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This really is sociopolitical. I guess those so clownishly wrong and personal about it are really just in service of the good, so let's ignore truth.Should we bump the toxic masculinity thread too while we're at it?
This really is sociopolitical. I guess those so clownishly wrong and personal about it are really just in service of the good, so let's ignore truth.Should we bump the toxic masculinity thread too while we're at it?
she is making $1.5m a year in the WWE right now.She doing pron yet?
Not too far a cry from the UFC, really, in its execution.she is making $1.5m a year in the WWE right now.
Geeze - I feel really bad, as I once lost to a female in mma - an ex-ballet dancer - she went all Sugar Plum Fairy on my ###!!!I believe I would not be destroyed by her. In fact I believe I would beat her handily. Now Nick Mangold''s sister Holly, she might be a different story.She's destroy every single person on this board (maybe except for matsuki who could throw a casual hook and knock her into the next galaxy)
She stuck in her thumb and pulled out a plum?Geeze - I feel really bad, as I once lost to a female in mma - an ex-ballet dancer - she went all Sugar Plum Fairy on my ###!!!
Yeah, but that would have been true had she beaten Holm, too. Seems unrelated ... unless you're implying that the Holm loss kind of made Rousey feel like the sport had caught up with her and it was time to bow out.She’s probably getting paid more and living an easier life doing movies and WWE.Wasn’t one of the arguments here that Rousey would beat Roy Jones Jr. in the octagon with MMA rules?
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Side note: Why did Rousey simply disappear after the Holly Holm match? Wasn’t Rousey still a top female MMA fighter? Didn’t she still have a future in the sport?
In ten years of Judo training and decades of Aikido practice I have known countless women who are more skilled than I ever was or will be. That said I have never encountered a woman in my life who is as strong as I am though they do exist. Ms. Rousey, not nearly so. Still, I am getting old, I have an artificial knee, my pelvis bolted together and plates and screws holding together my radius and ulna in my right forearm. Best I do not put this old machine to a serious stress test.Geeze - I feel really bad, as I once lost to a female in mma - an ex-ballet dancer - she went all Sugar Plum Fairy on my ###!!!
That, and a piece a my still beat'n heart!She stuck in her thumb and pulled out a plum?
Any ballet dancer who gets me in a submission hold and gives me the shocker is naturally going to come away with all of my heart.That, and a piece a my still beat'n heart!
Holy Holm was not her last MMA fight, FWIW. Amanda Nunes effectively retired Rousey in her next fight.Yeah, but that would have been true had she beaten Holm, too. Seems unrelated ... unless you're implying that the Holm loss kind of made Rousey feel like the sport had caught up with her and it was time to bow out.
Yeah - I'm with ya.In ten years of Judo training and decades of Aikido practice I have known countless women who are more skilled than I ever was or will be. That said I have never encountered a woman in my life who is as strong as I am though they do exist. Ms. Rousey, not nearly so. Still, I am getting old, I have an artificial knee, my pelvis bolted together and plates and screws holding together my radius and ulna in my right forearm. Best I do not put this old machine to a serious stress test.
I now wish I had gone Aikido - great art imo.decades of Aikido practice
She got her ### beat. I am sure MMA is a lot more fun when you are submitting your opponent in 30 seconds. She had her run, left a permanent legacy on MMA and it seemed like a good time to move. Also, perhaps part of her loss to Helm was that she had already somewhat moved on mentally. Like is often said in combat sports, if you are thinking about retiring that means it is time to retire since the margin for error is so thin and the stakes so high.Yeah, but that would have been true had she beaten Holm, too. Seems unrelated ... unless you're implying that the Holm loss kind of made Rousey feel like the sport had caught up with her and it was time to bow out.
Many of the same principles but extended outward. Instead of seeking fulcrum points on your hips or shoulders we use wrists and elbows (and sometimes your head, usually through your jaw) to influence a similar disruption of balance. We seek to have you move out over your own hips rather than for us to pin them and pull you over them. It is more thought than physical. Still, my favorite Aikidoist is the road runner. When force is brought to bear he is simply not in its path when it arrives.I now wish I had gone Aikido - great art imo.
Yeah thnx - really great breakdown.Many of the same principles but extended outward. Instead of seeking fulcrum points on your hips or shoulders we use wrists and elbows (and sometimes your head, usually through your jaw) to influence a similar disruption of balance. We seek to have you move out over your own hips rather than for us to pin them and pull you over them. It is more thought than physical. Still, my favorite Aikidoist is the road runner. When force is brought to bear he is simply not in its path when it arrives.
