timschochet
Footballguy
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/politics/red-sox-white-house-cora-trump/index.html
However we got here, this looks really ugly.
However we got here, this looks really ugly.
Seriously, can anyone blame them for opting out after Trump's arguably racist statements about minorities and people of color? Attending and having your picture taken with him is a tacit approval of him and/or his policies (rightfully or wrongfully it would be viewed that way).Hey, maybe it's just terrible optics for the black and hispanic players.
No, attending is showing respect for the office of the Presidency. That doesn’t mean you support the President.Seriously, can anyone blame them for opting out after Trump's arguably racist statements about minorities and people of color? Attending and having your picture taken with him is a tacit approval of him and/or his policies (rightfully or wrongfully it would be viewed that way).
I agreed with this argument when it came to the Presidential Medal of Freedom, but I don't agree with you here. I draw a distinction between the two: here there is no formal award.No, attending is showing respect for the office of the Presidency. That doesn’t mean you support the President.
When the POTUS himself makes a mockery of the office it is extremely difficult to respect it.No, attending is showing respect for the office of the Presidency. That doesn’t mean you support the President.
Simple solution, then: Let the players all congregate in the Oval Office with Melania when the President is out of town. They can show respect for the office without it being interpreted as support for him.No, attending is showing respect for the office of the Presidency. That doesn’t mean you support the President.
Ain't that the truth.When the POTUS himself makes a mockery of the office it is extremely difficult to respect it.
Then be the better person and show respect. Two wrongs don’t make a right.When the POTUS himself makes a mockery of the office it is extremely difficult to respect it.
I am a better person than Trump. I don’t need to go to the WH and pretend to respect him to prove it.Then be the better person and show respect. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Also it’s respectful to politely decline if you don’t want to go with a certain person in office. That is respecting the office.When the POTUS himself makes a mockery of the office it is extremely difficult to respect it.
I never said respecting him. Go back and read what I wrote Mr. Teacher.I am a better person than Trump. I don’t need to go to the WH and pretend to respect him to prove it.
So if I was invited to the WH as part of a large group and Trump came up to shake my hand what should my reaction be?I never said respecting him. Go back and read what I wrote Mr. Teacher.
Whatever you feel is best. You went there to respect the office. If you refuse to shake his hand that’s up to you.So if I was invited to the WH as part of a large group and Trump came up to shake my hand what should my reaction be?
Cool. I’d show up, scarf down a bunch of food and then dip. “Thanks for the McNuggets, Donnie. Smell ya later.”Whatever you feel is best. You went there to respect the office. If you refuse to shake his hand that’s up to you.
Good for you, that doesn’t surprise me. Maybe bring a bag so you can carry out some of that delicious food. Try not and double dip though...that’s not classy.Cool. I’d show up, scarf down a bunch of food and then dip. “Thanks for the McNuggets, Donnie. Smell ya later.”
I didn't write that, and I don't believe it. I'm pretty sure the players get along fine.You're right..the Red Sox look like a team with no team unity whatsoever. No wonder they are playing .500 ball and looking very poor this year.
How on earth could you be "pretty sure the players get along fine" Whatever you wrote after that I am not reading. Seriously...I didn't write that, and I don't believe it. I'm pretty sure the players get along fine.
But I do think there is a bigger issue here involving the white players, and white people in general in this country: there are millions of white people in America who know Donald Trump is a bigot, don't agree with him, but don't care enough about the issue to make a big deal about it. I suspect that many of the white players on the team fall into this category. I suspect many white Republicans in general fall into this category. It's disturbing to me. They should care, IMO.
Your broad brush generalizations get worse each day.I didn't write that, and I don't believe it. I'm pretty sure the players get along fine.
But I do think there is a bigger issue here involving the white players, and white people in general in this country: there are millions of white people in America who know Donald Trump is a bigot, don't agree with him, but don't care enough about the issue to make a big deal about it. I suspect that many of the white players on the team fall into this category. I suspect many white Republicans in general fall into this category. It's disturbing to me. They should care, IMO.
Careful..Tim knows EVERYTHING....Just ask himYour broad brush generalizations get worse each day.
I heard an inside reporter from ESPN say it this morning. That's where I got it from. I don't follow the Red Sox closely but I don't see why ESPN would lie about it.How on earth could you be "pretty sure the players get along fine" Whatever you wrote after that I am not reading. Seriously...
