice bath. But an ice bath is painful AF. Can't remember which sports documentary in which I saw them using these.

I got the treatments as a gift but they don't have a place near where I live. If you workout a lot and your body is sore then this feels amazing.
Who gave you the gift? What type of gift was it. And how far did you have to drive to cash it in? After doing it, how much would you personally pay for therapy like this if they had one closer you? It's got to be like a subscription deal so they get you coming back. Do you work out a lot? Did you ever do ice baths after sporting events and stuff.

 
Man I thought tanning on a cold winter day felt bad ###. I bet cryo therapy on a 100 degree day would be dope AF. I want to see my body's response after a tanning session, cardio/weight training session, swimming, sauna, and a cryo therapy treatment would be. All in one day. In that order. And a massage. And then sex that night. Hot sex. All seven of those things in one day.

 
In case anyone cares joe rogan swears by it.  
He wants to be a scientist so bad. Give him credit though, he's definitely open minded. He's super into testosterone replacement therapy too though. I bet after a cryo session he comes out of that thing with zero balls.

 
Lot of NFL players do it

Eta:  I think some facilities have them to act as a "cold tub"

 
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You're inside a chamber that's -256 degrees or whatever, but you don't actually touch the sides of it, right? If you actually physically touch the sides of the tank you could damage yourself. But you're just touching super-chilled air I think.
Basically.  And the air is described as being very dry.  They claim your skin/outer tissue drops about 25 degrees in the three minute exposure.

 
I tried the full chamber once and the spot therapy once for my lower back/sciatica. I didn’t notice ANY benefits. I went three minutes in the full body chamber, which was pretty tough. I was ready to be done about 2 1/2 minutes earlier.

 
fwiw

Cryotherapy versus ice baths—it's a draw

by University of Applied Sciences and Arts of Southern Switzerland

Credit: University of Applied Sciences and Arts of Southern Switzerland

The first study to compare the effect of cold water immersion versus extreme cold air has found very little difference between the two treatments on athletes' muscle recovery.

Cold water immersion has become popular among sportsmen and women to cool strained muscles in order to recover faster, compete again sooner and to train harder.

Treatment in cold water immersion was compared to treatment in extremely cold air(below -100°C), a relatively new method of speeding up recovery and regarded by some elite athletes and coaches as a step forward, a superior treatment.

Cold air exposure typically lasts for three minutes in a specialised cold air chamber, an ice bath typically lasts for 10 minutes.

Until now, there has been limited research directly comparing the two treatments.

This new study, led by Dr Erich Hohenauer at the University of Applied Sciences and Arts of Southern Switzerland, found both cold water immersion and the partial-body cryotherapy treatments resulted in similar recovery during a 72-hour follow-up period.

The research is published the Scandinavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports.

Leading expert on cryotherapy, Dr Joe Costello, of the University of Portsmouth, is one of the study's authors.

He said: "The use of cryotherapy is very popular in elite sport. For example, various premier league teams currently use the treatment. However, we know very little about the effectiveness of the treatment; in particular we do not know if the cryotherapy is more, or less, effective than ice baths.

"Our results clearly demonstrate that, in terms of athletic recovery, there are no differences between cold water immersion and the partial-body cryotherapy."

Dr Hohenauer said questions over the value of such treatments came first from elite sport but increasingly sportsmen and women at all levels were interested in ways of recovering faster and performing better.

He said: "Cold water immersion is well established in sport science as a way of speeding up recovery. Cryotherapy is relatively new and science is only now catching up in order to examine whether it works, and how.

"It's conceivable that cryotherapy might one day replace cold water immersionhowever, more research is needed to establish the optimal cooling dose."

In the study of 19 men there was a significant physiological difference – including oxygen levels in thigh muscles and skin temperature – between the two treatments in the immediate term. But within hours there was no difference in how the men felt and no measurable physiological benefit of one treatment over the other.

In previous research for the Cochrane review, Dr Costello found only some evidence to support the use of whole-body cryotherapy as a recovery method.

Athletes, including footballers and rugby players, and those competing in tournaments over one or two weeks, rely heavily on sports scientists helping them recover quickly before their next bout.

Dr Costello said: "These findings might also help inform coaches when making decisions about which recovery method to use for their athletes.

 
Beef Ravioli said:
I tried the full chamber once and the spot therapy once for my lower back/sciatica. I didn’t notice ANY benefits.
Who recommended it for that treatment? Seems like a weird remedy. I busted my lumbar like two and a half years ago going crazy on squats and deadlifts. I am just now feeling back to 90-95% after doing physical therapy on myself basically on a daily basis ever since. My doc chastised me for not letting him recommend the surgery but I chose physical therapy instead. He basically made me feel like an idiot, but he's a really cool dude - and he and I are cool now - but I feel like I kinda got one over on him for healing up/scarring over and increasing my strength on my own. That's over two years of daily work (just like 15 minutes a day) but still. How is your back now and how did you hurt it. And what else have you done besides cryo therapy.