They are the same, only not. take judo, add in some sword principles, step out to those depths, engage primarily the wrist, and proceed with judo principles. At such distance the circular flow of judo becomes much more evident. Circles within circles my friend.Yeah thnx - really great breakdown.
I always most hated fighting against BJJ and Aikido.
Later on, I focused most on bagua - finally quitting all forms of actual fighting/sparring. I have not sparred since 2007.
I still walk the circle and do some other internal work - it's all about my health now - mental & physical.
Once I get healthier, I plan to increase my external work.
To be honest tho, I really hate the distinctions made between the two. The more I learn, the more the same they seem. Maybe that's the point tho.
I dunno - I'm a dabbler - not an expert.
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Aikido is the least effective form of self defense one can study for hours in/spent verses ability returned for actual defense in a combat situation. It is the most intellectual and emotionally satisfying, and at a certain level of proficiency, very difficult to obtain, maybe among the best self defense methods. It is, in my experience, most peoples second form, and for good and practical reasons. Bunch of folks dancing around each other in circles pretending to do throws where folks are clearly rolling out early. That can't be effective.I did Tae Kwon Do and Hapkido when younger. I would love to get back into Hapkido. TKD not so much. It's much more about show and while I can still execute an axe kick and could probably do half ### version of some of the flying kicks, it just seems absurd at this point since I would never use them in a real self defense scenario. Aikido sounds interesting. I should really look around my area and see about taking a couple classes again.
Cool - tho, I never did much w/sword - beyond a few forms. I liked the staff.They are the same, only not. take judo, add in some sword principles, step out to those depths, engage primarily the wrist, and proceed with judo principles. At such distance the circular flow of judo becomes much more evident. Circles within circles my friend.
Gotcha, that is good to know.Aikido is the least effective form of self defense one can study for hours in verses ability returned for actual defense in a combat situation. It is the most intellectual and emotionally satisfying, and at a certain level of proficiency, very difficult to obtain, maybe among the best self defense methods. It is, in my experience, most peoples second form, and for good and practical reasons. Bunch of folks dancing around each other in circles pretending to do throws where folks are clearly rolling out early. That can't be effective.
Similar footwork principles and similar principles as to engagement points. If you picture both parties engaged you can then readily imagine how we get to a wrist.Cool - tho, I never did much w/sword - beyond a few forms. I liked the staff.
Do we have any ma thread here? That you know of?
I love this topic, but don't wanna kill rock's thread.
Oh - one final note on my loss to the Sugar Plum Fairy...
...we allowed groin strikes - this really ain't fair imo
Thanks man, but I am actually looking for practicing ma - as - sadly - I am not really a fan anymore of the sport side of it.
You used to instruct, iirc --- ya still doin' that, DW?Similar footwork principles and similar principles as to engagement points. If you picture both parties engaged you can then readily imagine how we get to a wrist.
I agree the the thread is mostly about watching the sport, but there are quite a few posts in there over the years about guys who are actively participating in it. But you would have to dig.Thanks man, but I am actually looking for practicing ma - as - sadly - I am not really a fan anymore of the sport side of it.
Sincere thanks though.
OH!I agree the the thread is mostly about watching the sport, but there are quite a few posts in there over the years about guys who are actively participating in it. But you would have to dig.
You can always start up a new thread with a specific topic.
I instructed Officers in firearms training and search and seizure law, primarily. I also participated in their hand to hand training in Koga. I have never instructed in Judo or Aikido. (well I have warmed the groups up and gone over a few things until Sensei arrived.) I am still a beginner in both after 10 years and 25 years. I no longer instruct officers except as a visiting lecturer. In my dotage I am handling Procurement, purchasing and contracting, except when thy need me desperately.You used to instruct, iirc --- ya still doin' that, DW?
This is very easy to prove and doesn't really leave any room for discussion. When you are strictly dealing with times that nobody else can influence it really is a pointless discussion.There are no women who can hang with a man in the same athletic event at the same stage of a career.
High school boys would destroy World Class women in all track events.
Ok there alpha.This really is sociopolitical. I guess those so clownishly wrong and personal about it are really just in service of the good, so let's ignore truth.
As an omega ...Ok there alpha.This really is sociopolitical. I guess those so clownishly wrong and personal about it are really just in service of the good, so let's ignore truth.
