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2019 College football thread - It's 2020, yo. Go to the new thread. (8 Viewers)
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Moe.
Footballguy
A little shetland pony or something should be enough, maybe a greyhound or two. OU isn't that great.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Pre-BCS (all games played on New Year's Day):
Sugar: LSU v Clemson
Orange: Georgia v [highest at-large]
Cotton: Oklahoma v Alabama
Rose: Ohio St. v Oregon/Utah
With luck, we'd have a split national championship and have something to argue about for years to come.
gump
Footballguy
No chance this year. In Spring who knows...Mac will be the returning Senior, Taulia will have another year, and a very highly touted QB from Cali will arrive in January. Taulia had a lot of interest from LSU too, so some are predicting a transfer. He's definitely not at his brother's level though.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but a majority of the games over the last few years have been closer than expected.
Capella
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Absolutely true.
Just rewinding the tape a few decades ... I wonder why sitting out bowl games wasn't a thing back in the 1980s and 1990s? There were certainly plenty of guys with NFL futures playing in meaningless bowl games. For instance, was there a good reason, in retrospect for Barry Sanders to play in the 1988 Holiday Bowl? To stay in long enough to amass 222 yards and 5 TDs in a 62-14 rout? That almost certainly wouldn't happen today.
I know that in absolute terms, the money is bigger today. But still ... $500 K a year set you up very nicely 30 years ago.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Because back then, men were men and the idea of bailing on your team was unconscionable. Players bought into the idea of TEAM first.
And, the bowl games meant more back then too. They are meaningless today unless they are the final four. It's sad, but it's the truth.
Doug B
Footballguy
There seems to be a balance somewhere. Would NFL teams hold it against a Top-5 draft prospect who purposefully sat out their last college season? Let's say Tua Tagovailoa withdrew from Alabama after this past spring semester. He announces that he will go to Nike headquarters (or wherever) and train privately to prepare for the 2020 NFL Draft.
Does the NFL go along? Or does the league collectively play the "He's been away from the game too long" card at the 2020 Draft and thus cause Tua to fall far enough to have made the decision to skip college ball in 2019 not worth it?
Capella
Footballguy
They don’t care at all. He had enough tape to be fine. If they have enough tape on you they’d probably prefer you don’t play.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
NFLPA president Eric Winston applauds the moves by Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey as smart financial decisions.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Yep. If this keeps up, Penn State will make a better rival for Ohio State than Michigan.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
It's not sad at all.
What's sad is the highest level of college football is the only level of football anywhere without a decent playoff.... and that is because of the bowls. #### the bowls!
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Top College Football Players Of All Time:
The gap between #1 and #2 WOW.
Rank Player No. 1 votes Total points
1 Herschel Walker, RB, Georgia 31 455
2 Tim Tebow, QB, Florida 8 286
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/cfb-150-georgia-herschel-walker-sporting-news-top-college-football-player-all-time/1ax03yb8b23me1urn4xzqkdays
The gap between #1 and #2 WOW.
Rank Player No. 1 votes Total points
1 Herschel Walker, RB, Georgia 31 455
2 Tim Tebow, QB, Florida 8 286
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/cfb-150-georgia-herschel-walker-sporting-news-top-college-football-player-all-time/1ax03yb8b23me1urn4xzqkdays
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
I’m kind of surprised Bo Jackson didn’t get any first place votes.
Plus, Ki-Jana Carter is ranked higher than OJ.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
So do Wisconsin, Purdue, and Michigan State. And Iowa and Illinois have as many as MIchigan.We do have more wins against you this century than Michigan.
But Penn State is leading the pack. Probably does deserve to be OSU biggest rival in the eyes of graduating high school seniors.
L5UT1ger
Footballguy
L5UT1ger
Footballguy
It sure seems that way, unless you are so much better than other teams its crazy. I find the defenses today, especially those from teams with dominate offenses, worry more about creating turnovers than 3 and outs. Thus, they take risks. This makes sense to me to play that style of defense coupled with a dominate offense. If you have a dominate offense, the worst thing for your defense to be would be a bend but dont break style because you end up gassed and useless by the 4th. Plus, if you have a lead and a dominate offense, the other team will have to take more risks on Offense. Thinking Saints 2006. etc. There has to be a mental element to it as well. Regardless, I hate the way LSU is playing defense.
A radio host in BR who is generally an idiot said something funny this week:
"Things i never thought i'd see in my lifetime"
Homecoming Kings
A plant based whopper sandwich
A white boy rushing for 200 on the tigers
Moe.
Footballguy
Regarding that point about having both an elite offense and defense at the same time - I was thinking about this thread as I read the weekly OU mailbag on The Athletic earlier this week. I will just paste it here, but I strongly believe that some of these ridiculous offenses need to place more value on possessing the ball, particularly early in the game. I can't tell you how many times OU has jumped out to a multi-score lead early in a game, and if they were a "normal" team you'd feel good about their chances, but it's basically meaningless when they are up 14 or 17 at half. The semis against UGA comes to mind immediately as a good example, as well as the loss to KState this year and the should-have-been-loss to ISU a few weeks ago. Anyways, here's the Q&A.
