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I thought it was great. I learned a few things. Despite having the douchy punchable face Carr seems like. cool guy. Some undrafted rookie on a show I barely heard of got his ### cut because according to him "No one told him he HAD TO GO TO TREATMENT For AN INJUry" so he got canned. The Safety they drafted the convo he had with Grudden telling him to stop trying to lay the lumber on his own guys was funny. John Madden looks really bad these days. Chucky is already in Mid Season Form. If anyone has yet to read his autobiography that came out when he was with TB I suggest doing so. I loved the insight he gave. Some of it is still true today. Having been an Eagles fan I found out what the highlighted stuff on the play sheets were among other stuff.
Because Gruden is smart and knows that if you even look at a player wrong let alone say something that might "offend" the player he's running to his agent or the team owner about it. The Rookie Is lucky this isn't prime Gruden Raiders in the early 2000s.
I imagine this first episode was filmed before the cryo news came out. I expect it to be a thing on the next episode.
Wow. If you think he looked bad in that 7-man-sled scene, realize that clip was from 2000! He’s 19 years OLDER now. He’s looking really feeble these days :(
The new wave of safety appears to be the old way of WR divas. Jamal Adams is annoying too.
Richie was exactly like that in Buffalo, his teammates loved him and he was well spoken and great insightful answers in the media. He made a couple pro bowls. One off season, he just went off the rails probably because he wasn’t around a structured setting with teammates.
Maybe though I don't that rookie safety seemed like the type to whine and cry about some tough treatment. If I am a Raiders fan, I am slightly worried Gruden doesn't have his whole heart in this and just simply couldn't pass up $100 milliion. I think the team looks like they are going to be pretty bad. And yes it was a 50 minute edited show for entertainment so I know that is ridiculous but that's partly what we are supposed to do with the show- make wild speculations.
Maybe it's just me but his interactions with the rookie and AB made me think he really doesn't command the respect he used to or needs to.
as a Raider fan, I'm GLAD it was a little uneventful (what you call "boring").
Absolutely EVERTHING concerning AB is a circus. He can't blow his nose without some kind of drama or mystery ensuing
He seemed like such a different person on Buffalo than he was on the Dolphins, and looked like a great guy on camera...but you know (thanks to repeated document history) that he could go so far off the rails that it's hard to trust that it was only about the right structure, and that how he was on the Bills won't turn in to how he was on the Dolphins, or how he was in that funeral home, etc. at a moment's notice.
Per your exact point, @Ilov80s, we see what HBO wants us to see for entertainment, and I get that we can only form opinion based on what we are allowed to see.
Couldn't agree more. I'm a bigtime junkie of the show and always look forward to it every year. Have to admit, I was a bit dissapointed in the first episode tho. I'm a big Gruden fan and was hoping he'd be a bit more "Grudenlike" if you know what I mean. Maybe my expectations were too high as Gruden to me is as personable and funny as any coach on the planet. However, at least for tonight, there wasn't too much **** going on and other than a few funny lines, it was kind of borefest.
Depends how you see it. I think Gruden is still being cautious seeing what he can still get away with and what he can't. We also don't know how they acted around one another in OTA's and Mini Camp either. We are only getting a sprinkle of what is going onIlov80s said:
Dam I didn't realize that was a clip from 2000. I saw some pics of him lately and man he looks bad
I was hoping the Eagles had signed him to help the LG spot. I don't want to make this the Incognito thread but I think the main stream media especially reporters who were never around the game were making conclusions off of personal opinion about him and other things. I'll admit some of the stuff there was bad but Martin never went about it the right way either. You don't air laundry to the public and you don't run crying to your parents who are both lawyers. For me very telling when many players stood up and defended Incognito and not Martin. Despite some of the stuff I agree went too Far Martin never seemed to have the mental toughness to be in the game and him getting hurt didn't help. MIA though was a ####show then so it's hard to put total blame on either player there. I think in a better team setting Richie Incognito is not a problem. Martin would've been weeded out from the league sooner or later too. It was just a bad combination to have with that environment and was a powder keg ready to explode. The sad part is just how emotional the non football crowd got over it. I've been in locker rooms with my team in HS and even been in my Cousins college locker room. My PE Teacher in HS and he's also the football coach wen to Univ of Tenn played with COnridge Halloway went on to play O-line for the Jets before blowing his knee. Some of the stuff I heard from him about those locker rooms and what I heard makes Richie look like a saint.
Too many people like the "Jersey Shore " aspect to these shows as I like to call them. I personally hate them and why I don't watch many hard knocks episodes but was intrigued as I've always had a soft spot for Oakland going back to the late 90s Chucky days with Gannon, Woodson, Brown, Eric Allen Etc. Most of the Jersey shore drama is always scripted not really real and just made for TV entertainment. Shows like JS and Duck Dynasty got exposed awhile back for not being "reality" TV and a lot of it scripted. I hate that type of show. I really enjoyed this first episode as I can do without the drama. Though I will admit I was disappointed I didn't get any AB diva moments yet.