Did they? I scanned back through and saw I am the one that mentioned JJ Watt and Blake Griffin. I am not reading through that mess (I just checked to have assurance I had not embarrassed myself) but I brought up that I understand skill can beat size but there has to be a threshold somewhere. Did someone actually respond thinking a 130 pound women could take out a 290 pound DE?People thought she could take down JJ Watt
Yeah. I remember better now. Thnx.I instructed Officers in firearms training and search and seizure law, primarily. I also participated in their hand to hand training in Koga. I have never instructed in Judo or Aikido. (well I have warmed the groups up and gone over a few things until Sensei arrived.) I am still a beginner in both after 10 years and 25 years. I no longer instruct officers except as a visiting lecturer. In my dotage I am handling Procurement, purchasing and contracting, except when thy need me desperately.
There's an old thread probably dusty in the archives. where I got into jiujitsu back in 2008/2009. GB @Clayton Gray is a pretty legit grappler these days from what I gather. He started shortly after I did, but unlike me he didn't stop after a back injury a couple years in, and he's got to be 8 or 10 years deep into it by now. @moleculo was active at one point. @kutta too. few others as well.Thanks man, but I am actually looking for practicing ma - as - sadly - I am not really a fan anymore of the sport side of it.
Sincere thanks though.
I thought there was a pole thread at one time that had 4 optionsDid they? I scanned back through and saw I am the one that mentioned JJ Watt and Blake Griffin. I am not reading through that mess (I just checked to have assurance I had not embarrassed myself) but I brought up that I understand skill can beat size but there has to be a threshold somewhere. Did someone actually respond thinking a 130 pound women could take out a 290 pound DE?
That is amazing. Ron Artest is like 6'7" and 280 pounds of pure muscle. LOLI thought there was a pole thread at one time that had 4 options
i want to say Floyd Meriwether, JJ, Ron Artest and one other. I’ll see if I can find it
We all didDid they? I scanned back through and saw I am the one that mentioned JJ Watt and Blake Griffin. I am not reading through that mess (I just checked to have assurance I had not embarrassed myself) but I brought up that I understand skill can beat size but there has to be a threshold somewhere. Did someone actually respond thinking a 130 pound women could take out a 290 pound DE?
I was really into Muay Thai for about five years and switched over to boxing for a couple years because I realized I really liked punching and it was easier on these old hips to not throw 200 kicks a day.There's an old thread probably dusty in the archives. where I got into jiujitsu back in 2008/2009. GB @Clayton Gray is a pretty legit grappler these days from what I gather. He started shortly after I did, but unlike me he didn't stop after a back injury a couple years in, and he's got to be 8 or 10 years deep into it by now. @moleculo was active at one point. @kutta too. few others as well.
I too have been out of the game for too long. Started a new job, working long hours, and my jits have fallen by the wayside. I need to get back.AhrnCityPahnder said:There's an old thread probably dusty in the archives. where I got into jiujitsu back in 2008/2009. GB @Clayton Gray is a pretty legit grappler these days from what I gather. He started shortly after I did, but unlike me he didn't stop after a back injury a couple years in, and he's got to be 8 or 10 years deep into it by now. @moleculo was active at one point. @kutta too. few others as well.
So you are saying male dominance in track is so remarkable HS boys are FAR superior to any female, but......we see something different in the MMA? No we don't, and there really is no debate at all.This is very easy to prove and doesn't really leave any room for discussion. When you are strictly dealing with times that nobody else can influence it really is a pointless discussion.
At least the MMA/fighter discussion could have some differing opinions that could lead to discussions.
Do you really think a 138 pound woman could beat any athletic man in a fight? I don't.RR would destroy most non-mma males easily.
No. I am saying there is no debate for track because it is strictly fact based. Check the time each person runs the race. You cannot argue anything about it. High School Boy runs race in X minutes. World Class woman runs same race in X+2 minutes. There is no debating who is faster.So you are saying male dominance in track is so remarkable HS boys are FAR superior to any female, but......we see something different in the MMA? No we don't, and there really is no debate at all.
Imagine a female basketball team vs men. Hell, women play soft ball.
Any male MMA fighter would destroy any female fighter.
Are you saying we really have a debate about pro male fighters vs female pro fighters? I see no debate at all.No. I am saying there is no debate for track because it is strictly fact based. Check the time each person runs the race. You cannot argue anything about it. High School Boy runs race in X minutes. World Class woman runs same race in X+2 minutes. There is no debating who is faster.