The second-half defense was stifling, no doubt. But it was the 12- and 13-play, grinding offensive drives that kept the defense fresh and Baylor’s offense off the field. Should this be the new prescription for the Sooners? With Lamb in the lineup, third and fourth downs are almost gimmes. — James S.
Do you think Riley finally woke up to the benefits of long offensive possessions? I almost feel like when the defense got out there, it was so hyped-up because it had been sitting so long. It’ll be interesting to see what our offense looks like this week against TCU. — Blaise N.
These questions are similar, so I’m going to answer them together. The Sooners’ 41:11 time of possession was their largest — by far — of the 2019 season. They hadn’t held the ball for more than 30 minutes in any game since UCLA in mid-September.
This subject so intrigued me that I spent lots of time digging through old OU media guides to discover this: Saturday in Waco was the first time Oklahoma has possessed the ball for at least 40 minutes since Oct. 22, 2005, when OU beat Baylor 37-30 at home in overtime.
The closest OU has come to 40 minutes of possession time since then was in 2016, when the Sooners held the ball for 39:54 in a win at West Virginia. Other than those two games, though, Oklahoma hasn’t even hit the 38:00 mark.
Crazy stuff. Oklahoma’s offense through the years — and especially since Riley’s arrival — has been so good that it can score quickly and not need to take up a ton of time. Obviously at Baylor, it was beneficial to be able to do that. It was beneficial for the offense because it was able to wear down Baylor’s defense and for OU’s defense, which got plenty of time to rest.
I do wonder if this was a one-off thing and everything will go back to normal once the Sooners have Lamb again. But, hey, at the very least, OU showed it is capable of putting together long, clock-draining drives if it needs to do so, and against good defenses to boot.
The second-half defense was stifling, no doubt. But it was the 12- and 13-play, grinding offensive drives that kept the defense fresh and Baylor’s offense off the field. Should this be the new prescription for the Sooners? With Lamb in the lineup, third and fourth downs are almost gimmes. — James S.
Do you think Riley finally woke up to the benefits of long offensive possessions? I almost feel like when the defense got out there, it was so hyped-up because it had been sitting so long. It’ll be interesting to see what our offense looks like this week against TCU. — Blaise N.
These questions are similar, so I’m going to answer them together. The Sooners’ 41:11 time of possession was their largest — by far — of the 2019 season. They hadn’t held the ball for more than 30 minutes in any game since UCLA in mid-September.
This subject so intrigued me that I spent lots of time digging through old OU media guides to discover this: Saturday in Waco was the first time Oklahoma has possessed the ball for at least 40 minutes since Oct. 22, 2005, when OU beat Baylor 37-30 at home in overtime.
The closest OU has come to 40 minutes of possession time since then was in 2016, when the Sooners held the ball for 39:54 in a win at West Virginia. Other than those two games, though, Oklahoma hasn’t even hit the 38:00 mark.
Crazy stuff. Oklahoma’s offense through the years — and especially since Riley’s arrival — has been so good that it can score quickly and not need to take up a ton of time. Obviously at Baylor, it was beneficial to be able to do that. It was beneficial for the offense because it was able to wear down Baylor’s defense and for OU’s defense, which got plenty of time to rest.
I do wonder if this was a one-off thing and everything will go back to normal once the Sooners have Lamb again. But, hey, at the very least, OU showed it is capable of putting together long, clock-draining drives if it needs to do so, and against good defenses to boot.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
bigmarc27
Footballguy
The other game we played was fun too. Sammy Watkins just destroyed them - 16 catches for 227 and a pair of TDs.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
In The Zone
Footballguy
jplvr
Footballguy
I think there's a chance both Mac and Lia will transfer, assuming Young is as good as reported right out of the gates. I wouldn't think so without seeing such talk from people, and I'm surprised the kind of people saying so... they aren't the kind of people who say that kind of stuff about a kid who hasn't even finished his Senior year. One of them brought up the transfers too. Shocked me and will shock a bunch of people too.
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I want to reiterate I wasn't arguing for OU, just that I think it will (may?) happen in the end. I really don't care who makes it in since I consider Bama out without Tua. Also... again, the thing I hate about the committee is their consistency. Seems like every week they move teams in and out of the 4-6 spots without much deference to their previous rankings, which is one of the main reasons I favored the BCS formula. I don't think you can put a lot of stock in what they're saying today or even next week.
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gump
Footballguy
His competition level and football IQ are really high...and Saban now has shown he’ll play the young QB.