 
Galileo said:
They claim your skin/outer tissue drops about 25 degrees in the three minute exposure.
What's your opinion about how "extreme" that is? I don't know much about ice baths, other than hearing dudes b**ch about how much they hurt after practice. This just sounds like a less-painful ice bath. With a higher price tag and luxurious stigma, apparently. I wonder what's the comparible ∆T of that same tissue when you immerse it into iced water instead..

 
Who recommended it for that treatment? Seems like a weird remedy. I busted my lumbar like two and a half years ago going crazy on squats and deadlifts. I am just now feeling back to 90-95% after doing physical therapy on myself basically on a daily basis ever since. My doc chastised me for not letting him recommend the surgery but I chose physical therapy instead. He basically made me feel like an idiot, but he's a really cool dude - and he and I are cool now - but I feel like I kinda got one over on him for healing up/scarring over and increasing my strength on my own. That's over two years of daily work (just like 15 minutes a day) but still. How is your back now and how did you hurt it. And what else have you done besides cryo therapy.
My wife saw a Groupon for this cryotherapy thing, asked me if I heard of it. She suggested it might help with my back/sciatica. I did a little google research and it was suggested by some as an aid to help with sciatica. Like I said, I didn’t notice anything immediately and didn’t go long term to see if anything happened.

How did I hurt my back? I got old and a fat belly. My back is not really that bad, especially compared to a lot of other people. I have lower back stiffness/tightness that really bothers my hips and wraps around to the front of my legs and the whole groin area. I’ve tried chiropractor and massage but it’s difficult to massage in the region of my pain. Years ago, I had a chiropractor use ultrasound and that actually seemed to loosen things up. When I have suggested it to other chiro’s, they seem to think it would not help.

 
Who does this sort of thing???  

Our high school's sports booster's reverse raffle is tonight, and I was looking over the silent auction items that will be available to see if there is anything that captures my interest.  One of the items available is for 3 sessions of whole body cryotherapy.  The brief description provided says "Each session is 3 minutes at -256 degrees F" .  Holy hell!  Why???   3 minutes is not long, but surely the risk of frostbite, cold burns, lung damage, etc... must be a real risk when doing this nonsense.   I looked briefly at a couple websites and see the usual snake oil type sales pitches that it is good for treating just about anything.  Has anybody ever tried it?  Why did you do it, and did you die?
I'm pretty sure Antonio Brown does it the wrong way.

 
Who does this sort of thing???  

Our high school's sports booster's reverse raffle is tonight, and I was looking over the silent auction items that will be available to see if there is anything that captures my interest.  One of the items available is for 3 sessions of whole body cryotherapy.  The brief description provided says "Each session is 3 minutes at -256 degrees F" .  Holy hell!  Why???   3 minutes is not long, but surely the risk of frostbite, cold burns, lung damage, etc... must be a real risk when doing this nonsense.   I looked briefly at a couple websites and see the usual snake oil type sales pitches that it is good for treating just about anything.  Has anybody ever tried it?  Why did you do it, and did you die?
:lmao:

I'd love to do this - I mentioned in the thread about how old we feel but I always seem to have some type of nagging injury.  Almost always somewhat associated with inflammation.

 
My friend got us s Groupon to try it when we were on a try new things kick. It was cold but felt good. We wore socks on our feet and hands and used our sock covered hands to cover our nips. Our heads stuck up out of the tube. I only did it once. Did feel cool the rest of the day but didn’t loose weight or heal anything. 

 
so, wait a second. you can fall in to a lake that's like 45 degrees and be dead in minutes but can hang out in -250 degrees for 3, 4 minutes and just stroll on out? that's the jist of this?

a girl i know does this cryotherapy stuff and posts it to facebook (or used to, it's been a while) but i never heard anything about it being hyper cold like this

 
My friend got us s Groupon to try it when we were on a try new things kick. It was cold but felt good. We wore socks on our feet and hands and used our sock covered hands to cover our nips. Our heads stuck up out of the tube. I only did it once. Did feel cool the rest of the day but didn’t loose weight or heal anything. 
I would have socked the Dong too.  Tube sock cuz I’m a footballguy of course. 

 
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so, wait a second. you can fall in to a lake that's like 45 degrees and be dead in minutes but can hang out in -250 degrees for 3, 4 minutes and just stroll on out? that's the jist of this?
From the reading I’ve done on cryotherapy, it’s clearly not -250 F or anything like that. It’s probably 200 or 250 degrees Kelvin, which would still be a lot colder than a typical ice bath, but a realistic air temperature to withstand for a few minutes.

 

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