You think this is a bad assumption? In what way am I incorrect? You're not suggesting they agree with Trump's bigoted views, are you?Your broad brush generalizations get worse each day.
But what if you had a cult following who told you it was all the students being biased against you?Just noodling here but...
If I found out that a large number of non-white students (and/or their parents) at my school didn’t want to be in my class I’d have to take a long, hard look at myself. And I probably wouldn’t start complaining about how they “don’t respect teachers”.
If I were on the team I would be very upset that the rest of team decided to make a political statement by refusing to go. Most Americans should view the players and managers who don't go in a poorer light, I certainly do.I didn't write that, and I don't believe it. I'm pretty sure the players get along fine.
But I do think there is a bigger issue here involving the white players, and white people in general in this country: there are millions of white people in America who know Donald Trump is a bigot, don't agree with him, but don't care enough about the issue to make a big deal about it. I suspect that many of the white players on the team fall into this category. I suspect many white Republicans in general fall into this category. It's disturbing to me. They should care, IMO.
And his base of "enthusiast" will blame the players rather than lay the blame at the feet of where it belongs. This has happened to no other president, but of course it's not Trump's fault.
Nope, literally nothing ever is to his "enthusiast."
I don’t teach math but I’ve heard of something called a “common denominator”.But what if you had a cult following who told you it was all the students being biased against you?
But you are a big supporter of President Trump.If I were on the team I would be very upset that the rest of team decided to make a political statement by refusing to go. Most Americans should view the players and managers who don't go in a poorer light, I certainly do.
Seems this is a cause for celebration.If I were on the team I would be very upset that the rest of team decided to make a political statement by refusing to go. Most Americans should view the players and managers who don't go in a poorer light, I certainly do.
Most of the Eagles' players refused to go following their SB win, yet there was never a bad word coming from the locker room last year. Nothing but unity and love for one another.If I were on the team I would be very upset that the rest of team decided to make a political statement by refusing to go. Most Americans should view the players and managers who don't go in a poorer light, I certainly do.
This isn't even close to the same thing and you know it. Trump is not a racist and has nothing against blacks or hispanics.But you are a big supporter of President Trump.
Let me offer you an awful nightmare fantasy: let's suppose Louis Farrakhan joined the Democratic Party tomorrow and campaigned for President. Somehow he wins the nomination. Somehow he wins the Presidency. As President, he continues to attack Jews and white people as "devils". Would you mind if white and Jewish athletes refused to meet with him? Would it bother you if black athletes DID meet with him, and expressed their support?
Could you imagine if somebody like the Vice President went to an NFL game (funded by taxpayers to the tune of $300K) and then walked out of the game to make a political statement?If I were on the team I would be very upset that the rest of team decided to make a political statement by refusing to go. Most Americans should view the players and managers who don't go in a poorer light, I certainly do.
I guarantee players felt the way I did but didn't state it publicly for understandable reasons. I am on a public message board so I feel comfortable speaking the truth.Most of the Eagles' players refused to go following their SB win, yet there was never a bad word coming from the locker room last year. Nothing but unity and love for one another.
Rather than argue the point, let me ask: do you deny the fact that many blacks and Hispanics absolutely believe that Trump is bigoted against them?This isn't even close to the same thing and you know it. Trump is not a racist and has nothing against blacks or hispanics.
Once again, stay down, you are losing on points....badlyI never said respecting him. Go back and read what I wrote Mr. Teacher.
There are also people who believe in BigfootRather than argue the point, let me ask: do you deny the fact that many blacks and Hispanics absolutely believe that Trump is bigoted against them?
If they felt it, it wasn't a dividing issue.I guarantee players felt the way I did but didn't state it publicly for understandable reasons. I am on a public message board so I feel comfortable speaking the truth.Most of the Eagles' players refused to go following their SB win, yet there was never a bad word coming from the locker room last year. Nothing but unity and love for one another.
No, you can hate Trump but still respect the office.Once again, stay down, you are losing on points....badly
57% of Americans believe Trump is a racist. Nearly 90% of blacks believe Trump is a racist.Trump is not a racist and has nothing against blacks or hispanics.
I'm not looking to be offended.WTF does someone care about this one way or the other?
You guys are just looking for things to be offended about. Good Grief!