Jayded
Footballguy
Please God let this be true. It'd probably be good for both sides to put an end to things.
https://thespun.com/acc/florida-state/florida-state-coaching-search-brian-kelly-interest
https://thespun.com/acc/florida-state/florida-state-coaching-search-brian-kelly-interest
gump
Footballguy
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Politician Spock
Footballguy
Meh.
OSU is undefeated against Alabama this century. That's all that really matters.
gump
Footballguy
Mac (I’m wrong) is a redshirt Soph...2 more years not 1..you’re right will almost definitely leave unless he lights up this finish.
The QB cycle now for the top programs...either land a star 18-yr-old or land a star transfer.
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Capella
Footballguy
I’d take him. Guy made a playoff with freaking Notre Dame. You can’t recruit there. He’d have a chance to win one at FSU.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Jesus that A&M schedule:
Clemson, Bama, Auburn, UGA, LSU
Clemson, Bama, Auburn, UGA, LSU
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Tua Tagovailoa had no injury insurance for NFL Draft.
When Tua Tagovailoa went down with a season-ending hip injury, the NFL Draft questions immediately started popping up of where he’d be selected should he enter.
A team will almost certainly take a chance on the Crimson Tide quarterback at some spot in the draft should he choose to enter, but Tagovailoa will pay a price if he falls.
According to Darren Rovell of the Action Network, the insurance provided to him by the University of Alabama did not include a loss-of-value policy.
This means that he would not be able to recoup millions of dollars should he fall from the possible No. 1 overall selection to the mid-to-late first round.
Sources tell Rovell that Tagovailoa only chose to take the coverage that the university gave him. His coverage entitles him to collect if doctors rule he can never play again, as the school purchased permanent total disability insurance for the quarterback. Rovell notes that Tagovailoa taking the school’s policy did not prohibit him to taking loss-of-value insurance out of his own pocket.
When Tua Tagovailoa went down with a season-ending hip injury, the NFL Draft questions immediately started popping up of where he’d be selected should he enter.
A team will almost certainly take a chance on the Crimson Tide quarterback at some spot in the draft should he choose to enter, but Tagovailoa will pay a price if he falls.
According to Darren Rovell of the Action Network, the insurance provided to him by the University of Alabama did not include a loss-of-value policy.
This means that he would not be able to recoup millions of dollars should he fall from the possible No. 1 overall selection to the mid-to-late first round.
Sources tell Rovell that Tagovailoa only chose to take the coverage that the university gave him. His coverage entitles him to collect if doctors rule he can never play again, as the school purchased permanent total disability insurance for the quarterback. Rovell notes that Tagovailoa taking the school’s policy did not prohibit him to taking loss-of-value insurance out of his own pocket.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I don't listen to Finebaum at all but Oregon fans aren't happy with him as he is going off on Mullens being the committee chair and from Oregon. Basically he is already complaining that the only reason Oregon might get in over Alabama is because of Mullens. 
Typical SEC honk I know. Still very good chance Oregon or Alabama loses a game in regular season anyways so way premature.
Typical SEC honk I know. Still very good chance Oregon or Alabama loses a game in regular season anyways so way premature.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Texas A&M was in the Big 12 from 1996 to 2011.
In those 16 seasons, there were four Big 12 teams that lost 4 or more games at least 15 times...
Kansas
Baylor Iowa
State ...and
Texas A&M
General Malaise
Footballguy
Sounds like you DO listen to Finebaum.I don't listen to Finebaum at all but Oregon fans aren't happy with him as he is going off on Mullens being the committee chair and from Oregon. Basically he is already complaining that the only reason Oregon might get in over Alabama is because of Mullens.
Typical SEC honk I know. Still very good chance Oregon or Alabama loses a game in regular season anyways so way premature.
Whacky AM DJs are irrelevant in this. Not sure why you'd even bring it up. Saying Oregon fans "aren't happy with him" makes Oregon fans look dumb. I don't know a single Oregon fan who cares what Finebaum says and I live here. Where are you getting your information?
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Tell them GM said "relax, nerds".
Paul Finebaum!
What does Don Imus have to say? Tom Lykes? Can we get Ferrell on the Bench to weigh in here? What is the Fabulous Sports Babe saying?
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Ummm...Paul Finebaum has a sports talk show on Sirius and I think Insaw him on ESPN so he is relavant. My point is he is off his rocker and a straight SEC homer.Tell them GM said "relax, nerds".
Paul Finebaum!
What does Don Imus have to say? Tom Lykes? Can we get Ferrell on the Bench to weigh in here? What is the Fabulous Sports Babe saying?
Tom Lykes?
Does he still have a show?
gump
Footballguy
Lots of conflicting info out there...but the consistent story is Alabama pays as much as anyone to a pool that pays 'policies'. It covers a wide variety of expenses...but not 'loss of value'. Schools typically don't cover that. Alabama would pay a ton if they covered every year for every potential high pick. The player and family are usually responsible, which eventually gets covered with a signing bonus.
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